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RE: Tourney AAR Taxman66 (Allied) vs. IrishGuards (Axis) - 7/4/2018 1:40:00 AM

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His turn prior to last, you'll note he went from 31 land units to 39.
There may be an extra Panzer, I can't keep track that well as I try and write down damage.
I did see a Mech because it took a point of damage around Nancy.

yeah but aren't most of those the free garrison from the Norway invasion?

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RE: Tourney AAR Taxman66 (Allied) vs. IrishGuards (Axis) - 7/4/2018 1:58:55 AM

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yeah, forgot about that.

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RE: Tourney AAR Taxman66 (Allied) vs. IrishGuards (Axis) - 7/4/2018 8:05:08 AM

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apparently i have nay ability 2
post pics .. yet eh' !!
but ger turn french armor came on and died
paris in 1
italy still out
apparently my ger subs gain supply from being beside a neutral
Italy .. in the med
das Uboaten
IG

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RE: Tourney AAR Taxman66 (Allied) vs. IrishGuards (Axis) - 7/4/2018 2:26:18 PM

Taxman66

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That should probably be reported as a bug.

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RE: Tourney AAR Taxman66 (Allied) vs. IrishGuards (Axis) - 7/4/2018 5:15:00 PM

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End of German Turn / Start of Allied Turn June 8, 1940

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RE: Tourney AAR Taxman66 (Allied) vs. IrishGuards (Axis) - 7/4/2018 6:57:21 PM

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Allied Turn June 8, 1940

Previous Axis Turn:
Clear in Europe.

The Germans destroy the screening units in front of Pairs and on the peripheral. The French Fighters, newly reinforced, are destroyed in the air and on the ground (via a 3rd set of paratroopers) without scoring a single hit.
The French Heavy Tanks, A French Army, 2 Corps and a Garrison are also destroyed. The 2 French HQs are damaged but are not destroyed, yet at least.
The B.E.F. in Calais is attacked by a German Corps but is not hurt.
German damage for the turn: 2 Medium Bombers take hits from ground fire, 3 Armies take 1 damage, 3 Corps take 1 damage. The surrounded Corps near Metz is responsible for the damage to 1 GE Army and 2 of the Corps.

Musolini decides now that he wants to join with Germany. AVoiding the French Fleet (presuming Vichy is installed).

Allied Turn
Clear in England. Clear in Europe.

B.E.F. evacuates from Calais.
The 1st French Army in Lille does 2 damage to the German X (str 10) Corps, and takes 1 back.
The 4th French Army holds fast for a last stand in Paris while the rest of the French forces flee in terror, except the XLIV Corps which is still cut off in the Magingot.

The USSR seizes the the remaining Baltic States and Bessarabia.

Italy joins the Axis and declares war on France and the UK

France's 'wasted' diplo chit fires for +20% swing on Yugoslavia. (Why couldn't it have been Spain?)

French Communists continue with Anti-war propoganda. Most everyone is ignoring it as the 'war' is almost over.

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Reports Info

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Sorry, forgot to record the records info before I hit the end of turn button. All information below the Morale table is from last turn.
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USA 31%
USSR 20%

Yugoslavia 38% Axis
Spain 01% Axis

UK 102% Morale
USA 100% Morale
USSR 100% Morale
FR 40% Morale *Before the Commie hit

IT 100% Morale
GE 101% Morale

UK 510 MPP in combat losses
USA 0 MPP in combat losses
USSR 0 MPP in combat losses
FR 3,153 MPP in combat losses

GE 2,094 MPP in combat losses
IT 0 MPP in combat losses

UK 136 MPP lost to Subs/Raiders
USSR 0 MPP lost to Subs/Raiders
GE 156 MPP lost to Subs/Raiders
GE 0 MPP lost to Strategic Bombing (0 Allied damage to bombers)
IT 0 MPP lost to Strategic Bombing

UK 1,415 MPP on Units, 675 MPP on Diplomacy, 400 MPP on Tech
USA 0 MPP on Units, 0 MPP on Diplomacy, 700 MPP on Tech
USSR 0 MPP on Units, 0 MPP on Diplomacy, 200 MPP on Tech
FR 1,070 MPP on Units, 150 MPP on Diplomacy, 0 MPP on Tech

GE 1,373 MPP on Units, 800 MPP on Diplomacy, 550 MPP on Tech
IT 186 MPP on Units, 0 MPP on Diplomacy, 525 MPP on Tech

UK Income: 299 MPP
US Income: 95 MPP (excluding Lend Lease)
USSR Income: 50 MPP (excluding Lend Lease)
FR Income: 115 MPP

GE Income: 340 MPP (estimate)
IT Income: 92 MPP

Total Allied Income: 559 MPP
Total Axis Income: ~ 432 MPP (estimate)

*Note excluding DE costs from Allied Income listed above.

GE 38 Land Units, 9 Air Units, 11 Naval Units
IT 17 Land Units, 2 Air Units, 11 Naval Units

UK 14 Land Units, 4 Air Units, 26 Naval Units
USA 3 Land Units, 1 Air Units
USSR 25 Land Units, 1 Air Units, 3 Naval Units
FR 19 Land Units, 2 Air Units, 9 Naval Units

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RE: Tourney AAR Taxman66 (Allied) vs. IrishGuards (Axis) - 7/4/2018 7:37:00 PM

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June 19 1940
france falls .. minor damage to a few units
plunder 1116
3 uboat finds a trans heading to med 2 damage
ca attacks dd 1 damage ger 3 damage uk
italy 2 dip chits
IG

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RE: Tourney AAR Taxman66 (Allied) vs. IrishGuards (Axis) - 7/5/2018 1:24:24 AM

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Allied Turn June 30, 1940

Previous Axis Turn:
Clear in Europe.

The Wehrmacht mops up all the French units that it can get to. Only the 4th Army in Paris and the 1st Army in Lille put up any kind of useful resistance.
The 4th Army damages 2 Medium bombers, a Tactical bomber and does 1 damage to a German Army.
The 1st Army does 1 damage to a German Army and to 2 Corps. A German escort Fighter engages a UK Fighter* over Lille as well. They damage each other, while the bombers get through unscathed.

A badly damaged U-32 (str 3) finds the B.E.F. Army transports (str 9) and their DD escort (HMS Javelin) to their south. They manage to avoid being surprised and do 2 damage to the transports.
The Deutschland then comes steaming in from the north towards the transports and is intercepted by the DD HMCS Assiniboine protecting them on the northern side. Deutschland takes 1 damage while Assiniboine takes 3.

Germany accepts Petain's surrender and installs Vichy France. The North African and Syrian territories swear allegiance to Vichy.

The UK Morale suffers at the loss of Paris.

Franco is encouraged by Germany's success (+24%), while the USA is shocked (+11%).

Franco begins exporting to Germany.

Allied Turn
Clear in England. Clear in Europe.

British Morale increases a bit at the decision to support De Gaulle and the Free French.**

Aussie and Kiwi troops are rushed to Egypt.

HMS Javelin quickly finds U-32 (str 3) and cripples her for 2 damage.
HMCS Assiniboine sweeps around to the south of Javelin (to avoid the possibly lurking Deutschland) and puts a depth charge under the belly of U-32 breaking the U-boat in half and sending her to the bottom.

It's noted that Germany purchased another Major power Diplo chit. Did he drop another on the USSR, or is this one on the USA?***

The UK reroutes her convoys.

Operation Catapult is launched destroying most of the Vichy navy.

The US begins Lend Lease.

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* A minor mistake, I probably should have grounded the Fighter.

** I struck out and got 0 out of 5 possible units to go Free French.
I wish this was less random and slightly scripted. I also wish Free France was a 'Major Power' with a small income (representing middle Africa and New Caledonia) and a unit or 2.

*** Meaning he must have sold off one of his 2 (presumably) regular chits.
As I've stated before I am not a fan of the way major power diplomacy works in this game.

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Reports Info

USA 42%
USSR 20%

Yugoslavia 38% Axis
Spain 25% Axis
Netherlands 44% Allied

UK 98% Morale
USA 100% Morale
USSR 100% Morale

IT 100% Morale
GE 101% Morale

UK 613 MPP in combat losses
USA 0 MPP in combat losses
USSR 0 MPP in combat losses
FR 5,551 MPP in combat losses

GE 2,694 MPP in combat losses
IT 0 MPP in combat losses

UK 144 MPP lost to Subs/Raiders
USSR 0 MPP lost to Subs/Raiders
GE 212 MPP lost to Subs/Raiders
GE 0 MPP lost to Strategic Bombing (0 Allied damage to bombers)
IT 0 MPP lost to Strategic Bombing

UK 1,996 MPP on Units, 675 MPP on Diplomacy, 400 MPP on Tech
USA 0 MPP on Units, 0 MPP on Diplomacy, 700 MPP on Tech
USSR 0 MPP on Units, 0 MPP on Diplomacy, 200 MPP on Tech
FR 1,114 MPP on Units, 150 MPP on Diplomacy, 0 MPP on Tech

GE 1,540 MPP on Units, 975 MPP on Diplomacy, 725 MPP on Tech
IT 271 MPP on Units, 100 MPP on Diplomacy, 525 MPP on Tech

UK Income: 290 MPP
US Income: 154 MPP (excluding Lend Lease)
USSR Income: 53 MPP (excluding Lend Lease)

GE Income: 425 MPP (estimate)
IT Income: 107 MPP

Total Allied Income: 497 MPP
Total Axis Income: ~ 532 MPP (estimate)

*Note excluding DE costs from Allied Income listed above.

GE 38 Land Units, 9 Air Units, 10 Naval Units
IT 17 Land Units, 2 Air Units, 11 Naval Units

UK 14 Land Units, 4 Air Units, 26 Naval Units
USA 3 Land Units, 1 Air Units
USSR 25 Land Units, 1 Air Units, 3 Naval Units

< Message edited by Taxman66 -- 7/5/2018 2:29:31 AM >

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RE: Tourney AAR Taxman66 (Allied) vs. IrishGuards (Axis) - 7/5/2018 2:35:40 AM

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I agree, major diplomacy is in need of a revisit, which is one of the advantages of tourney play. The use of multiple diplomacy chits in USSR is a direct result of the current German strategy of minimizing all actions that would hasten USSR entry into the war. KZ, did me in brilliantly by using this strategy and in that game I did not put Allied chits into USSR. He ran roughshod over Egypt and GB before needing to turn to USSR. This is why I dumped a ton of French and British chits into my game against Sugar and got to 55% very quickly. It has helped immensely.

Between this strategy and the teleporting air units and troops the game is getting further away from WWII. For example Sugar left virtually all of France, the Netherlands and northern Germany empty in our current game. No reason not to, as he just operates troops, an HQ and air back and blows me up (I did withdraw most of them). It's a game not an historical recreation so this is not all bad, but its not all good.

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RE: Tourney AAR Taxman66 (Allied) vs. IrishGuards (Axis) - 7/5/2018 3:11:47 AM

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I agree with you to a major extent.
There is a price in MPP to moving a force around to do that, but there should be some other kind of limits. I don't know what to do about Sugar's method of defense. Perhaps a constant small raiding force
that threatens and forces him to spend on redeploying and then evacs out before he can hit them. If he operates the units back to the eastern front... then land again, ad nauseam.

As for the Major Power diplo... it just turns the game into Roulette. In this current game, Germany is weakening her Tech advancement but the UK is hurting as much in forces as in Tech.
If he is coming for the British Isle, all I can hope to do is slow him down and build the USSR up (which of course is hard to do with chits being flung there). On the other hand he still might be going for Russia first, given that he took Lithuania. In which case the UK is still hurting in units to defend Egypt because of the Diplo investment.

I don't like it because for each chit that fires it costs the Soviets about 20-25 MPP turn (not to mention delaying when they can declare war themselves). That means only 7-8 turns before the lost MPP makes up for the expense of the Chit. If you factor in the amount of time it takes for the chit to fire then (assuming 10 turn at 5%) then 17-18 turns on average and you still get the full benefit of stalling entry.

However, the roulette factor is in when the chit fires. Since, in this case, he got a chit to fire on the first turn of investment (with a 2 chit investment) that winds up being a HUGE benefit for him. If the chit took 17-20 turns to fire then it probably wasn't worth it.

If I want to play that kind of game I'll go to a casino, I don't need to play a strategy war game for that experience.

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RE: Tourney AAR Taxman66 (Allied) vs. IrishGuards (Axis) - 7/5/2018 8:44:59 AM

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The way London fall is handle is also very important. Game should not end unless UK is Under serious invasion.

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RE: Tourney AAR Taxman66 (Allied) vs. IrishGuards (Axis) - 7/5/2018 5:47:11 PM

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Turn later, maybe tomorrow.

My kid lost control of my car and hit a guard rail.
No one is hurt

, but the car is not drivable.

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RE: Tourney AAR Taxman66 (Allied) vs. IrishGuards (Axis) - 7/5/2018 11:34:36 PM

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Allied Turn July 14, 1940

Previous Axis Turn:
Clear in Europe.

A sub (str 10) runs into HMS Jersey well to the west of Nantes and takes 2 damage.

Deutschland (str 9) finds HMCS Assiniboine (str 7) but only does 1 damage to the Destroyer before moving off. Is Deutschland possibly low on morale or supply or just real unlucky?

An Italian Sub spies at Mersa Matruh and sees O'conner's HQ in the Egyptian Town.

Franco alows use of Some spanish ports.

Allied Turn
Clear in England. Clear in Europe.

HMS Jersey finds the sub she encountered early, nown identified as U-37 (str 8), and engages her doing 2 dmg to the sub and taking 1 back.
HMS Bulldog then shows up to take a shot and forces the sub to dive.
HMS Javelin runs into Deutschland (str 9, supply 1) and takes 2 damage while dishing 1 back.
HMS Hood, Norfolk and Sofolk are then called in to engage Deutschland and sink her at the cost of 1 damage to HMS Hood.

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Reports Info

USA 42%
USSR 20%

Yugoslavia 38% Axis
Spain 25% Axis
Netherlands 44% Allied

UK 94% Morale
USA 100% Morale
USSR 100% Morale

IT 100% Morale
GE 107% Morale

UK 698 MPP in combat losses
USA 0 MPP in combat losses
USSR 0 MPP in combat losses
FR 5,551 MPP in combat losses

GE 2,999 MPP in combat losses
IT 0 MPP in combat losses

UK 144 MPP lost to Subs/Raiders
USSR 0 MPP lost to Subs/Raiders
GE 231 MPP lost to Subs/Raiders
GE 0 MPP lost to Strategic Bombing (0 Allied damage to bombers)
IT 0 MPP lost to Strategic Bombing

UK 2,194 MPP on Units, 675 MPP on Diplomacy, 400 MPP on Tech
USA 0 MPP on Units, 0 MPP on Diplomacy, 900 MPP on Tech
USSR 0 MPP on Units, 0 MPP on Diplomacy, 200 MPP on Tech
FR 1,114 MPP on Units, 150 MPP on Diplomacy, 0 MPP on Tech

GE 2,357 MPP on Units, 975 MPP on Diplomacy, 1,425 MPP on Tech
IT 296 MPP on Units, 100 MPP on Diplomacy, 525 MPP on Tech

UK Income: 290 MPP
US Income: 129 MPP (excluding Lend Lease)
USSR Income: 56 MPP (excluding Lend Lease)

GE Income: 425 MPP (estimate)
IT Income: 107 MPP

Total Allied Income: 475 MPP
Total Axis Income: ~ 532 MPP (estimate)

*Note excluding DE costs from Allied Income listed above.

GE 38 Land Units, 10 Air Units, 9 Naval Units
IT 17 Land Units, 3 Air Units, 11 Naval Units

UK 17 Land Units, 4 Air Units, 27 Naval Units
USA 3 Land Units, 1 Air Units
USSR 25 Land Units, 1 Air Units, 3 Naval Units

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RE: Tourney AAR Taxman66 (Allied) vs. IrishGuards (Axis) - 7/6/2018 12:56:17 AM

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Bombing of London begins !!
some damage to UK ftrs ... 5 off a CV .. 7 or so off 2 ftr units
4 damage to german ftrs
IG

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RE: Tourney AAR Taxman66 (Allied) vs. IrishGuards (Axis) - 7/6/2018 11:39:27 AM

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Bombing of London begins !!
some damage to UK ftrs ... 5 off a CV .. 7 or so off 2 ftr units
4 damage to german ftrs
IG

At tech parity, that sounds like unattached units. For the UK the air war is Montgomery (with Command tech level 2) or bust.

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RE: Tourney AAR Taxman66 (Allied) vs. IrishGuards (Axis) - 7/6/2018 12:15:18 PM

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quote:

At tech parity, that sounds like unattached units. For the UK the air war is Montgomery (with Command tech level 2) or bust.

With so much invested in Diplo so early, I don't have a good handle on the priority of UK unit builds and Tech.

A few other mistakes I've made have compounded the situation.

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RE: Tourney AAR Taxman66 (Allied) vs. IrishGuards (Axis) - 7/6/2018 12:43:30 PM

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It depends on where and when you want to make your stand. UK '40, Egypt-Iraq '41, D-Day '43?

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RE: Tourney AAR Taxman66 (Allied) vs. IrishGuards (Axis) - 7/6/2018 3:38:50 PM

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Allied Turn July 28, 1940

Previous Axis Turn:
Clear in Europe.

Air battles over and near London favor the Luftwaffe. A few hits are scored against the German Fighters, a group of Condors (Maritime Bombers) takes damage from AA fire over London and a
wing of Medium Bombers takes hits from both intercepting Spitfires as well as AA fire. In exchange UK casualties are heavy with 2 wings of Spitfires reduced to half strength as well as the air wing
of HMS Courageous.

More German naval units (presumably subs) are traversing the Gibraltar loop as the German naval count shrinks from 9 to 7. Most likely the 2 subs returning to the Atlantic.

Italy chips in for her own Major Power Diplomacy chit.

So now I'm down 2 active (and 3 overall if you count the one that fired in the fall of 1939).

Allied Turn
Clear in England. Clear in Europe.

Nothing of note to report.

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Reports Info

USA 42%
USSR 20%

Yugoslavia 38% Axis
Spain 25% Axis
Netherlands 44% Allied

UK 93% Morale
USA 100% Morale
USSR 100% Morale

IT 100% Morale
GE 107% Morale

UK 1,052 MPP in combat losses
USA 0 MPP in combat losses
USSR 0 MPP in combat losses
FR 5,551 MPP in combat losses

GE 3,190 MPP in combat losses
IT 0 MPP in combat losses

UK 144 MPP lost to Subs/Raiders
USSR 0 MPP lost to Subs/Raiders
GE 231 MPP lost to Subs/Raiders
GE 0 MPP lost to Strategic Bombing (0 Allied damage to bombers)
IT 0 MPP lost to Strategic Bombing

UK 2,287 MPP on Units, 675 MPP on Diplomacy, 400 MPP on Tech
USA 0 MPP on Units, 0 MPP on Diplomacy, 900 MPP on Tech
USSR 0 MPP on Units, 0 MPP on Diplomacy, 200 MPP on Tech
FR 1,114 MPP on Units, 150 MPP on Diplomacy, 0 MPP on Tech

GE 2,578 MPP on Units, 975 MPP on Diplomacy, 1,425 MPP on Tech
IT 341 MPP on Units, 275 MPP on Diplomacy, 525 MPP on Tech

UK Income: 290 MPP
US Income: 129 MPP (excluding Lend Lease)
USSR Income: 57 MPP (excluding Lend Lease)

GE Income: 450 MPP (estimate)
IT Income: 107 MPP

Total Allied Income: 476 MPP
Total Axis Income: ~ 557 MPP (estimate)

*Note excluding DE costs from Allied Income listed above.

GE 38 Land Units, 10 Air Units, 9 Naval Units
IT 17 Land Units, 3 Air Units, 11 Naval Units

UK 17 Land Units, 4 Air Units, 27 Naval Units
USA 3 Land Units, 1 Air Units
USSR 25 Land Units, 1 Air Units, 3 Naval Units

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RE: Tourney AAR Taxman66 (Allied) vs. IrishGuards (Axis) - 7/6/2018 4:09:21 PM

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Bad weather over london .....
nothing to report
IG

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RE: Tourney AAR Taxman66 (Allied) vs. IrishGuards (Axis) - 7/7/2018 12:04:06 AM

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Allied Turn August 11, 1940

Previous Axis Turn:
?? in England. Clear in Europe.

I'm going to presume it was raining in England, but I didn't see it.

The only thing of note was Germany upgrading the port of St. Nazaire.

Also an Italian Naval unit appears to be using the Gibralter loop.

Allied Turn
Clear in England. Clear in Europe.

Churchill launches an angry rant in Parlement, but again looses the vote. Diplomats in Madrid are seen boarding planes.

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Reports Info

USA 42%
USSR 20%

Yugoslavia 38% Axis
Spain 25% Axis
Netherlands 44% Allied

UK 93% Morale
USA 100% Morale
USSR 100% Morale

IT 100% Morale
GE 107% Morale

UK 1,052 MPP in combat losses
USA 0 MPP in combat losses
USSR 0 MPP in combat losses
FR 5,551 MPP in combat losses

GE 3,190 MPP in combat losses
IT 0 MPP in combat losses

UK 144 MPP lost to Subs/Raiders
USSR 0 MPP lost to Subs/Raiders
GE 231 MPP lost to Subs/Raiders
GE 0 MPP lost to Strategic Bombing (0 Allied damage to bombers)
IT 0 MPP lost to Strategic Bombing

UK 2,364 MPP on Units, 1,025 MPP on Diplomacy, 400 MPP on Tech
USA 0 MPP on Units, 0 MPP on Diplomacy, 1,050 MPP on Tech
USSR 0 MPP on Units, 0 MPP on Diplomacy, 400 MPP on Tech
FR 1,114 MPP on Units, 150 MPP on Diplomacy, 0 MPP on Tech

GE 2,942 MPP on Units, 975 MPP on Diplomacy, 1,425 MPP on Tech
IT 371 MPP on Units, 275 MPP on Diplomacy, 525 MPP on Tech

UK Income: 290 MPP
US Income: 129 MPP (excluding Lend Lease)
USSR Income: 75 MPP (excluding Lend Lease)

GE Income: 450 MPP (estimate)
IT Income: 107 MPP

Total Allied Income: 494 MPP
Total Axis Income: ~ 557 MPP (estimate)

*Note excluding DE costs from Allied Income listed above.

GE 38 Land Units, 10 Air Units, 11 Naval Units
IT 17 Land Units, 3 Air Units, 11 Naval Units

UK 17 Land Units, 4 Air Units, 27 Naval Units
USA 3 Land Units, 1 Air Units
USSR 25 Land Units, 1 Air Units, 3 Naval Units

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RE: Tourney AAR Taxman66 (Allied) vs. IrishGuards (Axis) - 7/7/2018 1:14:59 PM

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Southampton falls .. few damage to med bmrs and mar bmr
no ftr intercepts .. !!
no damage to 3 para ..
USA doesnt like it . !!
IG

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RE: Tourney AAR Taxman66 (Allied) vs. IrishGuards (Axis) - 7/7/2018 10:40:07 PM

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Allied Turn August 25, 1940

Previous Axis Turn:
Clear in England. Clear in Europe.

Bombers attack the Polish Corps in Portsmouth, with AA fire damaging a Maritime Bomber and 2 Medium Bombers.
3 sets of German paratroopers land, and finish off the defending Corps without taking any damage.
A German Panzer is then deployed into the city.

Rosevelt condemns the German landing in England (+13%).
Stalin is yet to be concerned.*

Allied Turn
Clear in England. Clear in Europe.

7th Armour is deployed at Manchester.

Parliment agrees to the USA proposal to swap Carribean bases for Destroyers.**

Top secret emergency plans are made to move the government if the worst should happen.

British Naval command, operating on intelligence from MI6 (which was itself provided by O.S.S.), orders HMS Glorious to strike Scharnhorst in Calais.
Land based Spitfires escort the SWordfish and are intercepted by German Me109s. This time the English come out ahead in the battle:
UK FTR 1 dmg, Glorious Air Wing 1 dmg, GE FTR 3 dmg, Scharnhorst 3 dmg.

HMS Parthian then manages to get close enough to do a further 1 dmg to Scharnhorst before moving near the Isle of Wight.
HMS Salmon joins HMS Parthain and the 2 subs blockade Portsmouth. U-47 is spotted north of Cherbourg.

Another brutal air battle occurs over Portsmouth. This time the Spitfires are escorting Sterling heavy bombers, and run into another air group of Me109s:
UK FTR 3 dmg, UK Hvy Bmbr 2 dmg, GE FTR 4 dmg, Portsmouth 2 dmg (reduced to a 1).

The Sterlings fly another raid, unescorted and encounter a 3rd group of German Fighters. Both take 1 point of damage and Portsmouth is reduced to 0.

The FNFL Triomphant joins the Free French under British command.

Free French and UK forces raid Dakar in operation Menance, but fail in their objective to capture the gold reserves. Tunisia protests the attack.

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*The USSR script didn't fire. Oddly the USSR script says 1-2 units within 1-2 hexes of ...
Does that mean it may/may not fire with only 1 unit within the range?

**I may or may not get them all (or maybe after they will show up later if the Isles are liberated?), but at the least it was a 2% morale increase
and the USA can pretty much send the MPP back via Lend Lease.

Did better than I expected. A bit of luck and a bit of a rest for my pilots goes a pretty long way.
Now I just badly need the famous English weather to show up. If there is another Fall/Winter/Spring of the Luftwaffe flying nearly unhindered the English goose won't be cooked, it will be microwaved dinner'ed.
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Reports Info

USA 55%
USSR 20%

Yugoslavia 38% Axis
Spain 25% Axis
Netherlands 44% Allied

UK 95% Morale
USA 100% Morale
USSR 100% Morale

IT 100% Morale
GE 107% Morale

UK 1,472 MPP in combat losses
USA 0 MPP in combat losses
USSR 0 MPP in combat losses
FR 5,551 MPP in combat losses

GE 3,691 MPP in combat losses
IT 0 MPP in combat losses

UK 144 MPP lost to Subs/Raiders
USSR 0 MPP lost to Subs/Raiders
GE 231 MPP lost to Subs/Raiders
GE 1 MPP lost to Strategic Bombing (35 Allied damage to bombers)
IT 0 MPP lost to Strategic Bombing

UK 2,942 MPP on Units, 1,025 MPP on Diplomacy, 400 MPP on Tech
USA 0 MPP on Units, 0 MPP on Diplomacy, 1,225 MPP on Tech
USSR 0 MPP on Units, 0 MPP on Diplomacy, 600 MPP on Tech
FR 1,114 MPP on Units, 150 MPP on Diplomacy, 0 MPP on Tech

GE 3,025 MPP on Units, 975 MPP on Diplomacy, 1,425 MPP on Tech
IT 371 MPP on Units, 275 MPP on Diplomacy, 625 MPP on Tech

UK Income: 278 MPP
US Income: 212 MPP (excluding Lend Lease)
USSR Income: 75 MPP (excluding Lend Lease)

GE Income: 460 MPP (estimate)
IT Income: 107 MPP

Total Allied Income: 565 MPP
Total Axis Income: ~ 567 MPP (estimate)

*Note excluding DE costs from Allied Income listed above.

GE 38 Land Units, 10 Air Units, 11 Naval Units
IT 17 Land Units, 3 Air Units, 11 Naval Units

UK 22 Land Units, 5 Air Units, 29 Naval Units
USA 3 Land Units, 1 Air Units, 1 Naval Units
USSR 26 Land Units, 1 Air Units, 3 Naval Units

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Sorry, I forgot to take a picture.
There is a Panzer in Plymouth and 3 Paras around it (1 to the NW, 1 to NE, and 1 to SE)
2 UK subs are blockading the port (which should drop from level 2 to level 1), and the city of Plymouth itself is at level 0 at the end of my turn.
There is also a GE Sub north Cherbourg, 3 GE FTRs south of Normandy, and Scharnhorst (str 6) in Calais.
A UK Corps in Bristol and London, a UK GAR in Oxford, Dover and NW of London.

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RE: Tourney AAR Taxman66 (Allied) vs. IrishGuards (Axis) - 7/8/2018 8:42:08 PM

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Allied Turn September 8, 1940

Previous Axis Turn:
Clear in England. Clear in Europe.

The German Maritime bomber scores a big hit on HMS Parthian, doing 4 damage. A 2nd attack causes the sub to dive. There is a 3rd attack by a German Destroyer that causes another dive.
HMS Salmon is attacked by a German Destroyer to no effect.

The Panzers move north out of Portsmouth and do 4 damage in 2 attacks to the elite GARR in Oxford. The low supply value of the Panzers probably saved the GARR, but it is a shame they couldn't get a hit back.
The Panzers then move east a bit towards London.

The Garrison in Dover is hit by 5 unintercepted bombers. The improved AA equipment (lvl 1) assigned to the GAR (and to the town) scores hits on 3 Medium Bombers, but in the end the Garrison is obliterated.
Both a German Army and an HQ then make landfall at Dover.*

Just west of the English Channel, near the Scilly Islands, 2 U-boats and an Italian Sub engage in one on one battles with 3 destroyers:
U-boat (str 10) 1 dmg, HMS Jersey (str 9) 1 dmg
U-boat (str 10) 1 dmg, HMS Bulldog (str 10) 1 dmg
IT sub (str 10) 0 dmg, HMCS Assiniboine (str 10) 2 dmg

Stalin grows concerned at Germany's aggression, or perhaps is just jealous at the ease of their success (+11%).

US pilots start Volunteering for service in the UK and are organized in Canada.

Hungary and Bulgaria take bites out of Romania.

Allied Turn
Clear in England. Clear in Europe.

The damaged Garrison retreats north out of Oxford.

HMS Parthian and HMS Salmon break contact and move away from Portsmouth/Southampton.
HMS Bulldog finds U-73 (str 9) and does 1 damage to the sub. HMS Jersey and HMCS Assiniboine also attack the sub and do 1 damage between the 2 of them.

Subs or Raiders hit the Egyptian Convoy line for 16 damage. This could very well be Italians sneaking by Gibraltar.

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* He must have gotten a very early breakthrough on Amphib Tech to do this. The first turn he could have bought Amphib chits was May 17, 1940 (his first Tech investment was 200 on March 2, 1940 so that can't be it).
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Reports Info

USA 55%
USSR 31%

Yugoslavia 38% Axis
Spain 25% Axis
Netherlands 44% Allied
Vichy France 47% Axis
Algeria 54% Axis
Tunisia 60% Axis

UK 95% Morale
USA 100% Morale
USSR 100% Morale

IT 100% Morale
GE 107% Morale

UK 1,682 MPP in combat losses
USA 0 MPP in combat losses
USSR 0 MPP in combat losses
FR 5,551 MPP in combat losses

GE 3,869 MPP in combat losses
IT 0 MPP in combat losses

UK 160 MPP lost to Subs/Raiders
USSR 0 MPP lost to Subs/Raiders
GE 231 MPP lost to Subs/Raiders
GE 1 MPP lost to Strategic Bombing (35 Allied damage to bombers)
IT 0 MPP lost to Strategic Bombing

UK 3,245 MPP on Units, 1,025 MPP on Diplomacy, 400 MPP on Tech
USA 0 MPP on Units, 0 MPP on Diplomacy, 1,400 MPP on Tech
USSR 0 MPP on Units, 0 MPP on Diplomacy, 600 MPP on Tech
FR 1,114 MPP on Units, 150 MPP on Diplomacy, 0 MPP on Tech

GE 3,166 MPP on Units, 975 MPP on Diplomacy, 1,425 MPP on Tech
IT 439 MPP on Units, 275 MPP on Diplomacy, 625 MPP on Tech

UK Income: 245 MPP (excluding Lend Lease)
US Income: 208 MPP (excluding Lend Lease)
USSR Income: 117 MPP (excluding Lend Lease)

GE Income: 460 MPP (estimate)
IT Income: 107 MPP

Total Allied Income: 570 MPP
Total Axis Income: ~ 567 MPP (estimate)

*Note excluding DE costs from Allied Income listed above, but including convoy losses.

GE 39 Land Units, 10 Air Units, 12 Naval Units
IT 17 Land Units, 3 Air Units, 11 Naval Units

UK 22 Land Units, 6 Air Units, 29 Naval Units
USA 3 Land Units, 1 Air Units, 1 Naval Units
USSR 26 Land Units, 1 Air Units, 3 Naval Units

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RE: Tourney AAR Taxman66 (Allied) vs. IrishGuards (Axis) - 7/8/2018 9:03:48 PM

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Ger sept 21 turn
his AA2 takes huge hits on my 1st 3 bmrs in london 2 maratime 1 med
the rest of my bmrs hit london with little damage to bmrs
only a few ftrs came up for UK .. no damage to ger ftrs
my units hit london down to a 1 .. took 1 loss to a Pzr .. hes a 10 now
my air did most damage
landed another Pzr and a corp
found a 9 DD with a sub .. he died .. hit by 2 ger BC .. no damage for ger

UK I guess pulled out 2 spain dip chits and bought 2 more USSR chits
so were 5 each in USSR .. ger and italy have 3 more chits in minors
I didnt get a hit on amph tech .. just got my 1st 3 tech hits this turn
all 3 are very helpful .. !!!
was hoping to get london this turn but will have to wait til next turn I guess

the war is expanding .. !!
IG

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RE: Tourney AAR Taxman66 (Allied) vs. IrishGuards (Axis) - 7/8/2018 9:15:01 PM

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How did you land 2 units in Dover, which is not a port last turn?

Or 2 units this turn? There wasn't a transport waiting to offload at Portsmouth, which is under a value of 5 so can't move and offload the same turn.

Do you get a long range Amhib at level 0?
If so that would account for it.

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RE: Tourney AAR Taxman66 (Allied) vs. IrishGuards (Axis) - 7/8/2018 9:39:31 PM

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You can amphib from Calais to Dover in the same turn.

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RE: Tourney AAR Taxman66 (Allied) vs. IrishGuards (Axis) - 7/8/2018 10:45:59 PM

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Ok, but are you supposed to be allowed to do it twice when at amphib level 0?

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RE: Tourney AAR Taxman66 (Allied) vs. IrishGuards (Axis) - 7/8/2018 10:53:18 PM

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yup .. 2 amphibs at 0
and u can land from lehavre and cherbourg in 1 move also ..
right from france ...
u need ships in the ports and know where the amphib will launch from the port
into what hex .. !!
IG

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RE: Tourney AAR Taxman66 (Allied) vs. IrishGuards (Axis) - 7/10/2018 3:36:46 AM

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Allied Turn September 22, 1940

Previous Axis Turn:
Clear in England. Clear in Europe.

A Para moves into the undefended Oxford.

London is pummeled by air, but improved (level 2) AA from the city, the defending Corps and a dedicated AA unit northeast of the city, score hits on a German and Italian Maritime Bomber, and 2 Medium Bombers.
The German Condor actually takes 2 hits from AA fire (1 from AA unit the other from city/Corps). Neither of the Maritime Bomber fly 2nd missions.
English Spitfires fly 2 interceptions, after the AA unit fired twice, and does not fare very well being reduced to half strength while only scoring 1 hit on a Medium Bomber (one that also then took an AA hit).
2 Tactical Bombers also strike London and neither is hurt.

After all that the II Corps in London then fends off a paratrooper and 3 attacks from 2 Panzers (both str 11, the 2nd Panzer landing via Amphib this turn) and manages to ding both of them 1 dmg each.
The Corps is reduced to minimal strength, yet maintains control of London. Multiple Victoria Crosses are awarded, and the unit as a whole is recognized for its valor.

A German sub runs into HMS Bulldog not far from the Scilly islands and they exchange fire (Bulldog 2dmg, sub 1dmg). The sub then radio's Bulldog's position and Gneisenau smashes her with long range fire before Bulldog can escape (str 1).
Unfortunately Bulldog is then found by the damaged Scharnhorst. Unable to escape the Captain orders Bulldog to close range. Scharnhorst is perhaps momentarily taken by surprise and her first couple of volleys miss, but she finds the range and Bulldog is sunk.
Survivors, rescued by the nearby HMS Salmon, claim that one of Bulldog's torpedoes found the mark and hit Scharnhorst (2 dmg).

An Italian Battleship is spotted entering the Atlantic.

Allied Turn
Clear in England. Clear in Europe.

London is declared an 'Open City' to spare further damage to civilians and historic landmarks.

In the Atlantic, ORP Blyskawica finds the Italian sub Leonardo Da Vinci on the Iraqi convoy line and forces a dive.
HMCS Saguenay on it's way to help the Polish destroyer encounters U-30 (1 exp), also on the Iraqi convoy, and exchanges 1 damage with the sub.

Raiders hit the Egyptian (10), Canadian (7) and Indian (17) convoy lines for a total of 34 MPP.

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* The defending Corps is at single digit morale and readiness, and would only have an entrenchment level of 1 or 2. Even if the Luftwaffe is grounded by weather this unit is not going to hold out against an Army and 2 Panzers with prepared attacks, even at mediocre supply/morale/readiness.
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Reports Info

USA 55%
USSR 31%

Yugoslavia 38% Axis
Spain 25% Axis
Netherlands 44% Allied
Vichy France 47% Axis
Algeria 54% Axis
Tunisia 60% Axis

UK 94% Morale
USA 100% Morale
USSR 100% Morale

IT 99% Morale
GE 106% Morale

UK 2,209 MPP in combat losses
USA 0 MPP in combat losses
USSR 0 MPP in combat losses
FR 5,551 MPP in combat losses

GE 4,236 MPP in combat losses
IT 75 MPP in combat losses

UK 194 MPP lost to Subs/Raiders
USSR 0 MPP lost to Subs/Raiders
GE 231 MPP lost to Subs/Raiders
GE 1 MPP lost to Strategic Bombing (35 Allied damage to bombers)
IT 0 MPP lost to Strategic Bombing

UK 3,507 MPP on Units, 1,025 MPP on Diplomacy, 400 MPP on Tech
USA 0 MPP on Units, 0 MPP on Diplomacy, 1,550 MPP on Tech
USSR 0 MPP on Units, 0 MPP on Diplomacy, 600 MPP on Tech
FR 1,114 MPP on Units, 150 MPP on Diplomacy, 0 MPP on Tech

GE 3,166 MPP on Units, 975 MPP on Diplomacy, 1,425 MPP on Tech
IT 439 MPP on Units, 275 MPP on Diplomacy, 625 MPP on Tech

UK Income: 228 MPP (excluding Lend Lease)
US Income: 208 MPP (excluding Lend Lease)
USSR Income: 117 MPP (excluding Lend Lease)

GE Income: 460 MPP (estimate)
IT Income: 107 MPP

Total Allied Income: 553 MPP
Total Axis Income: ~ 567 MPP (estimate)

*Note excluding DE costs from Allied Income listed above, but including convoy losses.

GE 42 Land Units, 10 Air Units, 12 Naval Units
IT 17 Land Units, 3 Air Units, 11 Naval Units

UK 22 Land Units, 6 Air Units, 28 Naval Units
USA 3 Land Units, 1 Air Units, 1 Naval Units
USSR 26 Land Units, 1 Air Units, 3 Naval Units

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RE: Tourney AAR Taxman66 (Allied) vs. IrishGuards (Axis) - 7/10/2018 2:40:15 PM

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London is empty and falls ..
kilt a Uk tank corps and a garison
2 hits to 1 pzr
pushing north to coventry
some raiding of convoy lines
on to manchester
IG

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