RE: Notes from a Small Island

Matrix Games Forums

Forums Register Login Photo Gallery Member List Search Calendars FAQ

My Profile Inbox Address Book My Subscription My Forums Log Out

RE: Notes from a Small Island

View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest

Users viewing this topic: none

Printable Version

All Forums >> [New Releases from Matrix Games] >> War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition >> After Action Reports >> RE: Notes from a Small Island

Page: << < prev 85 86 [87] 88 89 next > >>

Message

<< Older Topic Newer Topic >>

RE: Notes from a Small Island - 8/31/2018 3:19:39 PM

Lokasenna

Posts: 9297
Joined: 3/3/2012
From: Iowan in MD/DC
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Squamry

quote:

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

The coordination penalty drops over time. More significantly, many good players have consistently reported that coordination issues are minor and pale in comparison to the advantages of using larger carrier TFs.

Just curious if this is a late war thought or applies all the way through? When playing as allies I like at most 4 CV/CVLs in a TF but none of my games have got past mid 44. I've found this much better against the KB mega TF used by a couple of opponents because there is usually at least one TF that does not get targeted so I always have some active carriers after the clash.

All the way through. The magnitude of the penalty is the same no matter what.

If your TFs are in the same hex, planes will attack ships from multiple TFs. But mostly, having them all together prevents potential movement snafus and also frees up ships that would otherwise be babysitting carriers so that they can do other things... like also sit in the same hex, in a dedicated SCTF with a good SCTF commander (like Lee) that you might not otherwise be able to have commanding that TF if you formed it via detaching ships from CV TFs.

(in reply to Squamry)

Post #: 2581

RE: Notes from a Small Island - 9/1/2018 4:20:11 AM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

1/8/45

NoPac: What's at stake on this turn.

Attachment (1)

(in reply to Lokasenna)

Post #: 2582

RE: Notes from a Small Island - 9/1/2018 4:24:14 AM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

1/8/45

Sapporo: There are two routes of approach to - or escape from - Sapporo: to the NW or to the NE. Two USN DDs are patrolling the NW hex, which is Erik's most likely escape vector. This TF is ordered to enter Sapporo, but before it can do so it encounters this TF. I don't know if it's inbound or outbound.

Attachment (1)

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 2583

RE: Notes from a Small Island - 9/1/2018 4:28:20 AM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

1/8/45

Sapporo: After brushing aside the MLs, Laffey and Carmick steam SE and bump into an enemy CA force. So the cruisers are here. Has Erik sortied them to escape or to engage Death Star, or are they parked here for defensive purposes. I don't know - at least, not yet.

Attachment (1)

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 2584

RE: Notes from a Small Island - 9/1/2018 4:31:17 AM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

1/8/45

Sapporo: The outnumbered American destroyers fight well and score hits. Lots more Allied TFs are inbound, or supposedly so, so this is an encouraging start. But thus far I'm down one destroyer.

Attachment (1)

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 2585

RE: Notes from a Small Island - 9/1/2018 4:34:27 AM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

1/8/45

Sapporo: A fresh USN DD TF on the way, this one vectored purposefully to come in from the NW, just in case Erik sent his cruisers outbound that way. Instead, the destroyers find and dispatch some riff-raff.

Attachment (1)

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 2586

RE: Notes from a Small Island - 9/1/2018 4:37:35 AM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

1/8/45

Sapporo: Mine-tenders also encountered in this hex, suggesting that Erik has sortied at least his small craft to depart Sapporo for safety. If I'm lucky, this clash might impact Erik's ability to maintain mines in port.

Attachment (1)

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 2587

RE: Notes from a Small Island - 9/1/2018 4:40:34 AM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

1/8/45

Sapporo: An Alied CL/DD force approaching from the NE encounters an SSX.

Attachment (1)

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 2588

RE: Notes from a Small Island - 9/1/2018 4:43:53 AM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

1/8/45

Sapporo: Another fresh USN DD TF encounters the IJN cruiser TF. This screenshot was taken before the shooting began, so the enemy ships are a bit worse for the wear from previous action. The makeup of the enemy TF certainly isn't optimal. Erik has to be hurting for DDs.

Attachment (1)

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 2589

RE: Notes from a Small Island - 9/1/2018 4:46:50 AM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

1/8/45

Sapporo: Hard fighting by both sides. The Allied destroyers clearly prevail, but they don't manage to apply the coup-de-grace.

Note the enemy TF icons approaching Wakkanai from the east and southeast. I've taken some precautions but don't know if they are enough.

Attachment (1)

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 2590

RE: Notes from a Small Island - 9/1/2018 4:49:35 AM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

1/8/45

Sapporo: Enemy defenses kick in.

Attachment (1)

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 2591

RE: Notes from a Small Island - 9/1/2018 4:51:38 AM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

1/8/45

Sapporo: The Allied CL/DD TF arrives and takes on a fresh enemy cruiser TF (darn, I wish they'd targeted the tuckered-out one). The fighting is rather desultory. Once again, the composition of Erik's TF is noteworthy.

Attachment (1)

< Message edited by Canoerebel -- 9/1/2018 4:52:01 AM >

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 2592

RE: Notes from a Small Island - 9/1/2018 4:54:16 AM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

1/8/45

Sapporo: Both Allied CLs are showing a lot of flames during this little combat movie.

Attachment (1)

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 2593

RE: Notes from a Small Island - 9/1/2018 4:56:46 AM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

1/8/45

Sapporo: The most powerful Allied TF involved arrives at Sapporo (just prior to this, the Allied CL/DD TF reporting clearing a bunch of mines without incurring additional damage).

Also, an Allied YMS TF reported clearing about 40 mines at Wakkanai.

Attachment (1)

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 2594

RE: Notes from a Small Island - 9/1/2018 4:59:26 AM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

1/8/45

Sapporo: Sweeping away riff-raff. (Note the enemy subs two hexes north of Sapporo. That's where DS began the day.)

Attachment (1)

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 2595

RE: Notes from a Small Island - 9/1/2018 5:01:08 AM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

1/08/45

Sapporo:

Attachment (1)

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 2596

RE: Notes from a Small Island - 9/1/2018 5:03:10 AM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

1/8/45

Sapporo: This looks promising! This is the very set-up I was hoping for while entering the orders for this turn. Go, boys! Go!

Attachment (1)

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 2597

RE: Notes from a Small Island - 9/1/2018 5:05:25 AM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

1/8/45

Sapporo: The Louisville TF strikes hard.

Attachment (1)

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 2598

RE: Notes from a Small Island - 9/1/2018 5:08:24 AM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

1/8/45

Sapporo: Combat = Friction = Attrition

Attachment (1)

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 2599

RE: Notes from a Small Island - 9/1/2018 5:11:43 AM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

1/8/45

Sapporo: A USN sub or two will henceforth patrol this hex (assuming enemey ASW doesn't become problematic) to check for mines.

Just prior to this altercation, a PT boat hit a mine and sank. About six USN PT TFs were orderd to Sapporo from Wakkanai, but this is the only time one is mentioned during the combat replay.

Attachment (1)

< Message edited by Canoerebel -- 9/1/2018 5:12:13 AM >

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 2600

RE: Notes from a Small Island - 9/1/2018 5:16:35 AM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

1/8/45

Sapporo:

Attachment (1)

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 2601

RE: Notes from a Small Island - 9/1/2018 5:21:30 AM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

1/8/45

Sapporo: It is clear now that Erik did not sortie his combat TFs towards Death Star, nor did he set them to flee to safety. He left them rather "naked" - exposed to an Allied onslaught. This is surprising, to me, and warrants further thought. Why? What advantage did he see here, or what necessity was he allowing for?

Allied recon did not show lots of enemy ships disbanded in port, so sinking the ML, PB, MTB, SC craft may help clear the way for follow-up action. I don't know, yet, if the Allies will press here or move to another target, but the beginnins of a plan have come to mind.

Message received that only a few B-29s sortied and they couldn't find the target. So no bombing of the port tonight - and no report to find out whether the Black Widow night-fighters managed to escort the bombers.

Attachment (1)

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 2602

RE: Notes from a Small Island - 9/1/2018 5:23:51 AM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

1/8/45

Sapporo:

Attachment (1)

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 2603

RE: Notes from a Small Island - 9/1/2018 5:25:36 AM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

1/8/45

Sapporo:

Attachment (1)

< Message edited by Canoerebel -- 9/1/2018 5:27:44 AM >

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 2604

RE: Notes from a Small Island - 9/1/2018 5:30:18 AM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

1/8/45

Sapporo: The night-phase ends. The day begins with the YMS TF clearing a lot more mines at Wakkanai, followed by this skirmish.

Attachment (1)

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 2605

RE: Notes from a Small Island - 9/1/2018 5:34:11 AM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

1/8/45

Sapporo: A tough battle, with Japan losing another DD. Boy, I hope I have more combat TFs available, not to mention those PT TFs.

But its daylight now, so any Allied TFs here are exposed to attack by enemy aircraft. Some of my LBA fighters are set to LRCAP but not nearly enough to handle what Erik can commit, if he wishes to.

Attachment (1)

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 2606

RE: Notes from a Small Island - 9/1/2018 5:39:53 AM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

1/8/45

Sapporo: Almost single-handedly, CA Nachi batters the Allied CL/DD TF.

Attachment (1)

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 2607

RE: Notes from a Small Island - 9/1/2018 5:42:14 AM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

1/8/45

Sapporo: There's something especially distasteful about suffering at the hands of mini-subs. It also seems that the Louisville TF is out in the open during daylight hours (or has daylight movement happened yet?).

Attachment (2)

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 2608

RE: Notes from a Small Island - 9/1/2018 5:44:25 AM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

1/8/45

Sapporo: So there's something extra-satisfying in dealing effectively with an SSX.

Attachment (1)

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 2609

RE: Notes from a Small Island - 9/1/2018 5:47:40 AM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

1/8/45

Death Star: Enemy MTBs collide with a Death Star combat TF.

Take note of all the enemy subs behind DS. To this point, the Allies have really hammered IJN subs. Erik has lost a lot of them. Allied ASW and ASW doctrine has worked very well, thus far. There is always a chance of mishap, but this may also be a chance to seriously reduce whatever Erik has left.