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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 4/2/2019 5:10:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		The problem is that there really is not anywhere to go with this offensive. My supplies are low and Scott's airpower will put a stop to just about any advance I make. I'll see if I can get his artillery unit that retreated up the road with my armor, but otherwise I'll just sit pat here in Burma. I also may try to reopen the road to China. Scott may try to Burma off from the south and so I'll need a retreat route for my troops




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 4/2/2019 5:11:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		In other news Scott bombed my airfield at Palembang again as I slowly get planes out of there. I'm getting oil/fuel out of Medan and I sank a PF (hit by 3 torpedoes so you know it went down).

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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 4/3/2019 1:44:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		As expected Scott bombed Tuangoo to stop me exploiting and my flak was able to take a nice toll of bombers. I'm very low on supply so I don't think I can repeat this but it was a nice bonus on top of the land victory last turn.




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 4/3/2019 1:45:55 AM   
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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 4/3/2019 1:48:41 AM   
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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 4/3/2019 1:51:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hmm, this will be my last try tonight to see if I can get it to work.




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 4/3/2019 2:06:36 AM   
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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 4/3/2019 11:19:35 AM   
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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 4/3/2019 11:20:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		Back on track! As you can see, a nice haul for the flak boys last turn.

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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 4/3/2019 11:22:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		My armor division actually made it to the new hex and is likely to get pounded, but, maybe he'll take the brit artillery battalion with him! In any event, given the total allied air supremacy in Burma, my offensive really can't go anywhere unless I want to try to advance in a testudo formation, but if I go up one road Scott will run away and advance down another one. So, given that he is not pushing in this theater I'll be happy to hang on to what I have and pull a couple of divisions out.




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 4/3/2019 9:48:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		I actually managed to pull off the attack on Scott's artillery regiment and killed 16 more guns. There is no way I"m heading into clear terrain so I'm heading back. Scott may bomb me this turn but I think that's a British unit that is out of the fight for awhile. :)




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 4/3/2019 9:50:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Scott did a fighter sweep from Padang over Singapore. The results are not too bad, he actually lost more P-47s that I lost fighters if you figure in his operational losses. Still, it bodes ill that he's not in a position to start sweeping there. I have lots of ships in drydock and very vulnerable!




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 4/3/2019 9:51:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		In better news, my torpedo boats gave better than they got (if you ignore the fact that almost all of them sank). The chester took two torpedos and then ran into a Japanese TF and one shell sent it to the bottom. A nice trade for the day. I lost a DD (in the subsequent fight) and 5 MGBs for his sunk CA. As long as things stay on the surface like this I have a nice chance of positive attrition.




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 4/8/2019 4:39:36 PM   
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Not much to report in this turn. Scott shot down some of my search planes and took some attrition. I did get a sub near Singapore. I've also just about sucessfuly transported a tank regiment from Medan to Singapore. Singapore is down to about 17k supplies with a resupply convoy on the way. The longer Scott is distracted down here, the less time he has to get his bombers close to Japan. :)

I'm also continuing my oil collection efforts. I have about 32K in Singapore and getting as much in as possible.

There is about 140k of fuel sitting in Palembang. I'm trying to figure out how to get my hands on at least some of it but that move is several turns away.

The b-29s are showing off and bombed Saigon yesterday.




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 4/8/2019 4:42:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		In the meantime, I'm basically pulling out of Burma. I'm taking all of the AA out and the armored division as well as one infantry division. That should leave 6 infantry divisions there (not counting two Thai divisions that leave in a few months anyway. I can't hold Rangoon in the long run so the AA will head to Singapore and the two divisions will be a floating reserve in Vietnam in chase Scott tries the grand envelopment maneuver.

I've got all sorts of divisions in China sitting around with nothing to do so right now I'm not too worried about him pushing up the Burma road. That will be a long hard slog for him.




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 4/8/2019 6:40:39 PM   
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I can't hold Rangoon in the long run so...

Umm, what kind of un-JFB reasoning is that?

Japan can hold nothing in the long run, so what. The real question is can you inflict sufficient losses and stall Allies enough to justify your troops being eventually mauled. Terrain north of Moulmein offers one of the better bottlenecks on the global map, and that includes woods around Pegu clearing. By giving up Rangoon area without a serious fight you give Allies a supply channel into Burma and China they long desire for.

Always remember that your troops cost 2 times less compared to most Allies in terms of VPs. Let some of them die a glorious death, they are samurai.

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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 4/9/2019 4:54:06 PM   
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As always, the Emperor lights up when he hears you are dispensing advice.

Here is the defensive plan for Burma. I can't be in the clear terrain as his airforce will simply kill anything that stays there. And, I'm not a huge fan of defending the bases since the airforce can also bleed away my supply turn after turn with logistic hits. So, I'm holding the hex next to Pegu and the other choke points as noted on the map. The divisions in Pegu and Rangoon are staying in strat mode in case they need to get out of dodge quickly but will try to hold to let the other guys get out. I do have 2 RTA divisions in country but they go away in 100 days. Moulmein is set up to withstand Scott for awhile and the other divisions can be used to reinforce that position if they have to fall back there. I have about 20 divisions (experience 99 or so) in China not doing anything so his march up the Burma road would be a long hard slog.

But, I hear you when it comes to the terrain of Burma and the importance of Rangoon in keeping Scott in supply troubles. At the same time, given Scott's focus on Singapore, I don't want to open myself up to strategic encirclement with Scott taking a town on the Vietnamese coast and thus cutting off everyone in Burma. I have a division in Saigon and brigades in most of the other cities. This may well be Scott's plan because he pushed into Burma, but not with any overwhelming force at all.

Based on current force levels Burma and Rangoon are safe and simply awaiting developments.




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 4/9/2019 7:11:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		So Scott shock attacked Palembang where I have level 5 forts and I'm tripled by the swamp and he lost? A tank, one whole tank. The infantry regiments that came along for the ride lost nothing. This is going to go well. I can just feel it.




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 4/9/2019 7:16:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Meanwhile, Scott has moved on the coast of Balikpappan. Since my navy is sitting at Singpore I might as well try to use it now than see it hunted down in 1945. I'm moving the CV TFs out two hexes so that they can get land based air from Singapore. I have my anti-ship range set at five because I really don't want to send the bomber and torpedo boys into the furball (or watch them not launch . I'm more hoping to draw Scott in and hopefully chop up his CV planes. I'm also sending out 3 surface TFs at full speed with the A team leaders (Razor etc...) to see if I can catch his CVs in a night surface action. The Musashi will sail, but only part way out in case Scott makes a run up to Singapore. We'll see what happens.




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 4/9/2019 8:50:38 PM   
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But, I hear you when it comes to the terrain of Burma and the importance of Rangoon in keeping Scott in supply troubles. At the same time, given Scott's focus on Singapore, I don't want to open myself up to strategic encirclement with Scott taking a town on the Vietnamese coast and thus cutting off everyone in Burma. I have a division in Saigon and brigades in most of the other cities. This may well be Scott's plan because he pushed into Burma, but not with any overwhelming force at all.

You are right here. Seems like I did not give enough consideration to the threat from the south, yes. Allies would have trouble covering the push to Vietnam coast so far, but you never know. You might end up unlucky and lose the next CV battle which would open up the sea route for him, and your land movement is slow...

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So Scott shock attacked Palembang where I have level 5 forts and I'm tripled by the swamp and he lost? A tank, one whole tank. The infantry regiments that came along for the ride lost nothing. This is going to go well. I can just feel it.

He got lucky twice. First is that his tanks were randomly selected to go in first and take the brunt. Second is that you seem to not have heavy arty in PB, or do you?
Edit: ah, wait. Judging by the troops in the attacking force combat report stat it was only tanks who shocked (735 troops = 188AV (279-tanks) by the way hehe ). Regiments were not attacking so they probably came from the northwest?

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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 4/9/2019 8:51:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		He had 58 disabled tanks maybe they got caught in swap before the main attack could get started? The following infantry didn't press the attack when the tanks fell victim to the swamp thing.

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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 4/9/2019 11:36:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Get Assista, You might be right, the regiments may have come in from the non-river hexside and just happened to show up at the same time as the armor crossing the river. I have a full strength brigade there and a half strength garrison unit so some 75 mm guns. My thinking was (and is) that if he's in Palembang there is no real reason to have major land units there. he's already cut off the fuel/oil supply. Assuming the carriers don't die there only staying in Singapore while Medan is sending liquid my way. Then we're heading north and lamenting our lack of fuel.

The really big guns are in Manila and the Marianas. If he wants the big VP hexes he needs to come and take them.

Bif, maybe it's a Market Garden thing. When the lead tank got wiped out none of the others could get off of the road. :)

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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 4/10/2019 1:54:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		Carrier battle Borneo!!! The night started with several of my surface TFs intercepting a British TF with the Unicorn (CVL) and the Hermes (CVE) along with Prince of Wales and another BB. I also intercepted an allied surface TF with a CA, CL, and two DDs. I came off the worse for the wear on this as I lost a CA, 2 CLs and 2 DDs and Scott lost a DD and had damage to his CL. I also got three hits on the Unicorn which was reported to be on fire after the first battle, but not much afterwards.

However, all of my surface combats may have disrupted his air defense plan because he wound up with CV TFs in 3 different hexes.

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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 4/10/2019 1:55:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		And, one of Scotts CV bunches wound up within five hexes of the KB (you will recall that I set my planes to attack at 5 hexes to avoid running into the allied CAP buzz saw). The AM turn had no launches because, wait for it, there was bad weather. Not like that's happened before.

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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 4/10/2019 1:58:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		And then came the PM turn, the sweet sweet PM turn. All three of my TFs pulled of a coordinated strike on his northern CV TF and, while they took terrible losses from the CAP my fly pixel boys pushed on through and got in some really devastating hits. Several of his CVEs got pounded, the CV Princeton took two torpedo hits below the water line and a 500 kg bomb hit that penetrated the flight deck, one of the other CVs had an ammo explosion and the other one took two 500 kgs through the flight deck.




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 4/10/2019 1:59:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		In his return strike, Scott did not have many escorts and his bomber/torpedo force got chopped up. His net result was one bomb hit on the Shokaku which is still all green and operating normally.

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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 4/10/2019 2:01:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		The air losses favor the Japanese especially adding in the 75 or so planes that went down with the CVEs. These losses are consistent with Scott losing 3-4 CVEs but I don't think he lost any CVs. It's a little hard to tell as he has land bases right there so any CAP and strike aircraft in the air could have diverted to his Borneo bases.






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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 4/10/2019 2:03:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		In the ship loss column you can see my surface losses but also the CVEs that went down (I saw three sink and the other were battered). I don't think the Princeton II went down. It only had two torpedo hits and one bomb hit. It's not in good shape and it and it's to CV friends are probably out of the war for a few months but not sunk.




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 4/10/2019 2:07:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		The plan for tomorrow. The Carries will run back to Singapore. My strike arm was badly battered and there are more American carriers out there so why tempt fate when I can try to hide under the land based air umbrella. :)

But, I would like the chance to try to catch his damaged CVs so I"m sending the Musahsi back out at full speed and I've created to BB TFs from my carrier TFs to go to the upper part of Borneo to try to catch ships there. They will face the risk of more allied air power but they should be there at night and, fingers crossed, back close to Singapore in the daylight. It's risky, but his carriers are likely discombobulated right now so I think it's a risk worth taking.




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 4/10/2019 3:19:46 AM   
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John B. : CV Princeton took two torpedo hits below the water


What!? Your above water torpedoes achieved nothing? This calls for a Diet investigation by senator Tru - Man-san.

Regardless of that failure, your gambit was brilliant and paid off handsomely - Bravo Zulu!

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