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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 8/27/2018 12:57:38 PM   
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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 8/27/2018 1:00:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		The 17th Tank Regiment, complete with Type 1 Medium tanks, arrived yesterday but elected to stay in reserve no pursuit mode while the Stuart Tank reinforced Allies mauled the 65th brigade, knocking forts down to 2. But today the 17th Tank assumes defensive positions and the IJA holds their own.

Some 15cm ART only 45 miles away, plus a strong brigade (325 AV) is marching here from the beaches. Will they make it in time?






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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 8/27/2018 1:03:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Soviets are pushing hard thru China where they sent tanks, and also attempting to cut Manchuko off from China...there is potentially a big tank battle here on the morrow with the 1st Tank Division seeing combat for the first time. The 2nd Tank is 45 miles away and the IJA looks to deliver some strong counterattacks.

The Chinese are infiltrating everywhere.

Cam Ranh Bay sees substantial Allied reinforcements and won't hold.

These are the days that try Japan's soul. Outnumbered everywhere, not enough anything anywhere...


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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 8/27/2018 1:08:18 PM   
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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 8/28/2018 1:23:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is a cautionary tale in that Japan has to destroy the ABDA forces in SRA, prevent supplies from getting to China, and not get involved with Soviets until 1. they are ready and can perform a surprise attack; and 2: some of the better devices have come along like type 1 medium tanks, Tojo, aviation support reinforcements, and Manchuko air forces are built up.

Having said that Obvert is outplaying me on every level. That he could get such a heavy LRCAP from land based air over his carriers & my CAP utterly under performing crushed me in the last carrier battle. Never recovered.

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 8/29/2018 11:46:04 AM   
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Balikpapen invaded...ABDA fleet present in all its glory.

Soviets have 4 tank units here of unknown size...well, the Nicks strafe them, and then some Sallies bomb them. Tojo's are overwatching, and laying in ambush in dug in positions is the 1st Tank Division,with the 2nd Tank Division heading in in reserve pursuit mode.

I expect a cataclysmic armor clash here at Tolun this afternoon...




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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 8/29/2018 12:00:57 PM   
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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 8/29/2018 12:02:03 PM   
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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 8/29/2018 12:16:39 PM   
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Ground combat at Tolun (98,36)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 2892 troops, 17 guns, 409 vehicles, Assault Value = 209

Defending force 18703 troops, 255 guns, 832 vehicles, Assault Value = 717

Allied adjusted assault: 71

Japanese adjusted defense: 1381

Allied assault odds: 1 to 19 (fort level 1)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
430 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 38 disabled

Allied ground losses:
93 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 55 (9 destroyed, 46 disabled)

Assaulting units:
205th Tank Brigade
33rd Tank Battalion
82nd Tank Battalion
3rd Mongolian Tank Regiment

Defending units:
7th Manchukuo Cav Brigade
1st Tank Division
2nd Tank Division
29th Ind Engineer Regiment
5th Air Defense AA Regiment
51st Const Co
48th Field Const Co
52nd Const Co
49th Const Co





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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 8/29/2018 12:19:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: adarbrauner

The actions in China and Manchuria +Philippines are all clearly meant to divert your attention and disperse your forces from this one specific;


If I couldn't take Singapore, Luzon, prevent Indochina and Palembang from being over run, what makes you think I could defend Balikpapen?

It was game over a long, long time ago....

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 8/29/2018 5:22:10 PM   
adarbrauner

 

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for sure you managed to extricate a good part of them, and had some months to reconstitute; they ain't good as they were but still, where are them, they don't cost PPs...

what did he invade Balik with?

Could you elaborate a risky, desperate, defense and counter attack plan?

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 8/30/2018 2:17:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		3-1 attack here shatters the tank regiment, the 15cm artillery is 36 miles into their march to reinforce, and the 65th brigade is still three days away...forts knocked down to 1.

Looks grim here.

Can't catch Soviet tanks in western Manchuko.

The Soviets have another heavy push coming out of China...Soviet tanks and motorcycle corp shatter a tank regiment there.

Balikpapen invasion continuing to drop troops and bombard.






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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 8/30/2018 2:20:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: adarbrauner

the good divisions of the 25th Army, which had been destroyed in southern Malaya; where are there now?

for sure you managed to extricate a good part of them, and had some months to reconstitute; they ain't good as they were but still, where are them, they don't cost PPs...

what did he invade Balik with?

Could you elaborate a risky, desperate, defense and counter attack plan?


There is still a lot of troops north of Singers. Most haven't been evacuated.

Rebuilt troops seem to need PP to repurchase.

Ground combat at Balikpapan (64,97)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3412 troops, 48 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 302

Defending force 6430 troops, 61 guns, 28 vehicles, Assault Value = 70

Assaulting units:
6th KNIL Regiment
32nd Infantry Division
Roodenburg Cdo
Marinier Battalion

Defending units:
8th Tank Rgt /4
30th JNAF AF Unit
6th Field Construction Battalion
21st Air Flotilla /3
2nd Base Force
47th Field AA Battalion
44th Field AA Battalion
20th Port Unit
10th Port Unit
Yokosuka 3rd SNLF /1

There is no possibility of a counter offensive anywhere.





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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 8/30/2018 10:27:53 PM   
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There is no possibility of a counter offensive anywhere.



On the sea, and on the air, yes;

could you wrap up something? the alternative is the opening of negotiations.

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 8/30/2018 10:30:15 PM   
Lowpe


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Status: offline 		Lots of fight left in Japan, even after the economy crashes.

Why negotiate...Obvert is having tons of fun! I am too, but not as much>

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 8/31/2018 3:16:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Lots of fight left in Japan, even after the economy crashes.

Why negotiate...Obvert is having tons of fun! I am too, but not as much>


You are an amazing player!!!

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 8/31/2018 7:17:46 PM   
T Rav

 

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Status: offline 		Concur with Wargmr. Thank you for the unique look of two experienced players dealing with early (Soviet) onset.

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 8/31/2018 8:37:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks guys, got a turn in the inbox, and nothing good will come of it for Japan. I will be a day late in Luzon, Balikpapen will fall, Cam Ranh Bay might fall with a huge number of support troops, Soviets and Chinese will continue to infiltrate.

And the 1st and 2nd Tank Divisions cannot catch the retreating Soviet Armor, and if they do they get so far away from the rail lines...


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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 9/1/2018 2:12:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Lots of bad things happened for Japan...beaten back in Luzon. The 15cm artillery arrives just in time to retreat. Not sure if they came out of reserve no pursuit mode to fight...65th Brigade will now probably be caught in open terrain by marauding Stuarts.

Balikpapen falls...

Last port on Malaya falls...

Cam Ranh Bay holds but forts knocked down...

Lots of Soviet attacks in western Manchuko...they are here in strength. More Japanese units cut off

2nd Tank Division runs pell mell into 14 Soviet units. 1st Tank on their way...plus other. We will see how the Type 1 Medium tank can hold up.

More later...

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 9/4/2018 2:37:39 PM   
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1st and 2nd Tank Divisions will launch an attack against a Soviet Corp backed with depeleted armor but full artillery here...time to see how well the Type 1 Medium Tanks can do.

Cam Ranh Bay survives another deliberate attack...Allies pushing forward on Luzon, and ABDA fleet approaching Manado...




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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 9/4/2018 5:01:03 PM   
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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 9/5/2018 12:53:07 PM   
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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 9/5/2018 9:57:59 PM   
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To the west the Soviet push is all tank units including divisions...pretty classic lawrence of arabia stuff, here, massive Soviet armored columns coming out of the Gobi Desert backed with hordes of Chinese. I don't have anywhere near the number of units to stop them.

Here, Japan is attempting an encirclement but very doubtful I can pull it off.

Japanese armor does very well...




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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 9/5/2018 10:00:30 PM   
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Ground combat at 98,35 (near Tolun)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 15284 troops, 225 guns, 814 vehicles, Assault Value = 659

Defending force 31247 troops, 379 guns, 479 vehicles, Assault Value = 743

Japanese adjusted assault: 310

Allied adjusted defense: 1393

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 4

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
887 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 92 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 20 disabled
Guns lost 20 (1 destroyed, 19 disabled)
Vehicles lost 46 (4 destroyed, 42 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 61 (21 destroyed, 40 disabled)

Assaulting units:
1st Tank Division
2nd Tank Division
5th Air Defense AA Regiment

Defending units:
82nd Tank Battalion
33rd Tank Battalion
205th Tank Brigade
187th Rifle Division
260th Rifle Brigade
3rd Mongolian Tank Regiment
32nd VVS Base Force
Trans Baikal Front
46th/302nd AA Battalion
147th PVO AA Battalion
82nd VVS Base Force
129th Engineer Battalion
102nd Engineer Battalion
84th VVS Base Force

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 9/5/2018 10:04:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Another tank attack a little further to the west...heavy artillery for Japan so important.

Ground combat at Tatung (93,37)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 18657 troops, 261 guns, 1939 vehicles, Assault Value = 1085

Defending force 16836 troops, 121 guns, 120 vehicles, Assault Value = 515

Allied adjusted assault: 717

Japanese adjusted defense: 529

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 2)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), op mode(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
518 casualties reported
Squads: 37 destroyed, 60 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
172 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 31 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 69 (4 destroyed, 65 disabled)

Assaulting units:
111th Tank Division
61st Tank Division
70th Tank Battalion
171st Tank Brigade
9th Armored Car Brigade

Defending units:
4th NCPC Infantry Brigade
138th Infantry Regiment
11th Tank Regiment
15th Ind.Mixed Brigade
24th/A Division
6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 9/5/2018 10:05:23 PM   
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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 9/5/2018 10:32:06 PM   
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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 9/6/2018 12:31:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Not much land here...




I had forgotten about that! It is land, just use the '1' hotkey.

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 9/7/2018 7:23:51 PM   
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IJA wipes out an American tank unit...Stuarts I think. Feels good. We strafed them first, then bombarded them, and finally attacked. Really, nothing to get excited about as the tanks pursued ill advisedly and could not be supported by the rest of the Allied forces on Luzon.

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 12378 troops, 109 guns, 59 vehicles, Assault Value = 310

Defending force 43 troops, 0 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Japanese adjusted assault: 276

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 276 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), preparation(-)
experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 10 (10 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
65th Brigade
21st Ind Engineer Regiment
3rd Ind Engineer Regiment
48th/A Division
6th Naval Construction Battalion
7th Port Unit
56th Const Co
4th Field Construction Battalion
14th Army
13th Air Flotilla
17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
48th Field AA Battalion
52nd Div /4

Defending units:
194th Tank Battalion

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 9/7/2018 8:50:32 PM   
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Really, nothing to get excited about


It's a victory! Take it!!

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