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RE: 4 player game - 12/18/2018 5:53:06 PM

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HQ support fails.

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RE: 4 player game - 12/18/2018 5:55:27 PM

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Communist Chinese have waited a long time. Now it's time to fight. And they start fighting well!

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RE: 4 player game - 12/18/2018 5:59:42 PM

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USSR does not take Tsitsihar, Japanese dropped their bombs with accuracy.

Japanese must destroy one unit. Which one?

Both sides gets disorganized.

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RE: 4 player game - 12/18/2018 6:18:31 PM

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3-1 Gar, plz

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RE: 4 player game - 12/18/2018 6:35:53 PM

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CW rebase FTR into Egypt.

Turn continues.

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RE: 4 player game - 12/18/2018 9:55:51 PM

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Land: Germany, Japan
Combined: Italy

Naval Air:

Germany:
FTR2 West Med 2-box -> West Med 1-box

Naval Move:

Italy:
CA Zara, TRS Trapani -> West Med 1-box. Load HQI + Inf Div from Tunisa

No Strategi Bombing, No Ground Strike

Rail move:

Italy:
Mot Milan -> 59,26

Japan:
MAR Kweilin -> Tungkwan
HQI Kweilin -> 76,141

Germany:
8-4 MOT (Nantes) -> Krakow
7-4 INF (La Rochelle) -> 56,47 in Hungary
ENG (Nantes) -> Warsaw

Land Movement:

The 7th PARA Division liberate Salonica. The other German forces in Greece concentrate on Athens.

German forces in Hungary continues to move towards Poland, while the forces in France continue to move towards Germany.

Japanese forces move towards the flanking Soviet cavalry.

In Southern Chine the Japanese forces concentrate on the Chinese 20th reserve Army.

Debark:

Italy:
HQI -> La Spezia
Inf Div -> La Spezia

Germany attacks Athens with Italian support.

Picture from Nov/Dec '40 Impulse #12 (Axis) - Land Combat

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RE: 4 player game - 12/18/2018 9:57:50 PM

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Japan attacks the Soviet CAV in Western Manchuria, and the Chinese GARR in SW China.

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RE: 4 player game - 12/18/2018 10:14:30 PM

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Edit: I forgot to post the support provided to the attacks.

The Italian fleet provides 12 points in shore bombardment for the attack on Athens.
The Japanese air force (LND2 + FTR2) provide 3 points in ground support in China.
And Luftwaffe provide 13 points in ground support in Greece.

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The attack on the Soviet CAV, and Athens are automatic.

The attack on the Nationalist GARR is 4:1. Will China select assault or Blitz?

Picture from Nov/Dec '40 Impulse #12 (Axis) - Land Combat

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RE: 4 player game - 12/19/2018 3:33:13 PM

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Japan rolls a 5 on the assault on the Chinese garrison.

Picture from Nov/Dec '40 Impulse #12 (Axis) - Land Combat

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RE: 4 player game - 12/19/2018 4:11:22 PM

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Nov/Dec '40
Impulse #12 (Axis)

Air rebase:

Italy:
LND3 in Kalamai to Naples.
FTR2 in La Spezia to the Paris region.
LND3 on Leros to Athens.

Germany:
LND2 from Tirana to Trieste.
In France: LND2 59,25 -> 59,26
In France: FTR2 61,25 -> 59,25

Japan:
LND2 in Changchun to Changchow.
FTR2 from Kobe to Peking

No reorganization.

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RE: 4 player game - 12/19/2018 4:12:30 PM

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Turn ends.

A 3 was rolled and the turn ended on a 6, or less.

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RE: 4 player game - 12/19/2018 4:23:01 PM

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One partisan appears in Netherlands.

It can be placed in one of the three NE hexes. Where will it be placed?

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RE: 4 player game - 12/19/2018 4:31:09 PM

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Germany place one pact marker in each pool.

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RE: 4 player game - 12/19/2018 4:50:57 PM

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Partisan goes NW of resource on coastal hex.

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RE: 4 player game - 12/19/2018 6:52:03 PM

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USSR marker to defense.

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RE: 4 player game - 12/19/2018 6:55:09 PM

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Destroyed units.

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RE: 4 player game - 12/20/2018 8:07:41 PM

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Nov/Dec '40

Axis end of turn, part one:

Preliminary planning:
Germany - No changes needed - 18 BPs
Italy - No changes needed - 8 BPs
Japan - No changes needed - 16 BPs
Vichy France - No changes needed - 2 BPs

Stay at sea:
The following units stay at sea.

Germany:
4 CPs stay in the Baltic Sea.

Italy:
East Med: CP, 3-Box CA Garabaldi + CA Trieste,
Italian Coast: CP, 3-Box 2 x CA

Japan:
All CPs stay at sea.
China Sea: All that can stay, stay. (They should be on sentry)
Japanese Coast: All that can stay, stay. (They should be on sentry)
Sea of Japan: ALL Surface ships in 4-Box, except CV Soryu, stay. (All that stay should be sentried)
South China Sea: All that can stay, stay. (They should be on sentry)

Return to Base:

Germany:
West Med 1-box FTR2 (He 112) -> Malta

Italy:
West Med 0-box (CP) -> La Spezia
West Med 1-box (CA+TRS) -> Trieste
East Med 0-box (CA+TRS) -> Malta
East Med 2-box (2 x CA) -> La Spezia
East Med 3-box CA Fiume -> Salonica
East Med 3-box (Main battle fleet, except CA Fiume) -> La Spezia

Japan:
Sea of Japan 4-box (CV) -> Fukuoka
China Sea 0-box (NAV3) -> Canton
China Sea 0-box (BB+2xCA+AMPH+2xTRS) -> Fukuoka
Japanese Coast 0-box (NAV2) ->Tokyo
Japanese Coast 0-box (CA) ->Tokyo

Use Oil:

Japan:
All units, except CA Idzumo, and CA Nachi, in Fukuoka, are reorganized for 2 oil (2.4) in Nagoya, and Osaka

Germany:
All units, except MOT and AT (PzJag I), in Krakow, are reorganized for 1 oil (1.4). Use oil in Prague.

Italy:
All units, except MOT (Roma) in France, 2 x CA (Trieste, Garibaldi) in East Med 2-box, and CA (Eugenio Di Savoia) in La Spezia, are reorganized for 2 oil (2.45). Use 1 oil in Milan and 1 in Rome.

Breakdown:
No

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RE: 4 player game - 12/20/2018 8:09:58 PM

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Axis orders, part 2:

Production:
Germany (18):
2 x MIL
2 x MECH
LND2
Pilot

Italy (8):
CP
Pilot
LND3
TERR

Japan (16):
GARR
MIL
TERR
Warlord
CVL (2nd) Chiyoda
Pilot
FTR2
CVP1
CVP0
CP

Vichy France (2):
Save 2 BPs - 1 in Vichy, 1 in Lyons

Conquest:
If the Greek CA is captured, then it is given to Italy.

Factory destruction:

Italy:
The partisan destroy the oil in Burma.

Japan:
Blue factory in Peking is destroyed.

Reinforcements:

Germany:
No annual scraps
FTR2 (Bf 109E-3) -> Hamburg
MTN -> K�nigsberg
Synth Oil -> Prague

Italy:
Scraps LND2 (BA.65)
FTR2 (G.50) -> Genoa

Remove LND3 (Ca.135) in Naples

Japan
Scraps LND3 (Ki-21-I),2 x LND2 (Ki-30 + Ki-32 with 1 in tactical strength)
NAV2 -> Sasebo
CVP1 (D3A1 size 2) -> Fukuoka (on land)
TERR - Tsitsihar
Synth Oil -> Tokyo
Warlord -> Chengtu

Voluntary Resource Lending:

Modified
Germany -> Italy 8 resources, 1 oil

New:
Germany -> Vichy France, 1 turn only, 1 oil

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RE: 4 player game - 12/21/2018 2:44:39 PM

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40 ND EOT begin:
US chooses chit v GE and no USE option. USE is miserably low for end of 40.

Prelim prod:
CH 2BP with 2 saved but only 1 avail. Apparently someone mistakenly placed both BP in Kashgar. 1 rule of MWIF is never place 2 BP in same location since only 1 can be pulled out per production phase. However I think only 2 or 2 are needed this build phase so that's good.

CW prod: 1 res from Rhodesia should be reaching UK but isn't due to MWIF resource routing problems.
Dutch Guyana should be going through C Atl then N Atl and Rhodesia should be going through CSV then N Atl but instead Dutch Guyana is going into CVB and preventing the Rhodesian from passing there). There is also an Indian res that is taking up capacity in C Atl that should be routed through CSV.
Hopefully another of the players will be able to figure out how to correct this to get CW prod up to 18 while still saving 4 oil in UK and 6 oil in Canada. I think it's possible to manually re-route resources but when I try do this the game seems to forget settings I make and revert to the old way anyway.

US produce 10, 8 saved = 18 BP

SU produce 12+2GE = 14 and save 5 oil.

Stay at sea:
1 CW ship remains at sea BoB, FG, N Sea, N Atl, USEC, CSV, CVB

RTB:
SU all SUB to Vlad
FF SUB to Seychelles
CW:
TRS Bay of Bengal to Adelaide
a few CA's to Martinique
Dutch SUB to Antilles (can't stack in Gib due to 1 Greek cp there)
Some CA's return to Martinique and other ships return to Scapa, Liverpool, Plymouth, Gib

Instructions for other EOT for W-Allies:
Use oil:
CW reorg all using 3 Damascus oil, Churchill, Estevan, Halifax

no breakdowns

scraps: scrap Greek INF
prod:
CH 3 BP build GAR save 1
CW 14 BP scrap Nelson BB, 3xSwordfish cvp
INF, MIL, AMPH[fd], TRS[fd], BB[fd], PIL, cvp
US 18 BP TRS[fd], BB-Indiana[fu], 5 cp save 6

Start of JF 41 scraps and reinf:
CH no scraps
5-3 to Kunming

CW scrap Can SUB, 2-4AA, 3-4ART, 2xHampden
Air reserve: Beaufort, Gladiator cvp
Aus MOT -> Adelaide, Fort -> Gib facing Spain, cvp -> Victorious in Liverpool, NAV3 -> Belfast
Remove air: Hurricane from London

US scrap 5 cvp, 5-6 MECH
air reserves: Catalina, Devastator TBD
cp -> Norfolk, Devastator -> Norfolk, Catalina -> San Diego

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RE: 4 player game - 12/22/2018 7:12:04 PM

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Free France reorg their submarine.

USSR reorg all but subs for 2,4 oil.

USSR saves 5 oils and produces 13 BPs.

Production
2x INF
MTN div
MIL
LND2
save 1 BP

Free France gets CA from Greece

Reinforcements

Pilot to TB-3 -> Sevastopol
2x INF to Murmansk
INF to Vitebsk

Allies win initiative 5-1 and choose to go first.

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RE: 4 player game - 12/23/2018 6:55:14 PM

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41 JF game i1 and game update

It now looks of course like the Euro-Axis have completely pivoted and are headed for a Barb 41 after calling Vichy. N. Africa is no longer a likely target, nor is Egypt, nor a Sealion. JP is too heavily involved with China and SU to go for an early DOW vs CW. China was in a bad position and it has only gotten worse. China should have left the 2-4 CAV near Kunming - sending it north was a bad move in hindsight. Late SU DOW has helped a little but it was too late for China.

CW now has to decide how to prioritize its' activities with a view to the coming war between SU & GE. Some long range plans have been laid and CW builds will align to those plans. The short term goal is of course to protect convoy lines during the winter when it's likely the Kriegsmarine may try to raid Britain's merchant shipping. Because an attack on Spain or N. Africa looked possible most of the CW production for the last 6 months has been defensive but now it's time to begin to build some offensive tools.

USE is not good. No lending to SU can be picked, the Burma road still can't be re-opened, and US still has a few turns at least until gear-up - likely it'll be mid-41. US is embarked on a naval build program that should pay dividends in 43 but not sooner.

A strategy to deal with Vichy France also has to be decided on and allied planners are working on drawing up some possible plans for that.

Now for the impulse.
SU land
CW naval

Naval moves:
US 3 SUBs leave Midway and sail east into various sz's closer to Pearl.
FF SUB leaves Seychelles to sail around Cape
CW
Various escort ships sailed - too many to list easily
TRS from Plymouth carries Gort to W Africa where Queens picks up and continues toward S.A.
Eagle makes it way around Cape slowly.
TRS carries Aus MOT to Mozambique Ch
BB+CV TF sails into BoB

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RE: 4 player game - 12/23/2018 8:38:39 PM

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USSR ground strikes Tsitsihar with 2 bombers and Korean TERR with one bomber.

Japan can intercept bomber in Korea with CVP, but there is USSR fighter in range.

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RE: 4 player game - 12/23/2018 8:45:35 PM

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Japan intercepts, USSR counter intercepts.

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RE: 4 player game - 12/23/2018 8:49:35 PM

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Japan rolls 6, do you want to abort bomber or fighter?

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RE: 4 player game - 12/23/2018 8:58:37 PM

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Bomber is aborted. No effect for Japanese CVP.

USSR fighter aborts.

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RE: 4 player game - 12/23/2018 9:00:12 PM

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USSR bombing missions were not as good as hoped...

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RE: 4 player game - 12/23/2018 9:25:53 PM

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USSR rail INF from Manchuria to Vitebsk.

Land moves
NatChi reforms line.
ComChi make minor moves.
USSR prepares to attack in Manchuria and another CAV starts flanking from west.

Attack to Tsitsihar is 49:9, half of the attacking units are white printed.
No HQ support.
No ground support.

Japan can send bomber and escort, USSR has fighter in range.