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ORIGINAL: xhoel

Hmm I see. All the border means even the areas that are still playable in WitE?

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How does the new event system works? Is there any chance we get a sneak peak at that?

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ORIGINAL: martinsmit

Yes! Thank you
Did I understand you correctly, in a big campaign, Human vs Human, can optionally enabled battle for the Polar region?

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Not quite - Human vs Human will use the Theatre Box too in the current GC41. For it to be happen we'd need to write a special Human only scenario - which is already possible. Usually official scenarios are always AI compatible but here is an area where I'd personally look to be different - especially a scenario that makes the Balkans on map too. The challenge is finding the time to do the work.

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ORIGINAL: Red Lancer

Haven't posted in a while but thought this might interest you all (and I don't remember mentioning it before).

WitE2 has a new pseudo-unit - the City Fort. The City Fort is a container that can hold large numbers of units in certain hex types to make them more defensible without the limitation of the three counter stacking limit.

Screenshot is from the new version of Vistula to Berlin and shows Budapest.

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ORIGINAL: Red Lancer

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ORIGINAL: xhoel

Hmm I see. All the border means even the areas that are still playable in WitE?

Yes it does. The Karelian Isthmus is no longer 'on map'. We've tried to balance adding complexity (air and logistics spring to mind) with removing some areas where the effort is disproportionate. A very good example is the new Garrison Theatre Box - no longer does an axis player need to spend time and effort playing partisan wack-a-mole but there is still a need to devote troops to rear area security.

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How does the new event system works? Is there any chance we get a sneak peak at that?

Hold on - let me grab some suitable screenshots and I'll do my best to explain how the system adds huge variability to the game.

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ORIGINAL: Red Lancer

Xhoel asked for some detail on the Event System.

This is probably the biggest change in WitE2 from the earlier games of this lineage. For a scenario designer like me it adds the ability to introduce unparalleled flexibility and variation to the game whilst also giving the ability to keep a scenario on track.

The system allows a range of actions to be set ( e.g. units unfreezing, multipliers changing) to occurrences in the games (locations captured, time reached). An example is D-Day triggering increased combat intensity in the Western Theatre Box which will encourage the Axis player to send units West. The system allows a probability to be set too so occurrence is not scripted to a given turn.

As the recent discussion has focused on Finland the screenshot shows the events related to the Finland Campaign from the editor and shows how the ability to have the Finns participate on the map has not been lost.

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An interface question: the text of town names is somewhat difficult to read. Would it be possible to use a font with an outline?

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I'm guessing the Garrison Theater Box will resemble the garrison requirements that are currently present in WitW?

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ORIGINAL: Red Lancer

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I'm guessing the Garrison Theater Box will resemble the garrison requirements that are currently present in WitW?

Not really like WitW - it is even simpler as the units are moved off map to a Garrison Box where you need sufficient CV to suppress partisan activity.

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ORIGINAL: Red Lancer

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I'm guessing the Garrison Theater Box will resemble the garrison requirements that are currently present in WitW?

Not really like WitW - it is even simpler as the units are moved off map to a Garrison Box where you need sufficient CV to suppress partisan activity.

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ORIGINAL: daretti

Will it be possible to fight also on the Western Front?

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ORIGINAL: daretti

that is, you will not be able to fight directly but you can decide which units to come east from west or send back to the west?

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ORIGINAL: Red Lancer

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ORIGINAL: daretti

that is, you will not be able to fight directly but you can decide which units to come east from west or send back to the west?

Yes - and the events system links to this too - so when an event like D-Day happens the factors in the Western Front Box change and you'll need either to react accordingly or accept the price of not doing so.

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ORIGINAL: Joel Billings

Lack of required troops can cause loss of VPs, loss of Admin points, and/or speed up in future events in the same theater. Events can change level of combat in a Theater Box (TB), which impacts losses to the units in that TB. So if you don't garrison Western Europe adequately, D-Day will likely come sooner, and once D-day happens, combat and losses dramatically increase. Similar things going on in Italy and North Africa. We expect to have 2 ways to play the game, one where TBs are not under player control and movement of units between fronts is also not under player control. The other where players have limited control (limited in that you can't transfer units out if you fall under a minimum in the TB, and it will cost some APs to change a unit's transfer schedule). Still in alpha so still working on a lot of the details, but that's the basic outline.

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PS: have you though of a way to avoid the Axis player of for example: striping all Mountain units from other theaters in exchange for Infantry divisions?

I heard that in WITW, most Axis player would get the Mountain divisions station in the Balkans Theater box (and maybe remove most from the Eastern front?) to get a great advantage in Italy.

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ORIGINAL: Red Lancer

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PS: have you though of a way to avoid the Axis player of for example: striping all Mountain units from other theaters in exchange for Infantry divisions?

I heard that in WITW, most Axis player would get the Mountain divisions station in the Balkans Theater box (and maybe remove most from the Eastern front?) to get a great advantage in Italy.

Is this gamey? What's wrong with using the best troops in the right place?

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ORIGINAL: Skydream2016

I think it s gamey because if game didnt simulate whole Europe you will take best unit to your possesion but if game simulate it like in HOI i dont belive you will not distribute it more like orginal OKW did. so if you are in charge in Italy every mountain unit will be in italy if you are in soviet union every mountain will be on eastern front beacause you know bonus is aplied only with speccific terrain or weather but for side fronts its aplied only basic CV or i am not right?
Its also not realistic because there was some rivaliry between theaters and it was almost impossible to have all elite unit stacioned under one specific theatre.

But in real world i think it can be tragic for germans if they dont have mountain units for example in Yougoslavia, Arctic front or in Italy..

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ORIGINAL: TheLysander

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ORIGINAL: Skydream2016

I think it s gamey because if game didnt simulate whole Europe you will take best unit to your possesion but if game simulate it like in HOI i dont belive you will not distribute it more like orginal OKW did. so if you are in charge in Italy every mountain unit will be in italy if you are in soviet union every mountain will be on eastern front beacause you know bonus is aplied only with speccific terrain or weather but for side fronts its aplied only basic CV or i am not right?
Its also not realistic because there was some rivaliry between theaters and it was almost impossible to have all elite unit stacioned under one specific theatre.

But in real world i think it can be tragic for germans if they dont have mountain units for example in Yougoslavia, Arctic front or in Italy..

I suppose that is a fair enough statement. However you need to think of it from the dev's point of view, how do you balance that then? You could limit the number of mountain divisions in a certain theatre, yet then you would also have to limit other units to avoid stacking using the same logic...

I believe that its not necessarily gamey, its a player who is acting as OKW using the best resources he has available for a given theater and seeing as how he also knows that the ET will not be won and that in 43 there isn't much need for specialised mountain warfare why not bring over the mountain divisions and put them in their optimal combat environment?