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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 12/3/2018 5:27:36 PM   
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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 1/3/2019 12:18:35 PM   
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A much needed rest for the Holidays, sees a resumption of turns and Japanese carnage continues apace...

A small Japanese SAG engages a much superior Allied force several times around Miri...




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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 1/3/2019 12:20:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		The second engagement, a third follows in the morning with a CL force that is doing the bombardments of Miri and Brunei...Beasts strike Brunei along with the bombardment, burning up three large AO loading fuel....no good news here.






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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 1/3/2019 12:21:56 PM   
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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 1/3/2019 12:23:31 PM   
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Ground combat at Chengting (92,40)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 96283 troops, 687 guns, 2093 vehicles, Assault Value = 3588

Defending force 31104 troops, 273 guns, 192 vehicles, Assault Value = 992

Allied adjusted assault: 2121

Japanese adjusted defense: 1695

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
368 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 51 disabled
Non Combat: 16 destroyed, 27 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Guns lost 23 (5 destroyed, 18 disabled)
Vehicles lost 104 (38 destroyed, 66 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
1245 casualties reported
Squads: 27 destroyed, 176 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 58 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 47 (3 destroyed, 44 disabled)
Vehicles lost 377 (26 destroyed, 351 disabled)

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 1/3/2019 12:27:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Chinese Front...already the Chinese have pierced the lines in the southern center, and there is nothing to stop them.

In my naivete, I didn't think the Chinese and Soviets would join forces to such a degree, and add the British and American AF in the northern China battlefield it is simply a hammerblow.

To be fair, the combined Allied forces have such an advantage in numbers they where sure to pierce the defensive somewhere.




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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 1/3/2019 5:06:29 PM   
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It's just such a porous front, even without the Soviets, and completely devoid of good defensive terrain. Not a single good place to dig in between Singyang, Peiping and Tsingtao. No good terrain for a forward defense of Shanghai. The big urban centres are isolated from each other so you can't anchor a defensive line in an urban hex. It's just all round horrible.

Any plans to drawback those frontlines?

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 1/3/2019 5:20:41 PM   
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There are broad, open & indefensible areas to be sure... but there are other points where delays can be produced.

Also, the Chinese should be still brittle on the supply/unit quality front here. I'm just not sure it matters whether those forces marching southeast stall out or not.

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 1/4/2019 11:40:16 AM   
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Any plans to drawback those frontlines?


I am going to try as little as possible, I need the resource production from them badly. If the Soviet/Chinese push to the north wins, then a general retreat will have to be sounded.

China is getting supply from the Soviets, plus the Burma road has been open for a month or more.

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 1/4/2019 8:35:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mind_messing

China is honestly the worst theatre in-game for Japan to defend in. If the Japanese aren't immediately able to press their advantage against the Chinese to push them back and the Chinese get outside help, it's an impossible front.

It's just such a porous front, even without the Soviets, and completely devoid of good defensive terrain. Not a single good place to dig in between Singyang, Peiping and Tsingtao. No good terrain for a forward defense of Shanghai. The big urban centres are isolated from each other so you can't anchor a defensive line in an urban hex. It's just all round horrible.

Any plans to drawback those frontlines?

+1

Hence the strategy to take CHI out of the war early … because later you have to deal with them and they are very hard to deal with against a competent opponent.

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 1/5/2019 1:24:44 PM   
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A bleak day, as Hue Falls, the troops run in the wrong direction, and Hanoi and Haiphong's days are numbered.




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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 1/5/2019 1:25:58 PM   
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I forgot to mention P40s too, plus all the bombers...




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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 1/5/2019 1:27:15 PM   
Lowpe


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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 1/5/2019 2:55:53 PM   
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October 23, 1942

A bleak day, as Hue Falls, the troops run in the wrong direction, and Hanoi and Haiphong's days are numbered.

In which direction did they retreat?

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 1/5/2019 3:06:17 PM   
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October 23, 1942

A bleak day, as Hue Falls, the troops run in the wrong direction, and Hanoi and Haiphong's days are numbered.

In which direction did they retreat?


West, into the jungle where they will slowly starve, bypassed. Will miss those units. A large chunk of my western anti tank capability.


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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 1/7/2019 4:08:21 AM   
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Allied air forces are strong in China...

I forgot to mention P40s too, plus all the bombers...


I'm willing to believe you, but it takes a lot more than two Wildcats to constitute "strong"!

OTOH, if they have no opposition, that means complete air supremacy!

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 1/7/2019 12:07:16 PM   
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Allied air forces are strong in China...

I forgot to mention P40s too, plus all the bombers...


I'm willing to believe you, but it takes a lot more than two Wildcats to constitute "strong"!

OTOH, if they have no opposition, that means complete air supremacy!

I once saw a TV news advertisement in NYC that their station had two traffic helicopters (while other stations then had one) giving them twice the air supremacy!

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 1/7/2019 1:50:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here is today's Lightning Sweep over Hankow, with the runway damaged, sweeps have now lessened to one F$F squadron 18 planes, and one Lightning Squadron...

Morning Air attack on Hankow , at 85,50

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 35,550 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38E Lightning x 22

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x P-38E Lightning sweeping at 31550 feet

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 1/7/2019 1:51:40 PM   
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Here is the Soviet infantry push with few mechanized units...but lots of artillery. The 1st and 2nd Tank Divisions counter attack was split and out maneuvered by numerous Soviet units...and came to nothing...Soviets were much stronger here than initially spotted.




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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 1/7/2019 1:58:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		Despite the presence of some of Japan's monster artillery, Chengting bombardment goes heavily to the Soviets. Can the 27th and 28th save Chengting...which will then probably get surrounded anyhow.

Ground combat at Chengting (92,40)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1800 troops, 160 guns, 120 vehicles, Assault Value = 2765

Defending force 28426 troops, 262 guns, 78 vehicles, Assault Value = 756

Japanese ground losses:
205 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 7 (5 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Assaulting units:
1st Chinese Corps
61st Tank Division
43rd Tank Brigade
206th Tank Brigade
7th Chinese Corps
42nd Chinese Corps
203rd Tank Brigade
111th Tank Division
12th Chinese Corps
35th Chinese Corps
84th Chinese Corps
39th Guards Mortar Regiment
32nd Guards Mortar Regiment
413th Howitzer Regiment
33rd Guards Mortar Regiment
178th Mortar Regiment

Defending units:
59th Division
6th Ind.Mixed Brigade
2nd NCPC Infantry Brigade
68th Division
26th/C Division
8th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
3rd RF Gun Battalion
47th Field Const Co
7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
9th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
3rd FF Const Unit
56th JAAF AF Bn





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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 1/10/2019 3:25:44 PM   
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We hold for one more day, and two divisions and some tanks will arrive to solidify the defense.





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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 1/10/2019 3:28:52 PM   
Lowpe


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Sub attack near Attu Island at 151,47

Japanese Ships
SS RO-33

Allied Ships
xAP Princess Elizabeth, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AVD Gillis
xAP Princess Charlotte
KV Quesnel

SS RO-33 launches 2 torpedoes at xAP Princess Elizabeth
RO-33 diving deep ....
KV Quesnel fails to find sub, continues to search...
KV Quesnel fails to find sub, continues to search...
KV Quesnel fails to find sub, continues to search...
KV Quesnel fails to find sub, continues to search...
KV Quesnel fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 1/12/2019 3:55:26 PM   
Lowpe


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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 1/15/2019 2:49:09 PM   
Lowpe


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The Soviet Chinese combined Army achieves another victory. I had two divisions and one armored unit attempting to arrive but they went from 43 miles to not arriving and staying in their own hex.

Of course the besieged troops then retreat to the north further behind enemy lines.

China falls. I bet I set a record.






Hiyo eats a torpedo, from another sub, which are simply thick as thieves. Damage is very light.

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 1/17/2019 3:18:41 PM   
Lowpe


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A Soviet Tank Division gets crushed! We won't talk about the air phase, as I foolishly lefty some ground attacks on trying to destroy B17s on the ground at Soviet air bases and flew into Lightnings, Vanguards, P40s.






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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 1/23/2019 10:02:34 PM   
Lowpe


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Soviets have crossed the river with 17 units, and I am attempting to encircle them. However there are so many supply paths for them it will be tough.






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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 1/23/2019 10:04:24 PM   
Lowpe


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Status: offline 		Meanwhile, I was hoping to put a hurt on some soviet vehicles here, but not to be:

What a roll those guys had, and even superbly led, considering the IJA Tank Division has one of Japan's best leaders.






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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 1/29/2019 1:47:59 PM   
Lowpe


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Status: offline 		It is Nov 1, 1942, and Japan is seriously getting their butts kicked. Everywhere.

The close coordination between Soviets/Chinese/British/Dutch have just devastated the Empire. Soviet supplies feeding the Chinese. Combined Soviet/Chinese Spearheads. B17s flying from Soviet base.

Anyhow, Japan was looking forward to getting some Jacks up in the air...but for some stupid reason that I have never, ever seen before, all Japanese research and development stopped.

There are supplies...just no progress.

Anybody every see this before? It doesn't really matter, considering how Japan is getting so destroyed...but still.




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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 1/29/2019 11:15:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Best I can figure is that with realistic R&D OFF, if you turn off repairs it will stop R&D. I was under the impression that there nothing the player could do to stop r&d, and I globally shut down repairs to conserve supplies.

Well, I guess I did conserve supplies.!

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 1/30/2019 12:55:12 PM   
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Best I can figure is that with realistic R&D OFF, if you turn off repairs it will stop R&D. I was under the impression that there nothing the player could do to stop r&d, and I globally shut down repairs to conserve supplies.

Well, I guess I did conserve supplies.!


You don't get R&D from a partially disabled factory.

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