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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 11/7/2018 10:34:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's the Mahan doctrine but for air power, which is itself just a restatement of a gazillion other military theorists on the concentration of power vs. splitting it.

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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 11/7/2018 11:38:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Erik sent a courtesy note that he's still mulling over this turn - that it might be a few more days before he sends it. He mentioned something vague about evaluating things or taking stock of things. I don't know if something happened that has him muttering dark things, if he's trying to take stock of the overall situation, or if it's something else. You'll know when I do (or perhaps before, if he's addressing it in his AAR).

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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 11/8/2018 12:30:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		In the main forum Nemo reappeared and after some discussion, indicated he was interested in looking at some late-game PBEMs from the Japanese side. One of the AARs suggested to him was Obvert's. There could be some "collusion" going on!

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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 11/8/2018 3:03:11 AM   
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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 11/8/2018 6:21:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		You should try NF in LRCAP role to support your Night bombers. We do know the NFs work in CAP role. And those equipped with radar should at least disrupt enemy NF force. This would however work only on short range.

Night bombing even if limited to 50 bombers per target can affect enemy air unit morale - even without single plane destroyed. Being bombed at airfield isn't good for daylight fighter jockeys :) Targeting airfields on Hokkaido each night will eventually drive enemy air unit morale down.

Do not hesitate to use British night bombers in the role - they are lightly armed for daylight fight anyway and usually carried more bombs than their daylight counterparts (hint here - look for UK planes in BLACK underside camouflage and "B." in name - those white with "GR." are really a Naval Search/ASW Coastal Command type planes).

BTW.. to decrease your fighter ops losses in the current fight - you should fly shortest possible range, not long range sweeps. Even few squadrons based on Wakkanai/Kushiro sweeping enemy CAP would suffer less losses to OPS than the same squadrons flying all the way from Shikuka/Toyohara.

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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 11/8/2018 7:24:50 PM   
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Three days, no turn. That's hard, so I've filled the time by auditioning for The Nutcracker. I'm aiming for the role of the guy who wears tights and prances about the stage.

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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 11/8/2018 7:51:16 PM   
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Still no word from Erik.

Three days, no turn. That's hard, so I've filled the time by auditioning for The Nutcracker. I'm aiming for the role of the guy who wears tights and prances about the stage.



THE guy?

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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 11/8/2018 8:04:47 PM   
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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 11/8/2018 9:34:17 PM   
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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 11/9/2018 2:00:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Erik sent the turn yesterday evening but offered no explanation as to what had prompted him to push the pause button for a few days. I'll run the turn today.

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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 11/9/2018 5:57:05 PM   
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Kushiro: Enemy resistance collapsing here.




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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 11/9/2018 6:01:32 PM   
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Contested Hex: Allied sweepers took care of moderately-heavy LRCAP (though Allied LRCAP got involved, to their detriment), allowing the bombers to come in without opposition. The hits scored were decent but not overwhelming. Towards the end, nearly all damaged inflicted was "destroying" units (not just disabling them). But more than half of the Japanese army clears the hex by turn's end. So the week-long air battle over this hex is winding down. Allied bombers pounded the Japanese army into submission (no assault values left for any of the units) but failed to destroy the units.

Overall, I'm disappointed the Superforts didn't manage to demolish the enemy army, but if Erik is persuaded to withdraw from Bihoro without turning it into a siege, the air campaign probably played a big role in that decision.




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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 11/9/2018 6:04:42 PM   
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Bihoro: Allied bombardment here decidedly counterproductive, probably due to lack of arty and armor. I'm a bit concerned this will encourage Erik to make a stand here, but you can see from unit AVs that the Japanese army is pretty weak. I should know in a day or two what Erik will do.






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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 11/9/2018 6:08:50 PM   
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NoPac: The plan is to continue applying pressure at Bihoro in hopes of persuading Erik (if he needs persuading) to withdraw. I should know in a day or two, because if he intends to make a stand here, he has to bring in fresh troops. If he goes that way, I think I'll fight for the base, even though that will take a lot of time and entails exposing Allied units to air attack under unfavorable conditions. If he does withdraw, the shape of the campaigns in NoPac will change greatly, as the Allies shift to the Kuriles while simultaneously preparing armies for medium-term objectives elsewhere.






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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 11/9/2018 7:29:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		If she or someone like her is dancing around the stage with you, then I don't blame you for wanting to prance around the stage. She is doing something that is impossible for me to do and I would be in extreme agony if I tried to dance like that on the stage - or anywhere else. Besides, I would not look good dressed like that!

Back to the game, at least you won the open hex battle and have rendered ineffective those units there. A few naval bombardments might encourage him to leave. But I am sure that your navy will be busy elsewhere. Also, he has the kamikazes now that you have Kushiro.

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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 11/10/2018 11:35:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		Small question for Dan, I was looking for the name of the AAR where I think you were playing John, and you
opened in China with smashing IJA divisions. I want to take a quick look back as I remember you had a couple
of maps posted. I'm teaching someone new to the game and want to show him this and Lowpe's AAR on
some varying approaches to the AO. I gave him Alfreds China defense post as well.

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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 11/10/2018 12:13:04 PM   
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In My Humble Opinion ...the success in China was due to many things, not the least of which was supply. Lots of it and he ability to deliver it where it was needed. It came from the Big Blue Fleet and it came from Burma. Once the Chinese upgraded all their divisions to 1943 squads the steamroller was unstoppable

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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 11/10/2018 12:44:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		John Dilworth provided the link to my game with John III, but I think Zulu may have confused that game with another. The only Allied success in China early in that game was when John improvidently engaged in shock attacks that beat up a bunch of his divisions, both in China and at Singapore. I don't remember any Allied attacks, though the game did start something like six years ago, so my memory may be fuzzy.

Zulu, good to see you posting.

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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 11/10/2018 2:30:44 PM   
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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 11/10/2018 2:43:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Perhaps those beat-up units that arrived in Bihoro created an overstack and a good naval bombardment could do some damage before they march away to the northwest?

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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 11/10/2018 2:52:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Unfortunately, no. There's no stacking limits in the game and Erik's CD unit is making it hard on even my best BB TFs to score hits. My BBs have been so ineffective that I'm thinking of backing them off to a range for only the BBs to engage, to see if that dampens the effect of the shore guns somewhat.

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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 11/10/2018 3:22:22 PM   
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Bihoro: Back to back bombardments by slow-BB TFs. Not particularly effective. I'm testing different "range" settings - in this case, the Arkansas TF was set to "Escorts Bombard" without any adjustment to range. I believe the NY TF was set to "Escorts Bombard" and then I fiddled with the range setting, lowering it below 6k. The results clearly aren't worth it - and some of these ships probably need dockside repairs or maybe even yard time.






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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 11/10/2018 3:25:42 PM   
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Kushiro: Perhaps the strangest sweep results I've ever seen. Antiquated FM-2s and the earliest generation Corsairs hold their own against the robust, cutting-edge Ki-83s from Toyohara. Altitude might have been a factor - my guys were at something like 6k and 8k.






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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 11/10/2018 3:33:47 PM   
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Bihoro: The 4EB are divided between airfield strike and ground strike. The objectives are two-fold: to discourage Erik from basing fighters here (I'd much rather he rely on LRCAP) and to beat up on his troops enough to (hopefully) give him sufficient reason to withdraw from this base. The bombardments and bombings are fairly effective today, but by no means overwhelming.

Figuring that most of Erik's contested-hex army would leave that hex today and make Bihoro, I switched nearly all sweeps and bombing missions to Bihoro. The sweepers encountered modest defenses and cleared them out before the bombers arrived.

Erik did post serious CAP over the contested hex, where his own bombers roughed up my little units. I had some 2EB set at 1k, thinking they might avoid LRCAP and slow down his remaining units. They accomplished that.





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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 11/10/2018 3:39:14 PM   
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Bihoro: The second of the two large raids focuses solely on the airfield, doing modest damage.

There were a number of other smaller strikes split between airfield and ground troops.

Cumulatively, the naval bombardments and bombings are modestly effective. I'll know soon if Erik intends to make a stand here. If so, he'll post meaningful CAP or LRCAP and bring in reinforcements.




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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 11/10/2018 3:40:14 PM   
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Unfortunately, no. There's no stacking limits in the game and Erik's CD unit is making it hard on even my best BB TFs to score hits. My BBs have been so ineffective that I'm thinking of backing them off to a range for only the BBs to engage, to see if that dampens the effect of the shore guns somewhat.


When this happens, I typically back up to 5K.

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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 11/10/2018 3:50:32 PM   
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Unfortunately, no. There's no stacking limits in the game and Erik's CD unit is making it hard on even my best BB TFs to score hits. My BBs have been so ineffective that I'm thinking of backing them off to a range for only the BBs to engage, to see if that dampens the effect of the shore guns somewhat.


When this happens, I typically back up to 5K.

Should that be 15K?

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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 11/10/2018 3:56:34 PM   
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BB Massachusetts: She took moderately-heavy damage in early '44, before I stepped in effective 3/1/44. She retired to Townsville, staying there until Allied ops in NoPac pulled all of Erik's subs away from SoPac. Then she made the long journey to Pearl. She repaired there rather than at West Coast, electing not to chance the small risk of enemy subs (indeed, no enemy sub has ever been seen anywhere near Hawaii or West Coast). I already had enough BBs in NoPac, and this one served as kind of a "in the bank" reserve, just in case the wheels came off.

She'll go into action fairly soon. I hope she's not an unlucky ship.




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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 11/12/2018 2:04:53 AM   
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Unfortunately, no. There's no stacking limits in the game and Erik's CD unit is making it hard on even my best BB TFs to score hits. My BBs have been so ineffective that I'm thinking of backing them off to a range for only the BBs to engage, to see if that dampens the effect of the shore guns somewhat.


When this happens, I typically back up to 5K.

Should that be 15K?


Nope, I mean 5. It brings the ships out of range of all but the biggest, dedicated CD guns.

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RE: Notes from a Small Island - 11/12/2018 12:16:07 PM   
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Unfortunately, no. There's no stacking limits in the game and Erik's CD unit is making it hard on even my best BB TFs to score hits. My BBs have been so ineffective that I'm thinking of backing them off to a range for only the BBs to engage, to see if that dampens the effect of the shore guns somewhat.


As Loka says, it's worthwhile increasing the range. CD guns on the whole are at best a minor nuisance for bombardment missions. It's a different story during extended amphibious operations once the escorting warships run out of ammo, or in narrow straits where CD guns can absolutely maul transiting ships.


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