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Maybe a Problem with RIM-116C BkII and MIM-9X after CMA... - 12/28/2018 12:05:28 PM   
rbsj

 

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Status: offline 		Dear Community,

During this hooliday days I was testing some platforms and I came across with a problem regarding both RIM-116C and MIM-9X. Both weapons and their mounts simple don't fire automatically. I thought the problem were the sensors but both were active and I was launching harpoons at their plataforms and they were not firing. If you manually try the CTRL+F1 the message that appears even when the target is inside the weapon range is that the weapon needs to detect the target for it be fired.

Then, after trying out what could I have been doing wrong I decide to setup a test with the same plataforms but with two different DATABASES the actual V476 and the old V474. With both databases in different scenarios I setup an attack with two RGM-84 Harpoons at the Plataform #2512 F 222 Baden-Wurttemberg [Type F125] (Germany), the hour was the same the places were the plataforms were the same, the distance was the same, the plot course was the same, and in both cases the F222 sensors were on. In both cases the F222 detected the Missiles but in DATABASE V476 the RIM-116 didn't automatically fire in self defense and in DATABASE V474 the RIM-116 automatically fire the harpoons and destroyed them.

I didn't make the same controlled experiment but the DB V476 when firing at the plataform Facility #3159 SAM Plt (MML) (United States 2022) with the sensors on the MIM-9X didn't fire automatically in self defence only the MHTK.

Another point is that you can actually fire manually these missiles against incoming missiles but the distance is smaller than 1nm it is only whem the message within the CTRL+F1 is not red anymore regarding detecting the target.

I want to clear out that I have tested this problem with the Weapon Release authorization configured to default, and even when I tested having made changes to the Weapn Release Authorization the plataform didn't behave as expected.

Therefore, I don't exclude that I'm doing something wrong, but in a controlled test with the same conditions and parameters RIM-116 fire well with DB V474 and not fire well with DB V476. I Have tested both things with the same version of COMMAND STEAM v1.14 Build 998.16. Because of the fact that these experiments were made with the same build I think the problem maybe be me or with the DB V476.

Looking for your reply.

My Best Regards,

P.S.: Sorry I'm not an English Native Speaker.

Happy New Year
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RE: Maybe a Problem with RIM-116C BkII and MIM-9X after... - 12/28/2018 8:57:51 PM   
DWReese

 

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From: Miami, Florida
Status: offline 		Do you have a saved game (scenario) of this incident? If so, post it, and I will take a look at it.

In the mean time, you might want to past this message in the Tech Support area just above this section. The devs look to that area to learn of any potential problems that they might need to fix. They might not even see a message like this down here. You might only get the commoners (like the rest of us) to see your message down here. <lol>

It does seem as if you have done lots of testing on it, so it sounds like you are onto something.

Doug

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RE: Maybe a Problem with RIM-116C BkII and MIM-9X after... - 12/29/2018 1:45:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		There was one build- pretty sure it was 1.14.4 also...which changed some missile performance...this was corrected in 1.14.7 if so...your post here says you are using 1.14.4- if that is the case, you definitely should upgrade to the newest 1.14.7 as well.
Good luck

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RE: Maybe a Problem with RIM-116C BkII and MIM-9X after... - 12/29/2018 3:03:30 AM   
FTBSS

 

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Status: offline 		So if I have a CEC capable platform like the latest Hawkeye E-2D should my AMRAAM equipped F-35c be able to fire from beyond visual range without powering up unit radar?

Actually not happening with the Aim 152 long range AAM I don't think the CEC-LOAL change made to the AMRAAM carried over to this missile system.

< Message edited by FTBSS -- 12/29/2018 3:13:11 AM >

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RE: Maybe a Problem with RIM-116C BkII and MIM-9X after... - 1/13/2019 9:43:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		I can't fire teh AIM-152 missile, or AIM-120D or really any air to air missile right now with DB v476. I get the 'Firing unit must obtain (from self or another CEC-enabled platform) a high quality track before firing'. With auto attack my planes close in and only fire AIM-9X's. I've included E-2D and E-3G in testing still nada.

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RE: Maybe a Problem with RIM-116C BkII and MIM-9X after... - 1/24/2019 5:14:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: FTBSS

So if I have a CEC capable platform like the latest Hawkeye E-2D should my AMRAAM equipped F-35c be able to fire from beyond visual range without powering up unit radar?

Actually not happening with the Aim 152 long range AAM I don't think the CEC-LOAL change made to the AMRAAM carried over to this missile system.


How is this related to the OP? New thread and suitable save file, please.

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RE: Maybe a Problem with RIM-116C BkII and MIM-9X after... - 1/24/2019 5:14:58 AM   
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ORIGINAL: gabravo2005
I can't fire teh AIM-152 missile, or AIM-120D or really any air to air missile right now with DB v476. I get the 'Firing unit must obtain (from self or another CEC-enabled platform) a high quality track before firing'. With auto attack my planes close in and only fire AIM-9X's. I've included E-2D and E-3G in testing still nada.


How is this related to the OP? New thread and suitable save file, please.

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