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ORIGINAL: rkr1958

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ORIGINAL: Joseignacio

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ORIGINAL: rkr1958

The USA is neutral, but US entry option 11, US East Coast Escorts is in play. The USA elects for their CV, CA and CL to participate in the combat. This I knew. But what I didn't know was that by participating in the combat, US CP's in the sea area are now eligible to take losses. My question is is this correct?

Without looking at the rules, and by the logics of the game no ---> USA is not at war so his convoys cannot be fired upon, however the SCSs and CVs are escorting so they can join the fray.

Response by Centuur in the tech forum clarifies that this is no bug. That is, US CP's can be used to take losses while the US is still neutral if the US commits to combat.

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ORIGINAL: Joseignacio

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ORIGINAL: Courtenay

Is there any way to see if a side has already railed a unit across a straight this turn, aside from trying to rail a unit and being told that you can't do that move?

Is there a limit for this?

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

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ORIGINAL: Joseignacio

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ORIGINAL: Courtenay

Is there any way to see if a side has already railed a unit across a straight this turn, aside from trying to rail a unit and being told that you can't do that move?

Is there a limit for this?

As for determining if a unit has used a straits previously in the turn - no, there isn't anyway to 'see' that. You just try it and find out you can't.

By the way, the limit is one unit per side per turn [not per impulse].

Choose wisely. Don't rail a division across the Istanbul straits in the first Axis impulse of a turn and then try to rail Manstein across to support attacks in the Mid-East in the next Axis impulse. I was quite unhappy when I discovered this.

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ORIGINAL: paulderynck

AT is still doubled on defence when attacked by arm/mech.

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ORIGINAL: Centuur

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

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ORIGINAL: Joseignacio

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ORIGINAL: Courtenay

Is there any way to see if a side has already railed a unit across a straight this turn, aside from trying to rail a unit and being told that you can't do that move?

Is there a limit for this?

As for determining if a unit has used a straits previously in the turn - no, there isn't anyway to 'see' that. You just try it and find out you can't.

By the way, the limit is one unit per side per turn [not per impulse].

Choose wisely. Don't rail a division across the Istanbul straits in the first Axis impulse of a turn and then try to rail Manstein across to support attacks in the Mid-East in the next Axis impulse. I was quite unhappy when I discovered this.

Can't we change this somehow on the map? Like with the Burma road which gets a different color when it's closed? Red straits arrows means it has been used, white arrows means you can still use it for rail movement (for example)?

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ORIGINAL: paulderynck

Yes that is so.

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ORIGINAL: rkr1958

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ORIGINAL: paulderynck

Yes that is so.

So I guess it's with wink and a nod the Vichy merchantmen agree to inform the allies if enemy subs or ships are operating in the area.

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Subtract 1 from your search roll for every 10 enemy convoy points (or part) in the sea area. This modifier does not apply to interception attempts, port attacks or during storm or blizzard. This modifier does apply after the first round of an interception combat.

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ORIGINAL: Joseignacio

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ORIGINAL: rkr1958

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ORIGINAL: paulderynck

Yes that is so.

So I guess it's with wink and a nod the Vichy merchantmen agree to inform the allies if enemy subs or ships are operating in the area.

Vichy handling is strange in this game. It's neutral so it shouldn't help any combat roll, but it's Axis friendly...

I am surprised about what Paul says but I am not ready to rebate it.

On second thought I'll try to:

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Subtract 1 from your search roll for every 10 enemy convoy points (or part) in the sea area. This modifier does not apply to interception attempts, port attacks or during storm or blizzard. This modifier does apply after the first round of an interception combat.

I don't think a neutral Vichy qualifies as "enemy". Am I wrong?

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ORIGINAL: paulderynck

Yeah the wording for the rule got convoluted too because the absence of both a convoy and enemy units capable of attacking it (without friendly units present as well) should not prevent crossing straits with a resource or tracing for oil or supply. If this clause had not been included then FREX the resource in the Crimea could not get across the Kerch straits when no units from either side are in the Black Sea.

I can't recall if this last proviso is coded.

The interaction of LOS and Limited Supply Across Straits has been hotly debated, usually with opponents to the way it works citing the successful evacuation of the German divisions from Sicily in 1943.

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ORIGINAL: Courtenay

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ORIGINAL: paulderynck

Yeah the wording for the rule got convoluted too because the absence of both a convoy and enemy units capable of attacking it (without friendly units present as well) should not prevent crossing straits with a resource or tracing for oil or supply. If this clause had not been included then FREX the resource in the Crimea could not get across the Kerch straits when no units from either side are in the Black Sea.

I can't recall if this last proviso is coded.

The interaction of LOS and Limited Supply Across Straits has been hotly debated, usually with opponents to the way it works citing the successful evacuation of the German divisions from Sicily in 1943.

Frankly I think that the way that LOS and limited supply across straits interact is broken, and it shows up most in Sicily. I am still unclear if the way it is currently coded is the way the rules are currently interpreted by ADG. They certainly aren't coded the way they are written, but I have a horrible suspicion that this is the way that ADG has interpreted the rules. At any rate, once I discovered how they interact, I have stopped using limited supply across straits, even though it is a rule I like.

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ORIGINAL: Courtenay

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ORIGINAL: paulderynck

Yeah the wording for the rule got convoluted too because the absence of both a convoy and enemy units capable of attacking it (without friendly units present as well) should not prevent crossing straits with a resource or tracing for oil or supply. If this clause had not been included then FREX the resource in the Crimea could not get across the Kerch straits when no units from either side are in the Black Sea.

I can't recall if this last proviso is coded.

The interaction of LOS and Limited Supply Across Straits has been hotly debated, usually with opponents to the way it works citing the successful evacuation of the German divisions from Sicily in 1943.

Frankly I think that the way that LOS and limited supply across straits interact is broken, and it shows up most in Sicily. I am still unclear if the way it is currently coded is the way the rules are currently interpreted by ADG. They certainly aren't coded the way they are written, but I have a horrible suspicion that this is the way that ADG has interpreted the rules. At any rate, once I discovered how they interact, I have stopped using limited supply across straits, even though it is a rule I like.

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16.3 Land action
If you play an offensive chit at the start of a land action, specify 1 of your face-up HQs. You gain the following benefits:
ï you can double the combat factors of this major power’s land units within range of the HQ when you calculate the final odds for the overrun or land combat. You can do this for as many units in the impulse as twice the HQ’s reorganisation value. You can double the same unit in more than one overrun or land combat but it counts against the total each time. You can only double each unit once per overrun or land combat; and (...)

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HQ benefits
If you use an offensive chit in an air or land action, you can apply some benefits within the “range” of an in supply major power or minor country HQ. A hex is within range if it is no further away in hexes and or hex-dots than the chosen HQ’s re-organisation value (ignoring terrain, neutral countries, enemy units and their ZOCs). Each Asian and Pacific map hex or hex-dot counts as 2 hexes for this purpose and each off-map hex counts as 4 hexes.

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ORIGINAL: Joseignacio

Ok, here goes my question:

When you want to use offensive chit to duplicate the units' power in an attack, ...

... is it possible to do it across the sea?

The wording seems to allow it but I am not 100% sure:

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16.3 Land action
If you play an offensive chit at the start of a land action, specify 1 of your face-up HQs. You gain the following benefits:
ï you can double the combat factors of this major power’s land units within range of the HQ when you calculate the final odds for the overrun or land combat. You can do this for as many units in the impulse as twice the HQ’s reorganisation value. You can double the same unit in more than one overrun or land combat but it counts against the total each time. You can only double each unit once per overrun or land combat; and (...)

So I guess you can reorganize from Dover to Calais for example. Right? 'Cause sea is a "terrain"...

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ORIGINAL: paulderynck

No prohibition except the Burma Road (which includes the RR going north from Hanoi) is one way inbound. It is possible the code dose not foresee a different pathway, if such is available.