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New WW2 movie - 5/17/2019 3:17:42 PM   
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Well the CGI are improving.
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RE: New WW2 movie - 5/17/2019 3:25:50 PM   
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RE: New WW2 movie - 5/17/2019 5:16:37 PM   
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RE: New WW2 movie - 5/17/2019 5:33:56 PM   
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Doesn't it look like video game graphics?

The need to create drama means that everything flies too close together and too fast. That Devastator looks like its going 300 miles an hour...and it's a close question whether the PBY will pass it.

I hope it's good, but the acting and storytelling would have to be superb to overcome the video game aspect.

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RE: New WW2 movie - 5/17/2019 5:51:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Looks like your typical B-list budget movie. I know there is a new Midway movie coming out this year, but this doesn't appear to be the same movie.

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RE: New WW2 movie - 5/17/2019 5:56:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		At about 1:90, carriers turn on searchlights at dusk, presumably so that late-arriving aircraft can land.

Unless I've lost my mind, that took place during the Marianas, Philippine Sea campaign. Did such happen during Midway? If not, and if they did this using artistic license...ugg.

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RE: New WW2 movie - 5/17/2019 5:59:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		Pretty sure at about 2:10, as the men are bobbing in the ocean...the PBY is perfectly stationary.*

*In the '60s, while watching Hogan's Heroes with my WWII vet dad, he would complain when Lebeau came up from the tunnel into snowy woods...with green leafed hardwoods. I come by the nitpicking honestly. And my daughter does the same thing.


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RE: New WW2 movie - 5/17/2019 6:11:58 PM   
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At about 1:90, carriers turn on searchlights at dusk, presumably so that late-arriving aircraft can land.

Unless I've lost my mind, that took place during the Marianas, Philippine Sea campaign. Did such happen during Midway? If not, and if they did this using artistic license...ugg.


Apparently it happened at Midway too. About 1500 on the 5th TF16 launched a big strike to finish off Hiryu (which had already sunk). The strike didn't find Hiryu but did find the destroyer that had been sent to scuttle Hiryu (they didn't find Hiryu either) HIJMS Tanikaze. In spite of something like 65 bombers attacking poor Tanikaze they all missed. The strike didn't return until after dark and was low on fuel so TF16 turned on their running lights and big 36" searchlights to guide the planes back. So it would seem Adm Mitscher did it more than once to save his pilots (a lot more f them in 1944).


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RE: New WW2 movie - 5/17/2019 6:14:10 PM   
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At about 1:90, carriers turn on searchlights at dusk, presumably so that late-arriving aircraft can land.

Unless I've lost my mind, that took place during the Marianas, Philippine Sea campaign. Did such happen during Midway? If not, and if they did this using artistic license...ugg.


IIRC, didn't the Shokaku and Zuikaku do this at Coral Sea too?

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RE: New WW2 movie - 5/17/2019 6:20:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the correction. That's interesting.

Somewhere in the trailer, what seems to be a Zero is firing from a center-mounted gun. It looked weird, so I looked it up and found that at least some of the models did have that configuration. It still looks weird - a case of projectile dysfunction, I think.

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RE: New WW2 movie - 5/17/2019 6:39:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		At the end they put up the name Judd Nelson. Judd Nelson? No, I never saw him.... So I looked at the trailer again and..... Oh **** do I feel old .

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RE: New WW2 movie - 5/17/2019 7:28:38 PM   
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At about 1:90, carriers turn on searchlights at dusk, presumably so that late-arriving aircraft can land.

Unless I've lost my mind, that took place during the Marianas, Philippine Sea campaign. Did such happen during Midway? If not, and if they did this using artistic license...ugg.


Apparently it happened at Midway too. About 1500 on the 5th TF16 launched a big strike to finish off Hiryu (which had already sunk). The strike didn't find Hiryu but did find the destroyer that had been sent to scuttle Hiryu (they didn't find Hiryu either) HIJMS Tanikaze. In spite of something like 65 bombers attacking poor Tanikaze they all missed. The strike didn't return until after dark and was low on fuel so TF16 turned on their running lights and big 36" searchlights to guide the planes back. So it would seem Adm Mitscher did it more than once to save his pilots (a lot more f them in 1944).




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RE: New WW2 movie - 5/17/2019 7:37:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'll say this for the CGI, it does a decent job of getting the CGI carriers to look like actual Yorktown-Class CVs. I think I also spied a CGI CA at the beginning looked like an actual prewar USN CA. It looks like it could be worth seeing.


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RE: New WW2 movie - 5/17/2019 7:41:01 PM   
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RE: New WW2 movie - 5/17/2019 11:32:50 PM   
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When you dive on a carrier, your eyes get real big. When you subsequently dive on a DD, you never seem to reach your drop point.

And if you are a kamikaze, you never have to worry about drop points but your eyes still get real big!

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RE: New WW2 movie - 5/17/2019 11:52:58 PM   
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RE: New WW2 movie - 5/18/2019 12:39:58 AM   
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RE: New WW2 movie - 5/18/2019 4:15:26 AM   
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RE: New WW2 movie - 5/18/2019 10:45:42 AM   
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It's missing something....



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Mmmmm..... I don't know, there's something not quite right about this, but I can't quite put my finger on it.......


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RE: New WW2 movie - 5/18/2019 11:18:35 AM   
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producers can find enough drama in the real events to satisfy themselves

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RE: New WW2 movie - 5/18/2019 12:21:06 PM   
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Mmmmm..... I don't know, there's something not quite right about this, but I can't quite put my finger on it.......



Yeah, I loved it when the P-38's arrived on the scene as the cavalry and saved the day!

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RE: New WW2 movie - 5/18/2019 1:08:16 PM   
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RE: New WW2 movie - 5/18/2019 8:36:06 PM   
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Yeah, the interest in WW2 movies has been waning for a long time. People just don't care about as much as when we were young. So you had better lower your expectations of "Saving Private Ryan" quality movies ever being produced again and just enjoy what we get.


Apparently Tarantino has signed up to do, not the next Star Trek, but #5 in the reboot. It will be the first R rated one.

Perhaps in the meantime he could be persuaded to do a Pacific war film, with his usual homage to, in this case, Japanese cinema.

Something horrible and pointless would be a good topic for him. Peleliu, or second Tarakan or something.

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RE: New WW2 movie - 5/19/2019 12:25:05 AM   
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Yeah, the interest in WW2 movies has been waning for a long time. People just don't care about as much as when we were young. So you had better lower your expectations of "Saving Private Ryan" quality movies ever being produced again and just enjoy what we get.


Apparently Tarantino has signed up to do, not the next Star Trek, but #5 in the reboot. It will be the first R rated one.

Perhaps in the meantime he could be persuaded to do a Pacific war film, with his usual homage to, in this case, Japanese cinema.

Something horrible and pointless would be a good topic for him. Peleliu, or second Tarakan or something.

The complete destruction of Manila would be a good topic ... even without a dragon.


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RE: New WW2 movie - 5/19/2019 12:35:03 AM   
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