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new to W10 - 10/18/2018 12:48:04 AM

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Got a PC with W10 and tried to install WitPAE .... says installed ok. won't launch .... cant find PW data ?

Also can't see AE in uninstall programs ..... is this a W10 thing or am I doing something terribly wrong .... this is so foreign .... missing W7

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RE: new to W10 - 10/18/2018 6:13:21 AM

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You are doing something wrong. You can experience horrible lag, after click, and bleeding through desktop, but WitPAE will always run on WIN10.

But maybe you need to patch system first? It took me two days recently, to do this. 1807 alone needed like 6 hours to install...

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RE: new to W10 - 10/18/2018 12:05:47 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: scout1

Got a PC with W10 and tried to install WitPAE .... says installed ok. won't launch .... cant find PW data ?

Also can't see AE in uninstall programs ..... is this a W10 thing or am I doing something terribly wrong .... this is so foreign .... missing W7

AE will deliver the "Can't find PW data" error message on any version of Windows when the wrong shortcut is used. If you installed one of the beta patches, use the shortcut found in the Beta2 sub-folder. Don't try to edit an old shortcut.

There may be other reasons the PW data error appears, but this is the most common one.

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RE: new to W10 - 10/18/2018 9:17:19 PM

scout1

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

quote:

ORIGINAL: scout1

Got a PC with W10 and tried to install WitPAE .... says installed ok. won't launch .... cant find PW data ?

Also can't see AE in uninstall programs ..... is this a W10 thing or am I doing something terribly wrong .... this is so foreign .... missing W7

AE will deliver the "Can't find PW data" error message on any version of Windows when the wrong shortcut is used. If you installed one of the beta patches, use the shortcut found in the Beta2 sub-folder. Don't try to edit an old shortcut.

There may be other reasons the PW data error appears, but this is the most common one.

Not sure it was a beta version (will check tonight), but your statement about wrong short cuts interests me. I've historically installed on a desktop with W7. The two attempts I've made at the install did not list anything at all in the install directory location. It was blank and I had to add a path .... don't ever remember needing to do this previously .... wonder why .... another thing to look into tonight .... thanks

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RE: new to W10 - 10/18/2018 9:28:16 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: scout1

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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

quote:

ORIGINAL: scout1

Got a PC with W10 and tried to install WitPAE .... says installed ok. won't launch .... cant find PW data ?

Also can't see AE in uninstall programs ..... is this a W10 thing or am I doing something terribly wrong .... this is so foreign .... missing W7

AE will deliver the "Can't find PW data" error message on any version of Windows when the wrong shortcut is used. If you installed one of the beta patches, use the shortcut found in the Beta2 sub-folder. Don't try to edit an old shortcut.

There may be other reasons the PW data error appears, but this is the most common one.

Not sure it was a beta version (will check tonight), but your statement about wrong short cuts interests me. I've historically installed on a desktop with W7. The two attempts I've made at the install did not list anything at all in the install directory location. It was blank and I had to add a path .... don't ever remember needing to do this previously .... wonder why .... another thing to look into tonight .... thanks

I don't use the Beta, but the last official patch keeps the game in the C:/Program Files/Matrix Games/ etc. folder. The Beta creates a new folder but you should be able to find that somewhere on your C:/ drive. Then just find the executable file for the game and right click on it to make a shortcut. Then drag the shortcut to the desktop and it should have the correct path in its properties. After that just add the switches needed to get it running smoothly with your system (see the extensive thread about Win 10 and switches in the Tech Forum). It may take some experimentation because different systems have different requirements.

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RE: new to W10 - 10/18/2018 11:25:16 PM

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I havw * CompUpdate v1126 (~ 100M file) �. can this be loaded as a stand alone file or do I need to go back to the original install and then update ?

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RE: new to W10 - 10/19/2018 1:13:07 AM

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nevermind �.. apparently need to load the original version then upgrade from there �. so Matrix only ships or downloads the 8 yr old version for new purchases ?

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RE: new to W10 - 10/19/2018 4:26:36 AM

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nevermind �.. apparently need to load the original version then upgrade from there �. so Matrix only ships or downloads the 8 yr old version for new purchases ?

Yep, and no comment.

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RE: new to W10 - 4/5/2019 1:49:39 PM

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Pity seabee doesn't work on Windows 10 full screen I get that PW dat message too.
Just don't have the time, patience and computer expertise to get around this.
Old soldiers like me struggle with these issues.
Oh well, back to silent hunter, at least I can get that full screen.
Taking nothing away from the guys who made this effort though.

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RE: new to W10 - 4/5/2019 4:03:15 PM

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Seriously man, if you can get Silent Hunter working on Windows 10, WitP-AE is "cake" in comparison! I have a relatively new laptop and it still doesn't have a functional SH4 or 5, simply because I so dread the huge amount of tweaking necessary to get them working properly!

Folks here are pretty patient, and we'll walk you through the steps necessary. I will say that I still do not run W10 on fullscreen, but rather have it in a window that is 98% of fullscreen (which was the only way to solve all my Win10 incompatibility issues).

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RE: new to W10 - 4/5/2019 8:38:02 PM

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Seriously man, if you can get Silent Hunter working on Windows 10, WitP-AE is "cake" in comparison! I have a relatively new laptop and it still doesn't have a functional SH4 or 5, simply because I so dread the huge amount of tweaking necessary to get them working properly!

Folks here are pretty patient, and we'll walk you through the steps necessary. I will say that I still do not run W10 on fullscreen, but rather have it in a window that is 98% of fullscreen (which was the only way to solve all my Win10 incompatibility issues).

+1

I am just not smart enough to get it to run in full screen...but what I have is wonderful.

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RE: new to W10 - 4/8/2019 1:37:55 PM

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Hi,
Seems I'm in the same boat with all the others with the windows 10 lack of ful screen problem. Yes, would very much appreciate a walk through to get it as close to full screen as possible. Meanwhile will fiddle with the narrow version to learn more about how game works.
btw, spoke too soon, my latest silent hunter 3 game save doesn't load!
All the best

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RE: new to W10 - 4/8/2019 9:19:45 PM

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From your last post, it sounds like you can get the game running, just not in "full screen". What are the settings in your desktop shortcut? As an example, here's what I'm using for "almost full screen":

"C:\Games\War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition\Beta2\War in the Pacific Admiral Edition.exe" -wd -px1904 -py1040 -cpu4 -deepColor -dd_sw

FYI, this is the thread which finally clued me in how to set up a "larger than normal" window for windowed mode.

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RE: new to W10 - 4/12/2019 6:53:27 AM

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Hi,
I tried your settings and the game is very fast and smooth now but has not increased the size, still narrow, but at least it works better.
Will check out that thread and see if it helps
Cheers

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RE: new to W10 - 4/12/2019 7:32:52 PM

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It's possible to get Silent Hunter to work on Windows 10? I wonder if steevo can come to my house.

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RE: new to W10 - 4/12/2019 7:33:48 PM

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What about Fighting Steel?

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RE: new to W10 - 4/13/2019 2:30:29 AM

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Through trial and error I've found that using a resolution less than your monitor's full capability eliminates the "jumping animation" bug. Is this the rationale behind your "almost full screen" setting?

You have to take into account the "frame" of the window. There's jumping animation because the picture (1920x1080) is struggling to fit within a smaller frame. The solution is setting a smaller picture. I use -pxf1916 -pyf1046.

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ORIGINAL: Kull

From your last post, it sounds like you can get the game running, just not in "full screen". What are the settings in your desktop shortcut? As an example, here's what I'm using for "almost full screen":

"C:\Games\War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition\Beta2\War in the Pacific Admiral Edition.exe" -wd -px1904 -py1040 -cpu4 -deepColor -dd_sw

FYI, this is the thread which finally clued me in how to set up a "larger than normal" window for windowed mode.

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RE: new to W10 - 4/13/2019 1:41:09 PM

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ORIGINAL: Technopiper

Through trial and error I've found that using a resolution less than your monitor's full capability eliminates the "jumping animation" bug. Is this the rationale behind your "almost full screen" setting?

You have to take into account the "frame" of the window. There's jumping animation because the picture (1920x1080) is struggling to fit within a smaller frame. The solution is setting a smaller picture. I use -pxf1916 -pyf1046.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Kull

From your last post, it sounds like you can get the game running, just not in "full screen". What are the settings in your desktop shortcut? As an example, here's what I'm using for "almost full screen":

"C:\Games\War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition\Beta2\War in the Pacific Admiral Edition.exe" -wd -px1904 -py1040 -cpu4 -deepColor -dd_sw

FYI, this is the thread which finally clued me in how to set up a "larger than normal" window for windowed mode.

The main problem for me was the "screen bleedthrough" issue which arrived with Windows 10, and then got progressively worse with every new "update". Some people can successfully eliminate the problem by removing the "-dd_sw" switch, but for most of us that slows scrolling down to molassess speed. Since bleedthrough does not happen in windows mode, the trick was to add a new "native resolution" just a bit smaller than the standard 1920x1080 screen, and then set the window to that size using the switches. (Theages gives plenty of "how-to" on that in the linked thread above).

Anyway, it sounds like you have achieved a slightly larger window resolution, which is cool. I've come to really prefer window mode anyway, because it's more stable when moving from the game to another app (usually a spreadsheet).

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