Sharana
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Hello, I'm working on scenario involving the newly delivered syrian S-300 and the Israeli Air Force, but I noticed that IDF is not up to date to say at least and I can't make the scenario "realistic" and fun to play without some of the missing assets. Here is a quick list of what is really missing in that scenario: 1) SDB heavy loadout on F-15I and F-16I. Both F-15I and F-16I have loadouts where they can carry 4 Mk-84 bombs. Nothing prevents them from having 4 x 4 each = 16 SDB loadouts. For F-16 that means no drop tanks, but it can still carry enough fuel with the 3rd drop tank under the belly plus the 2 CFTs that the F-16Is have. Here Rafael shows it's weapons and I don't see a reason why all 4 weapon stations can't be with SDB - overkill for dialy use, but useful in special circumstances like the mentioned scenario. F-15 can even carry 20 SDBs without sacrificing it's drop tanks, AAMs and pods (targeting and self defense). 2) The Rafael Shyshield jammer is DECM in the DB while it should be OECM as that's the IAF's escort jammer, it's not for self defense - there is the ELL-8222 pod for self defense that is a lot smaller. Also it's included only in the SEAD loadout of F-16I with HARMs. First of all there are no HARM missiles in Israel, they didn't buy them so their ARM stocks if they do exist are with Shrikes. But that's minor, they wanted to buy HARMs recently. The jammer however can probably be part of other loadouts as well like the strike one in the video below. https://youtu.be/0SCgoKQ0ttM 3) SPICE 250 & SPICE 1000 loadouts. The SPICE 1000 is already in the DB, it's only missing in the loadouts. SPICE-250 is SDB sized bomb (so quad packs), but with EO/IR + GPS/INS allowing it to hit targets even when the GPS signal is jammed (or even the datalink as it can identify the intended target). Also notice the F-16 model above it on the picture (reference for the SDB heavy and SPICE-250 heavy loadouts). http://airrecognition.com/index.php/focus-analysis-photo-report-aviation-defence-industry/aviation-defence-industry-technology/1424-rafaels-spice-250-precision-guided-glide-bomb-undergoing-adaptation-test-on-iafs-fighters.html F-35I should also get 8 SPICE-250 internal loadout. 4) Lynx MLRS with EXTRA missile. IDF developed their own MLRS system called Lynx. It's modular. http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product4244.html The interesting missile that extends the gameplay possibilities is the EXTRA with 150km range as it's actually in service. Each vehicle can hold up to 8 EXTRA (2 x 4). Battery is probably 3x vehicles, same s M270 MLRS. https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/israel/extra.htm The Predator Hawk missile passed trials, but is not yet accepted in service. Can still be added for near future scenarios. It's bigger, so only 2x per vehicle (instead of 8 EXTRA). Here is some data for it: http://www.imisystems.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/PREDATOR-HAWK.pdf 5) Rampage loadout for F-16I Rampage (the last and official name that was also known as Sky Sniper and MARS in the past) is the air launched versio of the EXTRA missile for LYNX MLRS. 2x or 4x per F-16I. No data on F-15I at this point. https://youtu.be/LOdNhe8Y-sA https://www.janes.com/article/81210/iai-imi-unveil-rampage-stand-off-air-to-surface-missile http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/21448/israel-turns-artillery-rocket-into-supersonic-rampage-air-launched-stand-off-weapon 6) DECM pods in the F-15I and F-16I loadouts. Their main self defense pod is the ELL-8222 - small enough and can be mounted instead of Python 9 missile for WVR combat. http://www.iai.co.il/Sip_Storage//FILES/4/41414.pdf http://www.iai.co.il/sip_storage/files/7/27537.pdf For F-15 it's mounted here (not taking place of any weapon): 7) ELL-8270 towed decoy To further enchance survivability against SAMs or AAMs there is also towed decoy. In the mentioned scenario that I'm trying to build using towed decoy to furhet enchance the survivability of the planes makes a lot of sense as other aircrafts that use towed decoys perform noticably better. https://www.janes.com/article/77720/iai-announces-new-towed-radar-decoy http://www.iai.co.il/2013/34486-48830-en/Groups_ELTA_EltaNumber_Products-ELL.aspx It is equivalent of the AN/ALE-50 towed decoy system: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN/ALE-50_towed_decoy_system 8) SAR package for the UAVs. Those big UAVs don't just have the optical sensors. They also can have radar to detect targets using SAR(synthetic aperture radar) & GMTI on ranges far beyond the optical sensor. Adding that ability is quite important for realistic scenarios. quote:
Eagle can fly for 40 hours at a height of 30,000ft. It can carry 250kg payload and various sensors such as MPR (maritime patrol radar), SAR (synthetic aperture radar) / MTI (moving target indicator), EO (electro-optics) / IR (infra-red) payloads, SIGINT (signal intelligence), COMINT (communication intelligence), laser designator and communications relays. Heron TP, also called Eitan, can carry multiple payloads and perform multiple missions such as COMINT, SIGINT and IMINT (image intelligence) or SAR and communications relay. https://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/heron-uav/ Here are examples of IAI made SAR radars including for UAVs: http://www.iai.co.il/2013/36669-en/BusinessAreas_ISRSystems.aspx http://www.iai.co.il/Sip_Storage//FILES/9/41449.pdf 9) Harop UCAV Harpy and Harop are already in the DB. That's the "suicide" UAVs, one of which even killed a Pantsir in Syria recently. The problem with them in the CMANO logic is that they are useless - they are threated as "weapon" and after the launch they simply fly high and in a straight line making them very easy target for any kind of SAMs. In reality that's UAV and you can control it in order to pick optimal route and height in order to increase survivability. As such you should add the option to set waypoints (in flight also) and control the height. Making them controlable will enchance the gameplay as they offer some very interesting possibilities. Also the launchers contain 9 UCAVs which should be fixed in the DB: 10) F-35 OECM. Not really IAF related, but the AESA radars are supposed to offer some nice jamming capability. Something like the situation shown on the picture below is not possible with the current CMANO logic where the radars can't be used as jammers while that opens a lot more tactical possibilities.
< Message edited by Sharana -- 10/31/2018 9:26:00 PM >
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