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RE: TOE Details - 9/30/2015 7:37:26 AM   
Gabriel B.

 

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[294] 41 Rum. Light Howitzer Battalion
Artillery Support Battalion, 41/06 - 45/09
Build cost: 534 armaments + 0 supplies (~106 supplies)
Needs Sup Fuel Ammo Veh
Motorized 5 5 44 79
+Non-Motorized 6 1 44 17
Support: 15/24 (62.50%)

12 105mm Howitzer (Artillery)
15 Support

396 men, 12 guns, 0 AFV, CV 0.15 (0.02 @ 40)

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105mm light howitzer was not available in 1941 .

the actual units had Canon de 105 L mle 1936 Schneider ( heavy field gun ) not 10.5 cm leFH 18/40 ( divisional Howitzer )

< Message edited by Gabriel B. -- 9/30/2015 8:38:31 AM >

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RE: TOE Details - 9/30/2015 8:09:52 AM   
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[7] 41c Rifle Division -> [51] 42a Rifle Division
Infantry Combat Division, 41/12 - 42/02
Build cost: 6914 armaments + 0 supplies (~1382 supplies)
Needs Sup Fuel Ammo Veh
Motorized 105 145 228 1594
+Non-Motorized 112 2 228 57
Support: 275/494 (55.67%)

252 Rifle Squad 41
81 Rifle Squad (-)
27 Submachine Gun Squad (SMG Squad) [.]
39 Sapper Squad 41 (Engineer Squad)
72 82mm Mortar
18 120mm Mortar (Heavy Mortar)
30 45mm Anti-tank Gun M37 (AT Gun)
12 76mm Infantry Gun
12 12.7mm Anti-aircraft MG (AAMG)
6 37mm Anti-Aircraft Gun (Light Flak)
16 76mm Field Gun F-22 (Light Artillery)
8 122mm Howitzer (Artillery)
72 50mm Mortar (Light Mortar)
108 7.62mm Machine Gun (Machinegun)
89 14.5mm Anti-tank Rifle (Infantry-AT) [.]
275 Support

11615 men, 174 guns, 0 AFV, CV 17.14 (3.29 @ 45)

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this gun has to go.

400 rifle divisions * 16 guns= 6400 pieces

the gun is actualy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/76_mm_divisional_gun_M1939_(USV)


the 76 mm f-22 should only be used by these units.

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[177] 41 AT Artillery Brigade -> [185] 42 AT Artillery Brigade
Anti-tank Combat Brigade, 41/06 - 41/09
Build cost: 4186 armaments + 0 supplies (~837 supplies)
Needs Sup Fuel Ammo Veh
Motorized 49 75 185 680
+Non-Motorized 64 2 185 42
Support: 225/161 (139.75%)

48 85mm Anti-aircraft Gun (Medium Flak)
72 76mm Anti-tank Gun F-22 (AT Gun)
16 37mm Anti-Aircraft Gun (Light Flak)
12 12.7mm Anti-aircraft MG (AAMG)
225 Support

5372 men, 148 guns, 0 AFV, CV 2.37 (0.56 @ 50)

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RE: TOE Details - 9/30/2015 8:12:16 AM   
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RE: TOE Details - 9/30/2015 8:29:10 AM   
Gabriel B.

 

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ORIGINAL: morvael

Denniss is the expert here, I'll leave it to him to answer (if he has time).


Just for historical imersion because it does not realy have a impact on game play .

Also the soviet 122 mm M-30 howitzer was rare in 1941 (” 1800 pieces ), since the gun was capable of fast motorised towing
as oposed to the old https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/122_mm_howitzer_M1910/30 maybe it should only be used by tank/ mot divisions in 1941 but become the standard divisional howitzer in early 1942.







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RE: TOE Details - 4/21/2018 7:04:48 PM   
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RE: TOE Details - 6/22/2018 8:17:56 AM   
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http://www.niehorster.org/012_ussr/43-06-30_Kursk/Front-Bryansk/Div_003-gds-mort.html

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RE: TOE Details - 6/22/2018 12:26:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		3 brigades of 288 launchers each and this is represented in the 43/44 OBs, the earlier 42 OB was a mix of static and highly mobile launchers that dit not work out and was changed after initial experience

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RE: TOE Details - 6/25/2018 12:45:41 AM   
leverkuhn


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Status: offline 		Thank you so much for this information. If it's accurate, the amount of work condensed here is insane. I could literally study this for months...

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RE: TOE Details - 7/11/2018 8:01:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Denniss

3 brigades of 288 launchers each and this is represented in the 43/44 OBs, the earlier 42 OB was a mix of static and highly mobile launchers that dit not work out and was changed after initial experience


OK , THANKS

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