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RE: 1942 July 05 - 8/24/2018 5:17:59 PM   
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Umm, please bear with me here but I don't catch the goofiness. It looks completely WAD - retreat along the supply path but not into the hex with enemies. Geographical directions play no role here, only supply path shape is important

I agree that as the algorithms work geographical directions play no role. The goofiness is the units retreated away from any base to which they could trace a supply route. Any supply route. Urumchi is so far away there is no supply route there so don't count that.

Now look at the hex they were in and the hex they retreated to. The hex they were in could trace a supply route (or at least at whatever cutoff the retreat code uses) to Kienko. Through enemy contested hexes but with friendly forces all holding the relevant hex sides. All good.

What about the hex they retreated to? No way. No supply route - UNLESS the algorithm uses a *very* high cost cutoff. Because to trace a route to Kienko from the new hex requires going around a bunch of enemy units, some roads some cross-country between roads, cross country through two full mountain hexes, and finally along a road.

The answer to the "UNLESS" query I pose will be answered when the IJN catches up and attacks again. No retreat will mean the algorithm operates in two steps as I first described. A retreat will mean there is some long, long, long 'supply' path being traced to Kienko.

This is of no consequences, I am just curious.

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RE: 1942 July 05 - 8/24/2018 5:20:39 PM   
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Perhaps they were holding the map upside down? Run that away!!

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RE: 1942 July 05 - 8/24/2018 5:28:57 PM   
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RE: 1942 July 05 - 8/24/2018 5:31:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		that completely reminds me of escape and evasion training in the army. Let me state
first off I was not the one holding the map! nor was I in any way in charge of that
particular gaggle. Lets just say I would have opened the map BEFORE we escaped.

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RE: 1942 July 05 - 8/24/2018 5:31:49 PM   
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RE: 1942 July 05 - 8/24/2018 5:35:13 PM   
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RE: 1942 July 05 - 8/24/2018 5:41:03 PM   
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this calls for a photo..........dont laugh!




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RE: 1942 July 05 - 8/24/2018 5:44:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		A very young nineteen something zuluhour on an FTX, not the infamous escape and evasion episode but you
get the idea. The dumb&^% with the map could'nt read but he was to big to take it away.

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1942 July 06 - 8/24/2018 9:09:56 PM   
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INVADED
Amphibious TF 99 offshore of Batoe-eilanden
Changsha, Mengtze, Urumchi are invested.

CHANGED OWNERSHIP



Overall
• KB2 is 1 hex E of Darwin: 1x CA, 3x CVE, 2x CVL; 8F, 17B.


West Coast USA, Alaska, Hawaii
• Enemy sub activity near Pearl Harbor, San Francisco.

• All convoys report no contacts.

• Slippery bugger.
quote:


Sub attack near San Francisco at 217,71

Japanese Ships
SS I-31

Allied Ships
YP-284

SS I-31 launches 2 torpedoes at YP-284
Escort abandons search for sub

quote:


ASW attack near San Francisco at 217,72

Japanese Ships
SS I-31

Allied Ships
AM Chignecto

SS I-31 is located by AM Chignecto
AM Chignecto fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Chignecto fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Chignecto fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Chignecto fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Chignecto fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


• That single sub spotted 4 hexes from Pearl Harbor does not make me want to load assault transports now. But when?


Pacific
• Enemy sub activity near Sydney Island.

• All convoys report no contacts.


New Zealand, Australia, New Caledonia, New Hebrides, Solomons, Papua New Guinea, New Britain
•Enemy sub activity near Sydney.

• All convoys report no contacts.

• This was KB2 jumping to the other side of Darwin. One sub is re-tasked to there others, already assigned that area, are a few days away.
quote:


ASW attack near Darwin at 75,122

Japanese Ships
DD Minegumo
DD Natsugumo
DD Shikinami
DD Hibiki

Allied Ships
SS Saury

SS Saury is sighted by escort
DD Shikinami fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Hibiki fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


• Terrible weather reigned, grounding our B-17's and likely accounting for the presence of only one enemy strike in the skies.
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Morning Air attack on 8th Cav Recce Regiment, at 77,126 , near Fenton

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 2

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb


• Better for the B-17's; only one more size to go.
quote:


Cloncurry expands airfield to size 8



Philippines


DEI, Dutch new Guinea, Borneo, Malaya


China
• The daily beatings continue, all from a combination of aerial and artillery bombardments.


India, Burma, Thailand, Indochina
• Enemy sub activity near Karachi, Colombo.


Japan, Korea, Manchuria, Russia


Complete combat report attached.

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RE: 1942 July 05 - 8/24/2018 9:43:15 PM   
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Umm, please bear with me here but I don't catch the goofiness. It looks completely WAD - retreat along the supply path but not into the hex with enemies. Geographical directions play no role here, only supply path shape is important

I agree that as the algorithms work geographical directions play no role. The goofiness is the units retreated away from any base to which they could trace a supply route. Any supply route. Urumchi is so far away there is no supply route there so don't count that.

Now look at the hex they were in and the hex they retreated to. The hex they were in could trace a supply route (or at least at whatever cutoff the retreat code uses) to Kienko. Through enemy contested hexes but with friendly forces all holding the relevant hex sides. All good.

What about the hex they retreated to? No way. No supply route - UNLESS the algorithm uses a *very* high cost cutoff. Because to trace a route to Kienko from the new hex requires going around a bunch of enemy units, some roads some cross-country between roads, cross country through two full mountain hexes, and finally along a road.

The answer to the "UNLESS" query I pose will be answered when the IJN catches up and attacks again. No retreat will mean the algorithm operates in two steps as I first described. A retreat will mean there is some long, long, long 'supply' path being traced to Kienko.

This is of no consequences, I am just curious.

The path is rather straightforward, see picture. Supply can go through enemy just fine as long as hexsides are free.

What is more interesting Tienshui base (dot to the north-west of Sian) is not marked with Japanese hexside ownership. Which is strange, cause its color looks Japanese. Was it captured by flippage?




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RE: 1942 July 05 - 8/24/2018 10:31:41 PM   
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RE: 1942 July 05 - 8/24/2018 11:46:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: GetAssista

Umm, please bear with me here but I don't catch the goofiness. It looks completely WAD - retreat along the supply path but not into the hex with enemies. Geographical directions play no role here, only supply path shape is important

I agree that as the algorithms work geographical directions play no role. The goofiness is the units retreated away from any base to which they could trace a supply route. Any supply route. Urumchi is so far away there is no supply route there so don't count that.

Now look at the hex they were in and the hex they retreated to. The hex they were in could trace a supply route (or at least at whatever cutoff the retreat code uses) to Kienko. Through enemy contested hexes but with friendly forces all holding the relevant hex sides. All good.

What about the hex they retreated to? No way. No supply route - UNLESS the algorithm uses a *very* high cost cutoff. Because to trace a route to Kienko from the new hex requires going around a bunch of enemy units, some roads some cross-country between roads, cross country through two full mountain hexes, and finally along a road.

The answer to the "UNLESS" query I pose will be answered when the IJN catches up and attacks again. No retreat will mean the algorithm operates in two steps as I first described. A retreat will mean there is some long, long, long 'supply' path being traced to Kienko.

This is of no consequences, I am just curious.

The path is rather straightforward, see picture. Supply can go through enemy just fine as long as hexsides are free.

What is more interesting Tienshui base (dot to the north-west of Sian) is not marked with Japanese hexside ownership. Which is strange, cause its color looks Japanese. Was it captured by flippage?




I thought one of those hex sides was his. That path makes more sense.

Tienshui: I will have to look.

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RE: 1942 July 07 - 8/25/2018 3:58:23 AM   
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INVADED
Amphibious TF 253 offshore of Great Nicobar
Changsha, Mengtze, Urumchi are invested.

CHANGED OWNERSHIP
Batoe-eilanden is occupied by the Japanese



Overall
• KB2 is 1 hex E of Darwin: 1x CV, 3x CVE, 2x CVL; 9F, 15B.

• I am considering commencing loading for Cantankerous Olfactory on July 10 in the absence of new information.


West Coast USA, Alaska, Hawaii
• Enemy sub activity near San Francisco, Pearl Harbor.

• All convoys report no contacts.

• A new ASW TF (4x DD) formed this turn (all ASW TF's from PH were brought in to prepare for invasion ops just before) is near the sub and shows DL 4/5 although the sub has disappeared otherwise.


Pacific
• Enemy sub activity near Nanumea.

• All convoys report no contacts.

• Our old CL TF made it to their destination and turned around without being spotted. They are reversing course and will try their luck proceeding to the hex 7 hexes NE of Wake Island.


New Zealand, Australia, New Caledonia, New Hebrides, Solomons, Papua New Guinea, New Britain
• Enemy sub activity near Sydney, Melbourne.

• All convoys report no contacts.

• Fuel and Supply unloading at Melbourne.

• Depleting their ammo for other subs to score.
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ASW attack near Darwin at 77,124

Japanese Ships
DD Natsugumo
DD Shikinami
DD Hibiki

Allied Ships
SS Salmon, hits 1

SS Salmon is sighted by escort
DD Shikinami attacking submerged sub ....
DD Hibiki fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


• 1x Zero, 1x B-17 lost. Weather is a continuing problem.
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Morning Air attack on 1st Tank Battalion, at 78,128 , near Katherine

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 42 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A1 Val x 6

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 2nd Tank Battalion, at 76,128 (Katherine)

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 8
D3A1 Val x 5

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
8 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 8th Cav Recce Regiment, at 77,126 , near Fenton

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 8th Tank Regiment, at 75,127 , near Katherine

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 3

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 11 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 5000 feet *
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 5000 feet *
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 5000 feet *
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 5000 feet *
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 5000 feet *
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Genzan Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Raid is overhead
3rd Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Raid is overhead
Tainan Ku S-1 Det B with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Raid is overhead
Ryujo-1 with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Raid is overhead
Hosho-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Raid is overhead
16th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 12000.
Raid is overhead

Sugio, S. in a A6M2 Zero makes head on attack ... forces B-17E Fortress out of formation

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Morning Air attack on 8th Tank Regiment, at 75,127 , near Katherine

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 2

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 5000 feet *
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Genzan Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 5000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
3rd Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 5000.
Raid is overhead
Tainan Ku S-1 Det B with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 5000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 52 minutes
Ryujo-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 5000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 81 minutes
16th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 5000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes


• The armoured car regiment has reached Katherine.

• It looks like our raid on Nookanbah netted some supply! The armoured Rgt topped up and there are 120 Supply at the base now. The Rgt has just pulled out so in the coming days the supply should flow to Katherine or Daly Waters.


Philippines


DEI, Dutch new Guinea, Borneo, Malaya


China
• The additional Imperial unit has arrived west of Paoshan and is a tank regiment.


India, Burma, Thailand, Indochina
• Enemy sub activity near Karachi.

• 40 mines laid in Rangoon!

• Bombers are being positioned to airlift supply into Ledo for airlift into China. The monsoon cap of 1,000 supply per day is depleting stocks.


Japan, Korea, Manchuria, Russia


Complete combat report attached.

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1942 July 08 - 8/26/2018 1:02:54 AM   
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INVADED
Changsha, Mengtze, Urumchi are invested.

CHANGED OWNERSHIP
Great Nicobar is occupied by the Japanese



Overall
• No carrier sightings. Air strikes lead me to believe KB2 is still near Darwin.


West Coast USA, Alaska, Hawaii
• Enemy sub activity near Pearl Harbor, San Francisco.

• All convoys report no contacts.


Pacific
• Enemy sub activity near Suva, Nanumea, Pago Pago.

• All convoys report no contacts.

• Our old CL TF is sitting 7 hexes from Wake Island seemingly without detection. They will head back to Pearl Harbor without going back to Midway, so their course might take into Imperial search arcs.


New Zealand, Australia, New Caledonia, New Hebrides, Solomons, Papua New Guinea, New Britain
• Enemy sub activity near Sydney

• All convoys report no contacts.

• Fuel and Supply unloading at Melbourne.

• 2x B-17's were lost.
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Morning Air attack on 47th Infantry Regiment, at 76,126 (Fenton)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 2

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 15

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 7 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
142 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 5000 feet *
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 5000 feet *
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 5000 feet *
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 5000 feet *
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 5000 feet *
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Tainan Ku S-1 Det B with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Raid is overhead
Ryujo-1 with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Raid is overhead
16th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 12000.
Raid is overhead

Also attacking 8th Tank Regiment ...

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Morning Air attack on 47th Infantry Regiment, at 76,126 (Fenton)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 1

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 5

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
44 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 5000 feet *
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
2 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 5000 feet *
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Tainan Ku S-1 Det B with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 5000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
Ryujo-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 5000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 64 minutes
16th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 5000.
Raid is overhead


• Two USA TD Bns are passing through Tennant Creek on their way to the front.


Philippines


DEI, Dutch new Guinea, Borneo, Malaya


China
• Maneuvering.

• Another Imperial horde is nearing Urumchi.

• Anticipate the first attack on the ex-Sian defenders in their new positions tomorrow.


India, Burma, Thailand, Indochina
• Enemy sub activity near Trivandrum, Karachi.

• I think we scared them away!
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ASW attack near Karachi at 39,7

Japanese Ships
SS I-25

Allied Ships
TK British Sovereign
TK Athelstane
TK Norfold
xAK Ima
xAK Shinkuang
xAK Marion Moller
xAK Bandra
PC Haideri

SS I-25 is sighted by escort
I-25 bottoming out ....
PC Haideri fails to find sub, continues to search...
PC Haideri fails to find sub, continues to search...
PC Haideri fails to find sub, continues to search...
PC Haideri fails to find sub, continues to search...
PC Haideri fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


• One more to go.
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Ledo expands airfield to size 8



Japan, Korea, Manchuria, Russia


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RE: 1942 July 08 - 8/26/2018 1:15:58 AM   
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Sugio, S. in a A6M2 Zero makes head on attack ... forces B-17E Fortress out of formation
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Amazing stuff put in by the Devs.

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RE: 1942 July 08 - 8/26/2018 11:41:42 AM   
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RE: 1942 July 08 - 8/26/2018 12:13:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: zuluhour

looking forward to OP PU.


Is that Navajo code talking?



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1942 July 09 - 8/27/2018 3:41:49 PM   
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INVADED
Darwin, Changsha, Mengtze, Urumchi are invested.

CHANGED OWNERSHIP



Overall
• No carrier sightings. Sqn Ryujo-1 seen in action over Fenton.


West Coast USA, Alaska, Hawaii
• Enemy sub activity near San Francisco, Niihau. Firm sub sighting 6 hexes straight south of Niihau.

• All convoys report no contacts.

• Loading for Cantankerous Olfactory is being delayed for one or possibly two days so ASW forces can rush the spotted sub and possibly send it away before masses of shipping leave harbor. Additional DD ASW TF's have formed and Long Island has taken on a DB Sqn for search. LI will be protected by 6 of the best ASW DD's.


Pacific
• Enemy sub activity near Suva.

• All convoys report no contacts.

• Damn!
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ASW attack near Eniwetok at 124,113

Japanese Ships
CM Itsukushima

Allied Ships
SS Tuna

SS Tuna is sighted by escort
CM Itsukushima fails to find sub, continues to search...
CM Itsukushima fails to find sub, continues to search...
CM Itsukushima fails to find sub, continues to search...
CM Itsukushima fails to find sub, continues to search...
CM Itsukushima attacking submerged sub ....
SS Tuna eludes CM Itsukushima by diving deep
CM Itsukushima loses contact with SS Tuna
Escort abandons search for sub


• Our old CL TF is 11 hexes from Wake Island on a rough line to Midway Island and reports no DL. They will take up a course directly SE that will pass 20 hexes from the nearest enemy Marshall Island bases.


New Zealand, Australia, New Caledonia, New Hebrides, Solomons, Papua New Guinea, New Britain
• Enemy sub activity near Reef Islands, Sydney

• All convoys report no contacts.

• Fuel unloading at Melbourne.

• 4x Zero's versus 2x B-17's lost.
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Morning Air attack on 47th Infantry Regiment, at 76,126 (Fenton)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 2

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 16

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
58 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 5000 feet *
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 5000 feet *
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 5000 feet *
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 5000 feet *
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 5000 feet *
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Tainan Ku S-1 Det B with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Raid is overhead
Ryujo-1 with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Raid is overhead
16th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 12000.
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on 47th Infantry Regiment, at 76,126 (Fenton)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
41 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 5000 feet *
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 5000 feet *
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Tainan Ku S-1 Det B with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 5000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 57 minutes
Ryujo-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 5000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes

Also attacking 8th Tank Regiment ...

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Morning Air attack on 47th Infantry Regiment, at 76,126 (Fenton)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 5 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 3

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 5000 feet *
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb


• Only one unit is at Darwin and it must be the division as the Inf Rgt and tank Rgt were spotted at Fenton yesterday. Today no units are seen at Fenton and only one unit between Fenton and Darwin.


Philippines


DEI, Dutch new Guinea, Borneo, Malaya


China
• They toy with us!
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Ground combat at 83,39 (near Sian)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12389 troops, 104 guns, 55 vehicles, Assault Value = 889

Defending force 39301 troops, 70 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 320

Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
17th Division
34th Division
37th Division

Defending units:
92nd Chinese Corps
98th Chinese Corps
9th Chinese/A Corps
81st Chinese Corps
93rd Chinese Corps
35th Chinese Corps
12th Chinese Corps
57th Chinese/A Corps
16th Chinese/A Corps
27th Chinese Corps
38th Chinese/A Corps
61st Chinese Corps
33rd Chinese/A Corps
88th Chinese Corps
33rd Chinese/B Corps
57th Chinese/C Corps
120th Red Chinese Division
9th Chinese/C Corps
9th Chinese/B Corps
13th Group Army
12th Chinese Base Force
15th Chinese Base Force
38th Chinese/C Corps
16th Chinese/C Corps
4th Chinese Cavalry/A Corps
51st Chinese Corps
38th Chinese/B Corps
4th Group Army
37th Group Army
129th Red Chinese Division
33rd Chinese/C Corps
4th Chinese Cavalry/B Corps



India, Burma, Thailand, Indochina
• No enemy sub activity detected.


Japan, Korea, Manchuria, Russia


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Wouldn't it be faster for your tank unit to follow the road until they are past the rough terrain?

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Wouldn't it be faster for your tank unit to follow the road until they are past the rough terrain?

Game code selected route!

I've learned to trust it as the fastest. The The only time I override it is when I have some other reason, such as wanting the unit to stay on a road in case circumstances change rapidly.

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6 hits on that pesky snooper sub near Hawaii. Four ASW TF's are pursuing it to recover the secret microfilm... oh wait.

The CL TF is still not spotted so a northward route angling down into the Marshall Islands will be our invasion route.




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INVADED
Amphibious TF 99 offshore of Pagai-eilanden
Amphibious TF 253 offshore of Car Nicobar
Changsha, Mengtze, Urumchi are invested.

CHANGED OWNERSHIP
Japanese forces CAPTURE Darwin !!!



Overall
• No carrier sightings. Sqns Ryujo-1 and Chitose Ku S-1 sighted in action near Darwin.

• Troops are loading for operation Cantankerous Olfactory; I assume that will take a couple of days.

• We are short of destroyers for Op CO, but then again we are short of destroyers for everything and short of everything else for everything. Of course the ASW and Long Island groups will be recalled and reallocated before the fleet departs.

• Still being without any current word on the major IJN fleet carriers this operation will be as risky as it gets, with all the USN carriers, all the operational USN battleships, and nearly all of the USN cruisers and destroyers involved. Read your Fleet Tactics (by Wayne Hughes) about the contrast in the concept of reserves in land operations versus naval operations.

• The USA infantry squads are equipped as USA 41 Rifle Squad: 15 anti-armor, 22 anti-soft. The USMC infantry as USMC 42 Rifle Squad: 15 anti-armor, 23 anti-soft. The USMC Raiders as USMC Raider Squad: 15 anti-armor, 19 anti-soft.


West Coast USA, Alaska, Hawaii
• Enemy sub activity near Kona, San Francisco, Lihue.

• All convoys report no contacts.

• One of four ASW TF's on the hunt.
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ASW attack near Pearl Harbor at 177,112

Japanese Ships
SS I-29

Allied Ships
DD Smith
DD Perkins
DD Cushing

SS I-29 launches 2 torpedoes at DD Smith
DD Perkins fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Cushing fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Pearl Harbor at 177,112

Japanese Ships
SS I-29, hits 6

Allied Ships
DD Perkins
DD Smith
DD Cushing

SS I-29 launches 4 torpedoes at DD Perkins
DD Perkins fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Cushing fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Perkins fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Cushing fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Cushing fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Cushing fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Cushing attacking submerged sub ....
DD Cushing cannot establish contact with SS I-29
DD Cushing attacking submerged sub ....
SS I-29 eludes DD Cushing by diving deep
SS I-29 eludes ASW attack from DD Cushing
DD Cushing loses contact with SS I-29
Escort abandons search for sub

The sub is still firmly sighted and four ASW TF's are pursuing, plus Long Island with her DB's on naval search and her strong destroyer protection screen in case the prey becomes the hunter.


Pacific
• Enemy sub activity near Suva.

• All convoys report no contacts.

• Our old CL TF is now on a line level with Pearl Harbor and has not been spotted at all so far as we know. They will return to Pearl Harbor to refuel, then join Op CO as northern outriders to warn against IJN strikes into withdrawing convoys.


New Zealand, Australia, New Caledonia, New Hebrides, Solomons, Papua New Guinea, New Britain
• Enemy sub activity near Sydney.

• All convoys report no contacts.

• Fuel unloading at Melbourne.

• SigInt pays off but escorts thwart the attack.
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ASW attack near Wyndham at 71,126

Japanese Ships
PB Takunan Maru #5

Allied Ships
SS Perch

SS Perch is sighted by escort
PB Takunan Maru #5 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Takunan Maru #5 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Takunan Maru #5 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Takunan Maru #5 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Takunan Maru #5 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


• The last hurrah for now as the B-17's are assigned to bring supplies into Daly Waters.
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Morning Air attack on 8th Tank Regiment, at 75,125 , near Darwin

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 2 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 0 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 3

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 5000 feet *
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Ryujo-1 with A6M2 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Raid is overhead
Chitose Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Raid is overhead
Tainan Ku S-1 Det B with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Raid is overhead
16th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 12000.
Raid is overhead


• Darwin falls.
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Ground combat at Darwin (76,124)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 12671 troops, 100 guns, 14 vehicles, Assault Value = 389

Defending force 831 troops, 20 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 19

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 3

Japanese adjusted assault: 362

Allied adjusted defense: 3

Japanese assault odds: 120 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Darwin !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
22 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
740 casualties reported
Squads: 26 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 49 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 10 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 21 (21 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
4th Division

Defending units:
Darwin Fortress


• The handful of engineers with thr armoured units at Katherine have repaired base damage and will now work on at least rudimentary fortifications.


Philippines


DEI, Dutch new Guinea, Borneo, Malaya
• Looks like the crabs will be getting some company.
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Japanese Fighter sighted over Christmas Island IO



China
• The mouse plays with its prey.
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Ground combat at 83,39 (near Sian)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12443 troops, 104 guns, 55 vehicles, Assault Value = 902

Defending force 38784 troops, 65 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 315

Assaulting units:
34th Division
17th Division
37th Division

Defending units:
16th Chinese/A Corps
81st Chinese Corps
9th Chinese/A Corps
57th Chinese/A Corps
35th Chinese Corps
27th Chinese Corps
38th Chinese/A Corps
88th Chinese Corps
98th Chinese Corps
61st Chinese Corps
92nd Chinese Corps
12th Chinese Corps
93rd Chinese Corps
33rd Chinese/A Corps
57th Chinese/C Corps
33rd Chinese/B Corps
4th Group Army
120th Red Chinese Division
9th Chinese/B Corps
38th Chinese/C Corps
9th Chinese/C Corps
4th Chinese Cavalry/A Corps
15th Chinese Base Force
16th Chinese/C Corps
38th Chinese/B Corps
51st Chinese Corps
129th Red Chinese Division
33rd Chinese/C Corps
13th Group Army
37th Group Army
12th Chinese Base Force
4th Chinese Cavalry/B Corps


• Another armoured assault!
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Ground combat at 64,45 (near Paoshan)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 14870 troops, 162 guns, 113 vehicles, Assault Value = 596

Defending force 16860 troops, 62 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 604

Japanese adjusted assault: 34

Allied adjusted defense: 1459

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 42

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
60 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
18th Division
4th Tank Regiment
33rd/C Division
3rd Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
28th Chinese Corps
54th Chinese Corps


• Having caught some fleeting glimpses earlier, I am not surprised to now see an Imperial unit closing on Paoshan from the SW. Two hexes of mountainous cross country terrain I hope they run out of bullets quickly and then starve. We already have a unit moving from 4 hexes east of Kunming to Tsuyung, replacing the unit which marched to bolster defenses NW of Paoshan (where an Imperial Mixed Rgt is crossing the river). Another unit from east of Kunming is moving to Kunming. These Imperial movements are more than just part of increasing pressure across the board; they are aimed at undermining defenses in the mountains before Chinese units (soon to be) falling back from other areas can get there and dig in. Dastardly Imperials!


India, Burma, Thailand, Indochina
• Enemy sub activity near Karachi.

• British major fleet units are spotted by Imperial sub-based aerial recon. Our ships are there to allow a carrier to withdraw.

• The recent increase in size of Ledo airfield to size 8 has increased the daily supply land-draw cap to 1,100. Everything will help at this point so we can keep supply flowing into China.

• The 102nd RAF Base Force, ex-Lashio and which moved to Paoshan in the early going to aid fortification building, has finally crossed the Burma-China frontier deep in the mountains. Counting the hex they are in and their destination of Ledo, they must now cross MT, JR, Mtn, and Jg. They took this long route to avoid being sniped. BTW, anyone know the difference between terrain types MT and Mtn? So far as I know there is only one type of mountain terrain listed in the manual.


Japan, Korea, Manchuria, Russia


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Missed us! Only 2 more miles to go into the Desert-Rough terrain.




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We may have found our approach vector for Cantankerous Olfactory: head to a latitude north of Johnston Island then turn west until close enough to the first two targets, Wotje and Maloelap, to make a run in to them.




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Infiltration on Steroids.




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Cantankerous Olfactory.




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Status: offline 		Looks like a different person was typing in the description code for the Himalayas and the mountains bordering them. All the grey stone/snow covered mountains appear to have the Mtn descriptor while the ones labeled MT seem to have some variability in their artwork. Since the game engine would be using a numeric code for mountains, I doubt the difference matters.

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Status: offline 		well, yeah but the numeric descriptor is what points to either Mtn or MT, so I still wonder if the numeric codes resolve to anything different in other areas, like movement, combat, etc.

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well, yeah but the numeric descriptor is what points to either Mtn or MT, so I still wonder if the numeric codes resolve to anything different in other areas, like movement, combat, etc.

Might be harder to dig a latrine in mtn terrain ... but they can just go in the snow and let the archeologists be happy to find it in 1100 years.

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