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Campaign Pic - 7/31/2018 12:23:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		The new attack front is possible because I now have positive trucks, and I have pushed my rail heads close to the front.

The weakest point on the enemy MLR in the south is the salient around the Dnepr west of Cherkassy. I intend to continue to focus in that area to get around Kiev in the event I cannot force it from across the river.

Near Odessa, the last river complex is mostly forced, and the march west should resume this turn.

It is unclear how much strength the enemy can put to the Smolensk defense. I will push as hard as possible and threaten advances to the south, west, and north.






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RE: Campaign Pic - 8/15/2018 7:22:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't ever recall seeing an 83rd Army before. You may have set some kind of record there.

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RE: Campaign Pic - 8/30/2018 3:17:29 PM   
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I don't ever recall seeing an 83rd Army before. You may have set some kind of record there.



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last we heard - 8/30/2018 3:19:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		I was actually making some progress in the game...

real life seems to have exerted dominance quite a bit this summer...

Here is an update

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Turn 165 August 10, 1944 - 8/30/2018 3:21:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		VP 188
Trucks 193 (222) -25 from last turn
AP Usage - Still replacing infantry army commanders

The last three or so turns have seen the Germans conduct several planned retreats
but leave salient along their MLR which the Reds have worked to exploit

1. The German Dnepr defenses along Kiev area have turned back three successive attempts to force the river just south of the city
2. Germany leaves a strategic salient near Cherkassy on the lower Dnepr and the Russians exploit that by capturing 8 divisions and three brigades
3. Russians move armor and mech facing Kiev south initially to exploit salient / Korsun pocket. Thereafter the continue to migrate south on two successive
turns creating the largest panzer ball I have ever utilized - to great effect
4. This turn the Russian panzer ball exploits a relative weakness in the enemy MLR near Odessa, and pour through creating a major break, including
surrounding another dozen divisions
5. West of Gomel, Russian infantry force the Desna / Sudost Rivers and push due west before enemy withdrawals to the next river
6. The Smolensk attack continues its push and has reached the city on the SE side of the Dnepr. This past turn the Dnepr east of Smolensk was forced. 5 more armies are on the way to that campaign


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Campaign Map - 8/30/2018 3:47:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		The last few turns have seen relative Russian successes.






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General War Plan - 8/30/2018 4:01:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		To reiterate the general war plan through end of Summer 44 Season

1. Get Romania out of the war as soon as possible
2. Attempt to get Tarnopol by summer season end
3. Push as far towards Minsk as possible
4. Use 4 controlled RR units to keep up with advance - monitor trucks carefully
5. Finish the army commander upgrade effort
6. Continue ground attack and ground support efforts to grind enemy in every hex fought
7. reorganize guard armies to get 5 guard infantry units in all of them

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Turn 166, August 17, 1944 - 9/2/2018 5:20:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		7 more turns in summer campaign

187 VP Odessa falls
Trucks 181 / (176) Whew! Advances have been slower so rails starting to catch up
APs - continue army commander changes - probably complete in 1 or two turns, then onto guard army organization

Eventful turn
1. Germany does not make a fight for surrounded units, and they all are captured. This includes 19 divisions with three being armor and two mech - and 12 more support units
2. Black Sea MLR now rests on Dnester, but no offensive action to push that line, as efforts concentrated on liquidating surrounded units
3. in the 8 hexes along the MLR immediately south of Kiev, the Russians used steamroller tactics, making modest progress. The Reds are now established across the Dnepr all the way to Kiev, and the last of the major Dnepr obstacles south of Kiev are behind them. Better progress should begin to be made.
4. Attempts to open up a Dnepr bridgehead north of Kiev do not succeed
5. Germany significantly reinforced the Smolensk defense with mech and armor, so the relatively weak advance faced tough prospects. a relative weakness in the enemy MLR east of Gomel was exploited instead, though the blitz could not get all the way to the city


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Losses Update - 9/2/2018 5:32:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		It remains to be seen if the cumulative Axis unit losses (34 divisions this combat season) will be important later.






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Map Update - 9/2/2018 5:50:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		The big opportunity at present is to drive into Romania before summer season ends because a number of the enemy's nearby units have been captured. It will be a race these next several turns to see how far the advantage can be exploited before it ends.

Also I will continue to push west from Kiev, attempting to tie down major forces so that the reds can enter Romania this season.






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Rail Update - 9/2/2018 6:03:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Things looking better here. On any given turn Trucks usually are positive, but barely - like this turn.

The 4 controllable rail engineers are on servicing the key advance axes.






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Turn 167 August 24 1944 - 9/9/2018 6:32:31 PM   
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VP 180 (-7) Germany retreats out of Cheringov and Smolensk. Russia assaults Kiev
Trucks 187 / (184) Still walking the tightrope on trucks...
AP Usage - 3 army commanders replaced and STAVKA replaced

Germany executes a planned retreat in many places on the MLR, but the southern front collapses - and Russia reaches the Romanian border

1. Battlefield rapidly evolving. Germans execute a planned retreat behind the Dnepr giving up Cheringov. Gomel is still in his hands, but indications are that he could not complete his retreat, so he is holed up in strength there.
2. Further north, the enemy has pulled back to the line of rough hexes and generally vacated about 4 hexes west from around Smolensk down to Mogiliv.
3. The enemy appears to be transferring more troops south to the hot zone
4. From Kiev down to the Dnester - approx 20 hexes, the Russians reestablished some semblance of steamroller tactics taking about 25 hexes in that area mostly one or two hex depth, including a major battle at Kiev
5. German resistance within 10 or so hexes of the Black sea has been deflated by the recent local unit losses. While the bulk of the Axis forces began setting up at the Romanian border / Prut River,, a delaying force was setup at the Kogilnik river about 5 hexes east of the border. Russian recon identifies this weakness has pushes three armor armies into the area, and reaches the Romanian border
6. The sudden success of the Black sea advance has put the Russians in a serious dilemma. Russian trucks hover at 100% and because of the rapid advance the rail line trace back to connected rail is 20 hexes ---- 15 hexes as the crow flies. I have serious worries about the impact to trucks if I advance any further, but I am worried about losing the opportunity to gain even more ground in Romania

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Romanian Frontier - 9/9/2018 8:40:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here is where the main success occurred. As cited above, since Trucks are hovering around 100% and the rail line is severely lagging back at Odessa due to the rapid advance, I find it difficult to advance further if trucks go negative / < 100% next turn, which is likely.

Anyway that is a problem for the next turn.




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MLR View - 9/9/2018 9:06:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		As previously discussed, the primary Russian effort is the plains south of the Pripyat marshes. Following describes the various efforts.






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Current Strengths - 9/9/2018 9:10:54 PM   
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Armaments and Tank Pools - 9/9/2018 9:15:38 PM   
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Unit Mix - 9/9/2018 9:31:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		No longer making any units. This will be the final mix barring some super strange event

I could opine about the mistakes I have made in unit mix, but that is a post for another time.






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Armor Corps - 9/9/2018 9:33:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		49 Armor corps, including 12 corps made this year to create the Smolensk Armor Group.

Note the low TOEs --- many still upsizing from 44 TOE upgrade which I didn't plan for right.








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Infantry Corps - 9/9/2018 9:39:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here are the top 100 or so INF corps. Note the higher TOE%






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Mech Corps - 9/9/2018 9:41:54 PM   
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Cavalry Corps - 9/9/2018 9:44:14 PM   
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Turn 169 Sepetember 7 1944 - 9/28/2018 6:19:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		4 more turns in Summer 44 season

VP - 178 (Axis evacuate Kishinev and Gomel)
Trucks - 183 / (167) getting better as rail lines catch up
AP usage - disbanded a bunch of AA units and built more rail engineers as needed them in 2nd Baltic and Leningrad fronts. also finished commander replacements

Summary of last two turns:
1. Axis continues graduated retreats mostly in the northern theaters as troops are transferred south
2. Russians force the Danube at its mouth in the high country but are stopped from advancing after losing a series of fights along the river, though Russians are firmly on the west bank there
3. Between the Dnester and Bug, Russian armor finds a weak point and busts the enemy MLR driving to a point SW of Vinnitsa threatening the main MLR west of Kiev
4. The main southern steamroller continued its hard nosed attacks riving west from the Kiev plain. Vinnitsa and Zhitomir are near term targets.
5. West of Smolensk, the enemy has conducted several planned retreats under pressure. The Dnepr curve west of Smolensk was forced in strength and the Reds are poised to drive west towards minsk in strength
6. rail engineers have been fastidiously pushing the rail lines west, and more engineers were built for the northern reaches where I built to few to keep up

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Rail Supply and trucks - 9/28/2018 6:42:52 PM   
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Southern Theater - 9/28/2018 9:00:36 PM   
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RE: Southern Theater - 9/28/2018 10:48:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Stripping away the units and looking at the terrain, it's hard to understand what the purpose of attacking here is, especially with a bunch of tank corps.



You have the Danube with multiple channels, with all these swamp and rough hexes. Unless it was largely devoid of units, that is an area which can easily be left alone.

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RE: Southern Theater - 9/29/2018 4:48:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Good point

I am remiss in providing the reasons why I did what I did.

In the Black Sea zone several turns back a sizable enemy force was surrounded and captured
In the ensuing turns the exploitation far exceeded the supply line
Units were low on supply and high fatigue, and I have been nursing poor trucks
I held them at rest near their intended crossing at the Prut just north of the city grouping
The enemy rightly strengthened this sector to the point when this turn there was enough supply to attack it was problematic. I estimated that I would only get two or so hexes.
Because I didn't expect a huge success on the north side of the Danube, I sought other places to attack.
The south side of the Danube was far weaker held and in range. I opted for that attack.

Ironically I got the exact penetration that I estimated I would on the other side, and now I am the worse for wear because of it. This only would have looked brilliant if I had broken the thin blue line, which I didn't.


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Stripping away the units and looking at the terrain, it's hard to understand what the purpose of attacking here is, especially with a bunch of tank corps.



You have the Danube with multiple channels, with all these swamp and rough hexes. Unless it was largely devoid of units, that is an area which can easily be left alone.



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Northern Theater - 9/29/2018 4:57:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is the secondary front, keeping the enemy honest south of the Pripyat.

The next major decision will be this winter season if to cede Leningrad and Finland or take them out. I am leaning towards leaving them and going for Berlin, if it is all a potential to get there.






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Losses - 9/29/2018 5:05:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am keeping a close eye on AFV losses since the northern three armor armies still are hovering around 6 experience as they were built last winter.

With the majority of AFV losses in the cavalry, it will be important to try to keep them off the line to limit turn attrition losses

It does look like the AFV reserves will deplete by the end of the winter 44-45 season.






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Key Production - 9/29/2018 5:14:34 PM   
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RE: Key Production - 10/1/2018 4:44:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		You seem to have considerable combat power in the form of rifle corps in the area of the Pripet Marshes. What is their purpose? Are you expecting some major attack that would otherwise prevent you from screening this area with rifle divisions and a few tank brigades.



These infantry corps could stay there, or they could be move north to support your move on Minsk. As it is now, your tank and cav corps north of Mogilev are sitting on the front lines taking attrition and fatigue. There is a time to be clever and unpredictable, and there is another when blunt force trauma is your friend.

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