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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 10/2/2018 1:49:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Carrier Battle day two was not a carrier battle since I have no planes and my CVs headed west. Instead, there was a series of surface actions. It looks like a pretty even trade. I'm not 100% sure that the Arizona went down but it got knocked bad as did another pre-war US BB. His airpower stuck around and that's how I lost most of my ships.




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 10/2/2018 1:51:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		BTW, the Lexington did not go down. It took one torpedo hit yesterday that did not even set it on fire so that's FOW.

On the Map, my CVs will head to Roti to, hopefully, rendezvous with the Mushashi and shepard it to port for repairs and upgrades. I don't think Scott will come that far west and I have all of my remaining fighters on escort. I have a CA TF in the middle that may make it to Lautran but the airthreat might be too much.

I think Scott is sending transports out towards Boela and I have a CA TF heading that way to see if I can intercept it.




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 10/2/2018 1:52:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oops sorry, that was a very old slide.

Let's hope this is the right one.!




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 10/2/2018 2:58:54 PM   
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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 10/2/2018 5:07:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think that he did. He told me he had one CV group react towards me and one that did not.

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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 10/6/2018 4:03:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		The dust is settled down and it's time to assess. Basically, made no headway in stopping his landings so the Allied push to the oil areas is on. Sooner or later Scott will be in range of bombing the oil fields and then he'll be able to strangle me. But, he's not there yet and we keep sucking liquids out of the ground and sending them off to the HI.

On the other hand, the naval loss balance sheet may well favor me. I lost one CV, one older BB, a CA, a CL and a couple of DDs. It appears that Scott may have lost 2 CVs, a CVL, 3-4 CVEs, an older BB (the score sheet says he lost both the Idaho and the Arizona but I think the Idaho did not go down), and a few DDs. I lost a LOT of planes. So, it's a tactical naval victory for the IJN (under steady attrition) but a strategic victory for the Americans in that they can keep pushing. I'm not sure how long the KB will be out of action restocking on planes and I have a lot of damaged ships that are heading for the yards.




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 10/8/2018 11:49:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		The question of the day is how exactly do you shoot down any of the allied heavy bombers. This was just one raid where I shot down none even though they did not have a fighter escort. If it's not possible that's silly but it is what it is. I just won't waste VP getting my fighters shot down for causing no damage to him.

Any hints?




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 10/8/2018 2:29:02 PM   
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In that line stealth jets has to work pretty fine.

From what I have read anything with cannon should work, but nothing will get better than 1 for 1 losses.

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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 10/8/2018 4:18:28 PM   
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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 10/9/2018 12:27:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		We move into September 1943. Here is the VP chart. Still a very healthy lead for the Empire of Japan. Heavier air losses for me and I have not yet mastered the art of figuring out where to go get replacements. Manila is being turned into a fortress. It's being built to a level 8 fortification and I have an infantry corps there. If I can get it to level 9 I'll build up the airbase/port and make him come and take it or else cede a lot of VP to me.




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 10/9/2018 12:29:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Scott is being aggressive in the DEI. I really don't have too much set to oppose him down here. He's trying to cut off my oil and sooner rather than later he'll be able to bomb Soerebaja and Balikpapan so I'm trying to get as much out of there as I can. My fleet is sidelined right now by a lack of CV protection which is hindered by a lack of replacement planes. But, the good news about him heading down here is that Scott won't have as much time up north strat bombing my cities.




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 10/9/2018 12:31:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		He is also pushing in Bruma. I have not see a significant number of formations yet and he's doing mainly on the back of waves of airpower. I did manage to shoot down a number of Hurrican IIcs and my loss ratio was less than 2-1 which means a victory for me! :) I am going to try to engineer a surprise at Prome. I have two divisions that I don't think he can see and when he starts to move across the river I'll move the divisions in and, if I can time it right, he'll do a shock attack against them when they have not been pummeled by airpower.




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 10/9/2018 9:48:54 PM   
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The question of the day is how exactly do you shoot down any of the allied heavy bombers. This was just one raid where I shot down none even though they did not have a fighter escort. If it's not possible that's silly but it is what it is. I just won't waste VP getting my fighters shot down for causing no damage to him.

Any hints?

Attrition is the word.
On base, you would need lots of AA and durable fighters with cannons. Tojo-IIb has one but it is very inaccurate. Ideally, you need George, Tony-100 or Frank. That 2e fighter I don't remember the name of can also fill the gap some. You may have caused some damage too, look into ops losses.
Off base, you might try to pinpoint 4E base and bomb/bombard it

There are several recent threads on the forum about 4e counters, I've stumbled on one so far
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4433879

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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 10/10/2018 5:47:03 PM   
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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 10/12/2018 11:47:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		When Scott has the day off we can really fly through turns. We just finished Sept. 11 1943. Scott is still pushing in the DEI. He launched one attack at Ambon that did not work. I'm very low on supply there but I think my transport subs may be able to get through so that my prolong things. At the very least, I'm tying down a marine division and he's not able to get to work on the airfield that will put him in range of Balikpappan. He is bombing several targets in the area thus dispersing his air power. He did catch a number of Betties at Koeping and thus is slowing blasting them into smithereens. ON the upside, that's prolonging the fight at Ambon and at Darwin. He's launched three failed assaults there.




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 10/12/2018 11:49:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think he's hit a roadblock in Burma. The allied airpower is just devastating but I have lots of AA at Prome which shot down 7-8 of his heavies and he has not been back. In the north, he sent an Indian brigade to Myitkyina only to have it run into a Japanese armored division. I have lots of planes lurking in Thailand but very low supply. I think I've been living on a shoestring too long in this theater so I'm sending 140,000 supply points from the HI to buck them up.




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 10/12/2018 11:50:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		It was fun to push the Indians back and shake them up a bit. No pursuit for me, too much airpower, but it does help slow him down in this theater. :)




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 10/12/2018 12:45:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'd pull back that armored division south onto the hard road net.
It is a very useful rapid response unit with hardly any strategic value in Myitkyina with considerable risk of being cut off from Burma action

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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 10/12/2018 1:12:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Interesting point. I have another armored division in Lashio. I'm not sure of their worth on the hard road net because I would expect that would the sight of Scott's main push and thus his airpower and I think my armor would melt away fast under a relentless air onslaught. The job of the two armored divisions and the infantry division in Tuyang Gi and in the jungle outside of Madalay is to fall back towards china and contest that road for as long as possible since I have so many VP in China. The armor is also fairly mobile on the secondary roads and will make him commit more forces if he wants to swing around through the north. To defend the Moulmein gap I have two Inf. divisions in Moulmain, one in Rangoon (that will also fall back), and two just outside of Prome looking for an opportunity to ambush him if he crosses the river which are also set to fall back if Scott tries to get behind them. There are Thai divisions in Prome, Swebo, and Pegu who have the job of holding their hexes for just a few turns should the allies come.

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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 10/12/2018 4:27:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		Half of Burma is nonclear terrain, so Allies will have much harder time bombing tanks. I'd also never commit them to clear terrain battles unless a shock attack against some beaten up bridgehead, and make transits through clear terrain fast and covered by CAP. Given that tanks are indispensable at providing quick reinforcements and catching allied shock attacks across rivers.
Goes without saying that tanks should be accompanied by AA

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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 10/13/2018 11:57:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		You're spot on about committing them in clear terrain. Without air superiority tanks melt away like a candle held up to a blowtorch. I just need to find mobile AA to keep up with them. The Empire of Japan is not blessed with enough AA guns, at least in my humble opinion. Time to comb through Manchuria!!

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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 10/13/2018 6:01:26 PM   
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From what I have read anything with cannon should work, but nothing will get better than 1 for 1 losses.


Nicks are your best early on if there is no escort. Otherwise A6M, and losses will be high.
George will do well when you get it and that is a reason for people to RnD those hard.


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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 10/15/2018 1:40:02 PM   
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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 10/18/2018 12:49:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		We have made it into October 1943 and there is action in both Burma and the DEI. First, Burma. I'm sensing a shift in the initiative. I've managed to move significant fighter assets into Burma and put some heavy attrition on the Hurricane IIIc fleet. Scott has lost more than 35-40 of them in the past three days and I've taken losses (say about 25-30) but not quite that high. In A, you ca see the four airfields that are supporting each other with large fighter formations including my first batch of Georges. Oddly, his P-40Ks have disappeared from this theater as have the P 38s. I'm sure they'll be back soon.

But, I've also move a lot of flak into Mandalay that has shot down 10 SBDs in the past two days as well. This has stopped his bombing runs for now. And, this has opened up a possibility. I'm massing to Inf. divisions and an armored division in Mandalay that will cross the river and, I think, retake Sewbo. Intl just has a brigade plus support troops in that hex.

B is a new unit that popped up and is heading across the river. I am moving two divisions from the hex Southwest of Prome that should be able to travel up the jungle road unseen and pounce on him when he's across the river. Also, once he's across the river I'll start bombing him if my fighter strength can hold up. Meanwhile, there is a stalemate at Prome. Moving my two divisions from the C area to the B area is a risk if Scott comes across the river but he does risk defeat in detail.

He is finally crossing the Ramree Island which is where he needs to build up a fighter base to get into the towns of Southern Burma and retake Rangoon. All in all, I do have a good chance to push back this 1943 invasion. Interestingly the Australian divisions have not yet reappeared.




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 10/18/2018 12:53:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		Meanwhile, Scott continues to push into the DEI. But, he's been stymied a bit at Ambon. He landed there in early September and I've managed to hold the base for more than a month. He has not taken too many casualties but I'm now holding down a Marine division and at least three regiment/brigades. The secret has been a bucket brigade of my supply subs. Each one can carry 40 supply points and I have at least 7 of them running between Manado and Ambon. There is nothing in Manado except a pile of about 800 supply points but ambon still has fuel. So, my boys load up at Manado then drop off supplies at Ambon and refuel. I'm not sure Scott can see these guys because I've been doing it for awhile.

Scott has taken some other bases and has whittled down the supply stockpile at Darwin. He has not yet taken advantage of my biggest mistake down here which is to not have a garrison at Kendari. It's already a level 4 airfield and would put his fighters in easy reach of Balikpapan and basically ruin those oilfields in short order.




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 10/18/2018 12:56:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		And speaking of Balikpapan, here is the situation there. I've been sucking oil and fuel out of there as fast as possible and he's been sending in surface raiding TFs of a couple of DDs or a CA and three DDs. So far we've basically traded some DD losses and he has not gotten to my TK convoys. I'm not sure how long I can keep this oil field open but everything I get out of there and tarakan right now is a plus.

As a side note, his subs have suddenly become much more effective and are avoiding my ASW TFs I wonder if he just got a radar upgrade.




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 10/18/2018 12:59:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		And, last but not least, the VP board for the start of October. Still hanging in there with no major battles going on with the Americans. For the big VP point hexes, Manila is almost to a level 9 fort and I'm building up Saipan and Guam to level 8 since, if he's not going to attack me there for awhile, I might as well make it even more painful for him.

The HI are humming along and I have about 1.8 million supply sitting in Tokyo, 2.2 million HI points and about 4.4 million oil points.




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 10/18/2018 12:52:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh, there they are! I was wondering when the american fighters would show up. :) But, it was not the slaughter of my fighters that I was afraid it would be! Instead it looks like a minor Japanese victory. He lost slightly more planes and a few more VP. If he's not killing me at 2-1, I'm still winning. :)

And, my squadrons are still able to play. He knocked out the airfield at Magwe with waves of heavy bombers. So, I'm pulled back around Mandalay where I have a decent amount of flak. And, squadrons that need a rest go back down to Moulmein. The rail connection is crucial because disabled planes can head south as well and reunite the next day.

So, it looks like another day of aerial fighting ahead!




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 10/18/2018 3:16:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ok, that did not work out so well. My fighters did not really fight and he killed 21 planes on the ground as my AA had very little effect. Funny, when I don't fly CAP his bombers always come in first and then the sweeps and when I do fly CAP his bombers wait for the sweeps.

And, while I'm whining, the subs have really gotten then game on. They've sunk two of my really good E and I've been missing time and again, even in shallow water! My subs have missed their last ten shots or so.

I'd mention that the subs did just miss when they shot at one of my CVs but why interrupt feeling sorry for myself.

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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 10/19/2018 1:34:03 PM   
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I'd mention that the subs did just miss when they shot at one of my CVs but why interrupt feeling sorry for myself.


That is the spirit. :)

You should make similar remark after you sink half his fleet. If that happens of course.

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