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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 5/21/2018 5:23:57 PM   
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My focus as the Allied player is to sink Japanese DDs. Without sufficient DDs, the Japanese Navy becomes very easy to kill. You have sunk a heck of a lot of DDs.


I'm curious about this and similar comments above. Speaking from near total ignorance of the Japanese side, I know they have some control over ship building. Can the Japanese player, if he chooses, build more destroyers instead of some of the more glamorous CV and BB types? And if so, would that be a better investment for the Japanese player?


Some of the mods and scen 2 give them more destroyers but in a stock game the faucet turns off and only a few replacements are available. The Japanese produce a lot of newer type DDs in 1945 but they are slow and under gunned. They are not fleet DDs and easy to sink.

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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 5/21/2018 5:47:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		I figure you have killed more DDs than you think. Basically, if a Japanese DD hits a mine 80% of the time it will sink-especially if they are six to eight VP ships in size. I give the edge to you in that last battle and in the overall battle. The losses to each side are fatal to him if he does not meet his objective. I would say the KB probably has little or no AA ammo left either.

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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 5/21/2018 6:32:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		For the IJN to be providing significant 'pucker factor' to the Allied navies in October 1944 is a testament to Obvert's gameplay.

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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 5/21/2018 6:55:50 PM   
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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 5/21/2018 9:29:33 PM   
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Shikuka: The new turn in from Erik begins auspiciously.




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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 5/21/2018 9:35:11 PM   
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Shikuka: A quick look at the map shows that KB is split up and not making flank speed. Good.




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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 5/21/2018 9:39:48 PM   
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Shikuka: Moosbrugger's Fletcher TF sorties from Shikuka, sinks a few MTBs, then dispatches these two Es.

PT TFs also tangle with MTBs, sinking a few.




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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 5/21/2018 9:45:17 PM   
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Shikuka: Allied minesweepers sortie from Shikuka to aid in the "forcing" of the gaps between the Kurile Islands.






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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 5/21/2018 9:51:42 PM   
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Shikuka: Night bombers score two hits on an ACM at Paramushiro. Each of the Kuriles are strongly garrisoned and probably have shore guns and mines.




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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 5/21/2018 9:58:11 PM   
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Shikuka: Longstreet comes down the hill and approaches the strongly entrenched and fortified enemy MLR.




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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 5/21/2018 10:02:09 PM   
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Shikuka: My night bombers at Toyohara didn't sortie vs. KB, but daytime bombers at Shikuka, set to range three, find a target or more three hexes south. This must be a cripple.

Lots of CAP, including the Randy.




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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 5/21/2018 10:07:57 PM   
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Shikuka: Four or five strike packages get chewed up without attacking, but this one gets through and scores 12 hits on Unryu and two on the escorting DD. Unryu is confirmed sunk.





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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 5/21/2018 10:10:35 PM   
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Shikuka: Two or three more strikes come, this one likely finishes off the damaged DD.




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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 5/21/2018 10:13:26 PM   
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Shikuka: The Liberators miss, but Soryu doesn't seem to be making good speed.





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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 5/21/2018 10:16:06 PM   
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Shikuka: A lot of B-29s employed in airfield suppression. This isn't optimal use but is important and shouldn't last long.




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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 5/21/2018 10:21:02 PM   
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Shikuka: Death Star launches the first of what will be three or four strikes vs. enemy shipping in the Kuriles. All the targets are LSTs, SCs, and the like. Some are carrying troops.





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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 5/21/2018 10:26:37 PM   
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Shikuka: The largest and most effective strike sinks troop transports. SigInt three or four days ago reported a Rocket Gun unit inbound to Onnekotan - perhaps this unit.





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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 5/21/2018 10:50:14 PM   
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Shikuka: As one phase of this campaign winds down, another appears imminent.




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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 5/21/2018 10:56:37 PM   
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Shikuka: Somehow Boston makes it back to Shikuka. She and her Rourke's Drift hospital-bound buddies are disbanded in port. The size-9 port and heavy naval support give them a chance.





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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 5/21/2018 10:58:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		On the day, Erik lost a CV, CL, DD, and a variety of riff-raff.

I think I lost one or two PTs and a crippled APD. That was it.

But digging out Unryu cost a lot of aircraft. Was it worth it?

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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 5/21/2018 11:00:52 PM   
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Shikuka: This time Allied fighter losses are considerable.

I'll pull back my strike aircraft and fighters tomorrow, concentrating on the defense of Shikuka and looking for a way to minimize the chances of DS reacting into peril beyond its capabilities.





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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 5/21/2018 11:33:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Keep in mind that along with the Unryu, the Japanese lost 45 strike planes going down with the ship as reported above. That helps to even out the air losses, although admittedly your guys did pay a heavy price.

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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 5/22/2018 1:06:32 AM   
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Been in and out of this AAR for a while but could use a recap. Seems there are not many big guys afloat. Where are you with Capital ships? What's coming on line and out of the repair yards in the next couple of months? I presume you are at least OK with DD's and get about one a week at this stage of the war
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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 5/22/2018 1:10:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		The Allied naval OBB is in good shape. Death Star - carriers and escorts - is very strong.

Of the damaged CVs, only Lexington remains in port. She needs about three weeks. BB Massachusetts needs four months. CA Cumberland needs a couple of days. Other than that, the yards are empty.

BB Wisconsin is on map and inbound.

Erik's naval OOB is also strong, though not quite as much as it was two weeks ago. He and my predecessors were involved in kind of a false war - not many ships sunk, not many planes downed. Erik has been withdrawing methodically to his inner MLR. He's strong but so are the Allies.

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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 5/22/2018 3:30:20 AM   
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Shikuka: The largest and most effective strike sinks troop transports. SigInt three or four days ago reported a Rocket Gun unit inbound to Onnekotan - perhaps this unit.






That looks like a base force to me, or perhaps an AF Bn. Or a mix of, say, an HQ and an AF Bn. But the 2 xAKL that are doing the transporting (potentially the 2x CM's also, but their capacity is 250/350 Troop/Cargo or thereabouts) tells me it's almost certainly just an AF Bn. Why? Because those are the units that contain: non-combat squads, engineers, and a couple of guns. They do also contain combat squads, but if it was a rebuilt unit it may not have been fully replaced. I wouldn't do it because the micromanagement would be too intense, but theoretically a Japanese player could turn replacements on for AF Bn units (both IJNAF and IJAAF) but then turn on Stockpile for the relevant infantry squad, and then flip those switches back when they want to replace some infantry squads in combat units.

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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 5/22/2018 3:31:11 AM   
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On the day, Erik lost a CV, CL, DD, and a variety of riff-raff.

I think I lost one or two PTs and a crippled APD. That was it.

But digging out Unryu cost a lot of aircraft. Was it worth it?


As the kids say (or said 15 years ago), hell to the yes.

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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 5/22/2018 4:28:43 AM   
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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 5/22/2018 5:51:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Your plane losses can be made up. His carrier no..That pretty much makes it a win for you. Are you using your VR squadrons to replenish your carriers? This would really help you.

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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 5/22/2018 5:55:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		The plane losses were LBA. So no difficulty in drawing replacements.

I'm not using CVEs in replenishment roles on this mission. There are limited circumstances in which I find that useful, but as a general rule I prefer CVEs as additional carriers, especially in CAP roles. When, as here, I'm close to LBA, can readily bring in additional aircraft, and anticipate that any potential clash would be quick and decisive, security takes priority of sustainability - because sustainability isn't a factor.

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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 5/22/2018 6:53:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm not going to castigate you for your tactics, Canoerebel. I always enjoy your AARs and recognize this is a game and you are simply combating Obvert's tactics in equal measure. I do not fault you for it.

Nonetheless, I wonder if the US would have the political willpower and its populace the lenience to allow so many ships and men to be sacrificed in the way they have been in the battles around Shikuka. I have no doubt that the Japanese would have been absolutely willing to sacrifice their men in such a manner. I guess the question would be if the admiral that allowed so many men to die in such a way would have been sacked and court-martialed. Probably a pointless debate about factors outside the game, but something to think about. I wonder if this could be represented by upping the point values of Allied troops, ships and planes.

Now for the game going forward itself, what are your plans going forward once Shikuka is re-consolidated? Will you simply try to do a strat bombing campaign to eke out the VPs for a win? What will you do if Obvert is able to inflict unacceptable casualties on your remaining strat bombers?

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