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RE: 4 player game - 12/27/2018 2:20:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		41 JF i13: (continued)
JP GS on TER with ART + LND3. 2 JP planes can intercept, 1 Red Air FTR can counter. Intercept?




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RE: 4 player game - 12/27/2018 2:25:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		The FTR2 intercepts. Stays until the combat is decided. And lands in Mukden.

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RE: 4 player game - 12/27/2018 2:31:55 PM   
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RE: 4 player game - 12/27/2018 2:37:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Destroy the LND3. And then abort to Mukden (if the FTR2 survives, that is).

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RE: 4 player game - 12/27/2018 3:28:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		41 JF i13: (continued)
SU scores nil.

ART misses GS (roll 10)

Rail: SU send Vladivostok MIL to Murmansk

Land moves:
SU:
INF to Minsk
INF south from Pskov to forest
MECH to Harbin
SKI in Persia 1 hex NW along coast
AT near Sevastopol moves N to near D-town
Timoshenko 2 hexes N
ART near Rostov 2 hexes W
A few units shuffle in Manchuria

CH: defense around Kunming contracts
CW: a few units shuffle around in UK

rebase: SU FTR to hex SE of Harbin

Turn ends on a 5

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RE: 4 player game - 12/27/2018 3:38:24 PM   
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RE: 4 player game - 12/27/2018 4:00:15 PM   
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no partis
I took in-game rolls since border chits don't matter anymore. Put 1 SU defense, 1 GE defense, 1 GE offense.

USE chit chosen v GE
USE option 19 res to SU chosen (10 tension rolled no tension chit)
USE option 11 US EC escorts chosen (1 tension chit moved)

SAS:
CW leaves escorts in 4 and 1 boxes at the usual areas: N Atl, USEC, CSV, CVB, FG

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RE: 4 player game - 12/27/2018 6:15:33 PM   
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RE: 4 player game - 12/27/2018 10:11:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Axis end of turn - Part One:

Stay at sea:
The following units stay at sea.

Germany:
4 CPs stay in the Baltic Sea.

Vichy France:
CP stay at sea.

Italy:
East Med: CP, 2-Box CA Garabaldi + CA Trieste,
Italian Coast: CP, 2-Box CA Pola + CA Duca D'Aosta

Japan: (modified to compensate for last end of turn)
All CPs stay at sea.
China Sea: Ships in 4 box stay. (They should really be lowered to the 2-box instead of the 3-box)
Japanese Coast: All ships except CA Chikuma in the 4 box stay. (Does this fix last turns error?)
Sea of Japan: Ships in 4 box stay. (They should really be lowered to the 2-box instead of the 3-box)
South China Sea: All ships except CA Myoko in the 4 box stay. (Does this fix last turns error?)


Return to Base:

Italy:
Italian Coast 2-box (CA+TRS) -> Taranto

Japan:
China Sea 1-box -> Fukuoka
Japanese Coast 4-box -> Tokyo
South China Sea 4-box -> Canton


Use Oil:

Japan:
All units are reorganized for 1 oil (1.3) in Kyoto.

Germany:
All units are reorganized for 0 oil (0.3).

Italy:
All units, except CA Trieste in East Med 1-box, are reorganized for 1 oil (1.4). Use 1 oil in Rome.

Breakdown:
Japan break down the 5 strength INF in Chengtu into one 1-4 INF and one 2-4 MOT

Prod plan Final:
Germany - 27 BPs
- first saved oil resource go to production
- second saved oil resource is saved in Vienna (The Vienna oil should then be changed to Vichy oil to fix the last EOT, although this doesn't need to be done now)
- One saved oil in Berlin is sent to production.

Italy - No changes needed - 11 BPs
Japan - No changes needed - 17 BPs
Vichy France - No changes needed - 4 BPs

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RE: 4 player game - 12/27/2018 10:14:12 PM   
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Production:
Germany (27):
Lend Lease: Transfer LND2 (Stuka) to Italy
INF
MOT
MTN Div
AA
MECH
2 x FTR2
2 x Pilot
Repair CA Admiral Scheer

Italy (11):
MIL
TERR
FTR2
LND2 (transferred from Germany)
Pilot
SUB (2nd)

Japan (17):
GARR
TERR
Pilot
Synth Oil
CV (1st)
CVP1
CVP0

Vichy France (4):
Save 4 BPs - 1 in Vichy, 1 in Lyons, 1 Toulouse, and 1 in Marseilles

Factory destruction:
None

Reinforcements:

Germany:
LND2 (Ju 87B) -> Königsberg
HQA -> Königsberg
MTN Div-> Königsberg
ENG -> Königsberg
Air Div -> Breslau

Italy:
NAV3 -> Genoa

Japan
CP -> Fukuoka
FTR2 (A6M2) -> Kyoto
TERR - Mukden
ARM -> Fukuoka
GARR -> Fukuoka
Warlord -> Chungking


Voluntary Resource Lending:
No changes

Edit: Allies goes first if we win the initiative. No re-roll.

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RE: 4 player game - 12/30/2018 1:18:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		41 JF EOT (cont):
RTB:
US SUBs to Midway & San Diego
FF SUB to St Helena
CW:
Queens to Colombo
Eagle to St Helena
TRS GoG -> Belfast
TRS Mozambique Ch -> Freetown
Dutch SUB finally arrives Gib
various escorts & BB's to Liverpool, St Martinique, Halifax, Freetown

use oil:
CW reorg all but Eagle, Hawkins, Erebus using saved oil in canada for 3.4
FF reorg 1 sub for .1 oil
US reorg 3 sub for .3 oil
SU reorg all for 1.9 oil in Persia

no breakdown

CW has a res from Dutch Guyana that (as it was last turn) is going into CVB and preventing the North Rhodesia res from routing through there so they are at 21. I'll "fix" this during CW prod to add 1 BP bringing them to 22. Pic attached.



LL:
SU gets Hurricane IIC, P-40C
FF gets A-20B, A-30, Kittyhawk, A-36 Mustang, C-47

allied builds:
CH: 3 GAR, save 1
CW: 22 BB[fd], Synth, PIL, 2xcvp1, MAR, ENGDIV, save 1
US: 17 5xCV[fd], BB[fd], INF, save 2
SU: 16 MECH, AT, GAR, 3xMIL

Reinf:
CH: GAR -> Kunming
CW: cvp, synth->Liverpool, INF, NAV4->Belfast. remove Hurr
US: synth->KC, cp->Norfolk
SU: LND2, ARM, INF -> Gomel. INF -> Vitebsk

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RE: 4 player game - 12/30/2018 2:56:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		I took a look at the CW resource transportation. The trouble, for me, was that one oil going from Canada did go through The Bay of Biscay, instead of the Faeroes Gap. Once that was changed it was just changing oil from being saved in UK to being saved in Canada, or to be produced for in UK.

With that said I have no trouble with editing a BP to CW instead. Just make sure that CPs isn't used to transport a oil resource to be saved in UK that should be used to transport that resource for production.




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RE: 4 player game - 12/31/2018 2:19:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		Changes to lending:
FF 1 res to SU, stop 1 res to CH (no lending to CH)
CW 1 res to SU

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RE: 4 player game - 12/31/2018 8:22:19 AM   
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Allied: 1
Axis: 10

Axis call -> Allies goes first.

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RE: 4 player game - 12/31/2018 7:58:09 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: peskpesk

Initiative Mar\Apr 1941
Allied: 1
Axis: 10


Strange. Usually those kind of rolls are reserved for naval combat!

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RE: 4 player game - 1/1/2019 6:06:52 AM   
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RE: 4 player game - 1/3/2019 9:06:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		41 MA i1:
SU - land. CW - naval
naval air:
CW NAV3-> 4 box FG

naval moves:
FF SUB journeys N to GoG
US SUB Wake->Mendocino
CW:
Queens with Gort -> Bay of Bengal
SUB to ItC, SUB to EMed
4 ship CV TF to 3 box N Sea
TRS from Freetown to 0 box FG
TRS from Freetown to 0 box USEC pick up MIL
CV TF to 3 box FG, BB drop to 0 box
TRS from Belfast with INF to GoG
convoy protection groups to the usual 4,1,0 boxes in usual sz's: CVB,CSV,USEC,FG,CAtl,NAtl

2 sub searches in E Med & ItC - need axis air reaction for both. ItC will be searched first. Thanks.





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RE: 4 player game - 1/3/2019 9:22:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		From Malta put GE FTR2 with 3 str in O-box in Italian coast. Put Lnd3 (or 2?) from Malta in O-box in East Med. Plz

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RE: 4 player game - 1/3/2019 11:00:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		ItC: ax 5, al 3 = 5 surp for allies vs 0 box. 4 to choose sub combat. IT cp aborted to la spezia (sub dives 2nd round).
E Med: at time of combat the planes in Malta are OOS so can't react. Instead IT sends FTR to 0 box. ax 5, al 3 = 4 surp for allies vs 0 box. 4 to choose sub combat. IT cp aborted to la spezia (sub dives 2nd round).


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RE: 4 player game - 1/3/2019 6:54:09 PM   
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CW bombs Prague with Blenheim on night mission (Bf110C can intercept).
USSR bombs Sapporo with Pe-8 on night mission (2x CVP can intercept).

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RE: 4 player game - 1/3/2019 7:00:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		The German FTR3 intercepts the bomber, and stay as long as possible. Lands on the hex it flew from, if it survives.

Japan intercept with the size 2 CVP (D3A1). It stays as well, and land on the CV it flew from.

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RE: 4 player game - 1/3/2019 7:02:31 PM   
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RE: 4 player game - 1/3/2019 7:05:54 PM   
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RE: 4 player game - 1/3/2019 7:09:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		In Japan rolls are 9 and 10, bomber cleared.

Bombing raid was failure, rolled 1.

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RE: 4 player game - 1/3/2019 7:14:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		USSR makes another attempt to kill TERR and ground strikes it hard (IL-4 extended range).

Will Japan send any planes? USSR has one fighter in range.




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RE: 4 player game - 1/3/2019 7:20:41 PM   
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RE: 4 player game - 1/3/2019 7:26:30 PM   
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RE: 4 player game - 1/3/2019 7:28:10 PM   
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RE: 4 player game - 1/3/2019 8:26:27 PM   
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USSR aborts at this point, no need to risk good bomber.




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RE: 4 player game - 1/3/2019 8:28:34 PM   
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