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Discount for owners of Classic SC2 Global Conflict? - 12/18/2018 4:04:39 PM   
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My apologies if this has been asked before:
I purchased the original SC2 Global Conflict Gold and the AoC expansion from Battlefront.
Just wondering if Matrix Games offers any kind of discount to owners of the predecessor game.
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RE: Discount for owners of Classic SC2 Global Conflict? - 12/18/2018 4:50:26 PM   
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There was (and maybe even still is) a discount for owners of the Battlefront version if you want(ed) to purchase the Matrix Classic Re-Release of SC2 Global Conflict Gold / AoD.
But there is no discount for this new game, at least not because of the purchase of the Battlefront Games of the last Game Engine generation.
But that is only my uneducated guess, have to admit that I didn't searched nor asked about this topic.

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RE: Discount for owners of Classic SC2 Global Conflict? - 12/19/2018 12:03:39 AM   
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You seriously want a discount for owning a different game by another company?


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RE: Discount for owners of Classic SC2 Global Conflict? - 12/19/2018 12:09:34 AM   
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lol

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RE: Discount for owners of Classic SC2 Global Conflict? - 12/19/2018 9:20:59 PM   
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No need for lols or sarcastic comments. There is no harm in asking if there is some kind of discount.
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RE: Discount for owners of Classic SC2 Global Conflict? - 12/20/2018 7:07:28 PM   
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No offense taken. :-)
Essentially this is 80% the same as the earlier game. For the first time I am seriously considering not to buy, even though I do support Fury for almost 20 years. What is the essential Value add?
Hexes instead of Squares and a few minor improvement. I am not convinced yet. Your mileage may vary. :-)
Look at what Battlefront recently offer as upgrade path for Shockforce 1 customers. Also an 80% upgrade. That was a fair deal to me.

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RE: Discount for owners of Classic SC2 Global Conflict? - 12/20/2018 7:55:30 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: terry1040

No offense taken. :-)
Essentially this is 80% the same as the earlier game. For the first time I am seriously considering not to buy, even though I do support Fury for almost 20 years. What is the essential Value add?
Hexes instead of Squares and a few minor improvement. I am not convinced yet. Your mileage may vary. :-)
Look at what Battlefront recently offer as upgrade path for Shockforce 1 customers. Also an 80% upgrade. That was a fair deal to me.


Hubert had a post about that. :)

Thanks for the query and if you are new to the SC3 engine and haven't played SC3 Europe at War then there will be quite a few changes, fixes and enhancements from the previous release of Global Conflict. Some of these changes include the following:

A Return to Hexes

Our aim with the Strategic Command series is to make attractive, playable and historical games. Our aim for this release is to make a game that will provide one of the best strategic level re-creations of 20th century warfare, while also being a whole lot of fun to play.
The first and possibly biggest decision for us was to return the series to using hexes rather than tiles. There are pros and cons to both, but it was clear that the majority of those who expressed a preference, preferred hexes, and we didn't disagree. So hexes are back!


Enhanced Decisions

On the European side of the World at War players will now be able to consider the following:

• Both Germany and the USSR get to negotiate carving up of Poland. The subsequent borders will therefore not necessarily follow their historic path.
• An Anglo-French Expedition can be sent to support Finland during the Winter War.
• France can reincorporate Vichy territories following her liberation.
• The UK and USSR can carve up Persia between them, and the USA can then choose whether to send supplies via Persia to the USSR. This can provide a real boost to the Soviet War Effort!

Players can also minimize the Decision box to examine the map further prior to making their final decision and many decisions have additional notes providing any necessary historical context as needed.


Dynamic Movement

A major change that players of our previous titles will immediately notice is the introduction of Dynamic Movement.
Dynamic Movement allows units that haven't used up all their Action Points to continue to move until they have done so, even if de-selected and re-selected again later. It applies to most unit types, and takes much of the pressure out of trying to plan your moves. Just click and play!
Air units can also now attack and then move a portion of their normal move distance. This can be especially useful when on the offensive, or alternatively when conducting a fighting retreat. Again, it provides more flexibility than in the past when air units could only either move, or attack.


Enhanced Fog of War

We have introduced enhanced Fog of War, a shroud over the map, which makes it possible at a glance to see exactly how far your own units can see. While this might sound very simple, it wasn't in our previous releases, and at the same time we have also introduced a specified graphical Front Line that updates dynamically showing clearly who controls what.


Time your Offensives

We now have two types of road, paved and unpaved. The latter predominate in Eastern Europe and provide no bonuses in bad weather, so when the ground is muddy, offensives will slow.


New Research Concepts

One thing we decided to do with the Research feature is to expand it beyond just enhancing unit Attack and Defense values, and increasing economic output.
So we have introduced new research areas that represent improvements in command systems, unit training, military doctrine and logistics. These can for example increase unit morale, spotting ranges, command abilities and allow units to launch extra attacks.


Naval Cruise and other Naval Enhancements

We've introduced two very significant improvements to naval operations.
The first is to speed up naval movement through the introduction of a new movement mode: Naval Cruise.
This enables naval units to travel double their normal movement distance for a strategic move. The penalty being that they lose 1 supply point when doing so, and cruising units cannot attack enemy vessels.
Players of our previous releases will be familiar with Subs having two modes, Hunt and Silent, and Subs can only Cruise when they are in Hunt mode.
The second big change is that we've added a second category of Amphibious Transport for landings on enemy held shores. This new unit type is specifically designed to be used when planning operations against distant shores like Operation Torch, as now amphibious units can sail across the Atlantic from the USA and land in North Africa.
This new unit type, called Amphibious Transport (Long Range), is only available in limited numbers to select countries like the UK and USA, though the number of units available can be increased through researching Amphibious Warfare.


Diplomacy

It is now possible to block diplomacy towards some countries, e.g. the USSR cannot attempt to influence Franco's Spain. We have also introduced the ability to limit investment towards historically neutral countries, so that, for example, only a small diplomatic effort can be made to swing Switzerland towards one side or the other.


Improved AI

The AI has been extensively overhauled, something we do for every release, and especially for Amphibious Assaults which is especially important in Strategic Command WWII - World at War when considering not only Torch, D-Day but also the island hopping campaigns of the Pacific.


Improved Interface

Not only will the game return to hexes and include new and sharper NATO and 3D unit counters, the interface has been overhauled as well to provide a smoother and more intuitive game play experience while optimizing the amount of the game play area on the screen.


Rule Changes

A number of rule changes and game engine enhancements as well as fixes have been made to again improve the overall game play experience. This is possible as each release builds on all of our previous releases and even the fix/change list from SC3 Europe to SC3 World at War (built on the same game engine) will have over 70 fixes/changes included.


Hope this helps,
Hubert

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RE: Discount for owners of Classic SC2 Global Conflict? - 12/20/2018 8:11:25 PM   
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Thanks for the detailed overview. Much appreciated. I did not see this before.

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RE: Discount for owners of Classic SC2 Global Conflict? - 12/20/2018 8:20:37 PM   
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And here some more:

quote:

- supply rule changes:
- subs can no longer dive at 0 supply.
- all raiders can no longer raid at 0 supply.
- defending units at 0 supply will receive 50% more damage from a successful attack against them.
- fighters and carriers cannot intercept/escort when at 0 supply.
- maximum reinforcement points is now 5 strength points per turn for all naval units except Motor Torpedo Boats.
- naval units positioned top of a small island sea enemy hex will no longer be fully revealed under FoW.
- neutral majors can no longer load units onto Amphibious Transports.
- defending subs at zero supply, or defending land units defending from ground attack at zero supply, will now have their morale fully recalculated after any defending strength losses are applied.
- subs will now have a 25% chance of receiving at least a single strength point loss when diving from attack.

We've also added a change to Special Forces, i.e. US Marines and Japanese SNLF which especially help with island hopping in the Pacific. A few other island hopping related changes are listed below here as well:

- Special Forces units, after amphibiously unloading, now maintain supply for up to 5 turns with a drop of 2 supply points per turn.
- minor nation Capitals, Fortresses with 3 or more adjacent enemy units will now have their supply reduced by one strength point per turn.
- Ports no longer provide supply to land units if there is an enemy land unit adjacent to the port.
- abandoned Ports adjacent an enemy City/Town will now switch to enemy control.

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