Slitherine

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2. Sub nerfs - not really funny at all. Axis have only 2 options for resupply before the fall of france - Greenland (until the americans take over it) and Iceland (for even less time). You got the option of operating a bomber to Rejkjavik and keep Iceland but that will incur US wrath (+8% increase in readiness). So extended raiding campaigns are difficult now.

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ORIGINAL: hellraiser1973

Started a game vs Allied AI to get an ideea of the impact of the patch changes:

1. Bomber nerfs - yep you can feel them, especially early on. Once they get ground attack tech and some xp/and under a good HQ they are strong but obviously not as strong as before. You feel the nerfs in the polish and french campaign - maybe add one more turn for poland and france sometimes.
You can feel it in Malta, the island may survive a little bit longer. And you definitely feel them in North Africa - actually wherever there is a bottle neck, you have to rely more on your ground units now.

2. Sub nerfs - not really funny at all. Axis have only 2 options for resupply before the fall of france - Greenland (until the americans take over it) and Iceland (for even less time). You got the option of operating a bomber to Rejkjavik and keep Iceland but that will incur US wrath (+8% increase in readiness). So extended raiding campaigns are difficult now.

3. AI offensive planning - late 42, US amphib transports spotted in south atlantic - with gibraltar still allied, Axis decide to sneak ships past the rock, two at the time. Algeria in axis hands. Axis fleet intercept US transports and escorting fleet, huge battle, etc - some amphib manage to escape BUT to Gibraltar - tunnel vision operation Torch? I mean the invasion fleet amounted to str 1 amphib, str 4 amphib and str 10 amphib - once the allies decide to go somewhere, they just go for it no matter what? OFC they got sunk near the Rock - why not making their way back, regroup and live to fight another day?

4. AI defensive planning - on the eastern front I noticed the tendency of the allied AI to hold on to certain cities, even forming a huge bulge in the german frontline, with multiple units, without HQs - if they keep a railroad open, they continue to bring more units to the slaughterhouse - yea, it slows me down a little bit but losing so many units for no apparent strategic goal? If slowing down the Axis while building up in other areas was the goal, it would have made sense.

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ORIGINAL: PvtBenjamin

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ORIGINAL: hellraiser1973


2. Sub nerfs - not really funny at all. Axis have only 2 options for resupply before the fall of france - Greenland (until the americans take over it) and Iceland (for even less time). You got the option of operating a bomber to Rejkjavik and keep Iceland but that will incur US wrath (+8% increase in readiness). So extended raiding campaigns are difficult now.

Interesting update thanks.


Hurrah !! No longer possible to put unsinkable zero supply subs at the extremes of the map that continue to block supply & gain experience for years. Looks like it will take more strategy now.

The Axis taking Iceland certainly is more interesting now but given the US mobilization impact it probably still makes it a poor move.

If Spanish diplomacy is handled correctly the Axis have ports to re supply from Northern Finland to Santa Cruz as the game progresses.

Sealion strategies will also have to be adjusted. The British did have a large naval advantage in the real war after all.

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ORIGINAL: hellraiser1973

Just ended the game, spring 43 - allies offered peace after the three important russian cities had fallen.

After the FoW was lifted, I noticed the same issue as in previous patches: England was choke full of ground units but only 1-2 planes while the US mainland was stacked with planes of all types.
Aside from the ill fated Torch operation, the western allies did absolutely nothing to threaten Axis except for one interesting development: Axis took Iraq and then move on to liberate Persia and go up north thru Caucasus. At some point, a polish corps was formed in the Mid East which started to move into Iraq. Is this polish corps supposed to appear even if Axis conquered Iraq?