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RE: Best American War movie? EZ Peasy - 7/25/2019 7:17:26 AM   
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Ah hell...I would add the Hurt Locker and Glory as well...

Now I have to see Cross of Iron, can't believe I have never seen it! I was a teenager the last time I watched Waterloo, going to have to watch that again to see how it rates these days.

Though war movies, the top three are also on my top list for favorite movies in all genres.

The best "not a movie" is Band of Brothers

Not American, but I hate not mentioning them...I love Das Boot and Gallipoli and they would make the international list.

And the Razzie definitely goes to Pearl Harbor (2001)!

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RE: Best American War movie? EZ Peasy - 7/25/2019 7:40:00 AM   
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I was a teenager the last time I watched Waterloo, going to have to watch that again to see how it rates these days.

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Waterloo won't disappoint

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kYW8OsqzK0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjHw3pkrY-A

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I love Das Boot and Gallipoli and they would make the international list.

warspite1

Oh yes Kleenex at the ready - Jean-Michel Jarre meets Albinoni (music heaven)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UclsBepOfm4

Dive! Dive!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snnwjoToN-8

But we can't forget one of the finest pieces of music ever written - and certainly the finest war movies track. Take it away Samuel Barber

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEv3zzKyiFQ

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And the Razzie definitely goes to Pearl Harbor (2001)!

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But at least it had one nice track though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NkRNg0TZOw

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RE: Best American War movie? EZ Peasy - 7/25/2019 8:48:45 AM   
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RE: Best American War movie? EZ Peasy - 7/25/2019 9:02:49 AM   
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RE: Best American War movie? EZ Peasy - 7/25/2019 9:05:57 AM   
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Above us the Waves - Kenneth More and Donald Sinden use midget subs to do for the Tirpitz.


I haven't seen this movie. Is it supposed to portray the midget attacks in Northern Norway or in the Trondheim Fjord?

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RE: Best American War movie? EZ Peasy - 7/25/2019 11:19:04 AM   
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Both the film and the music belong on my top lists.

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RE: Best American War movie? EZ Peasy - 7/25/2019 2:31:35 PM   
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It portrays both the chariot and then the midget sub attacks on the Tirpitz, so I guess northern Norway

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Above_Us_the_Waves

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RE: Best American War movie? EZ Peasy - 7/25/2019 4:47:14 PM   
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Hi Leandros

It portrays both the chariot and then the midget sub attacks on the Tirpitz, so I guess northern Norway

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Above_Us_the_Waves

Thank you - googling the movie I find that it supposedly cover both the one in the Trondheim Fjord (Operation Title, 1942) and the other in Northern Norway.

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RE: Best American War movie? EZ Peasy - 7/25/2019 9:46:47 PM   
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Nice piece of music from We Were Soldiers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_Lc3EQkyDU

Both the film and the music belong on my top lists.


BIG FAN of that movie and its soundtrack!

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RE: Best American War movie? EZ Peasy - 7/26/2019 1:51:22 AM   
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And, as much as any such, they both endeavored to be historically accurate, and mostly succeeded.

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RE: Best American War movie? EZ Peasy - 7/26/2019 2:51:37 AM   
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The Longest Day
In Harms Way
Battle of the Bulge
Glory

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RE: Best American War movie? EZ Peasy - 7/26/2019 4:54:54 AM   
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How can the following movies not have been mentioned thus far ….

The Longest Day
In Harms Way
Battle of the Bulge
Glory


The Longest Day and Glory were mentioned on some people's fave lists. Battle of the Bulge was panned for the final fuel barrel rolling scene.
I thought of In Harms Way, but the naval battle scenes were clunkily done - obvious models with unrealistic shell splashes and explosions. Sink the Bismarck did a much better job with models and effects.

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RE: Best American War movie? EZ Peasy - 7/26/2019 7:14:55 PM   
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Dgm_MQgIUg

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RE: Best American War movie? EZ Peasy - 7/26/2019 10:58:15 PM   
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Battle of the Budge should be on the list for the musical scores alone …..

Patriot is another suggestion of mine ...

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RE: Best American War movie? EZ Peasy - 7/26/2019 11:05:44 PM   
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RE: Best American War movie? EZ Peasy - 7/27/2019 12:44:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		Just sayin'. Here's some Battle of the Bulge music. The Sound of Music can be described as a war film and it has better music. The Battle of Britain has way better music. The Bridge over the River Kwai has way better music. The flipping Great Escape has way better music. In case you don't remember, and that would be all too easy, here's some Battle of the Bulge music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn99LiQq-PY





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RE: Best American War movie? EZ Peasy - 7/27/2019 1:03:54 AM   
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXbDQBsFFIE

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RE: Best American War movie? EZ Peasy - 7/27/2019 4:11:06 PM   
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Let us not forget:
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Audie Murphy had at least one flashback/PTSD episode while making To Hell and Back and testified before Congress about what we now call PTSD. Sergeant York never made any money from his heroics other than what he received from a grateful state and nation.

Another great movie about war is The Best Years of Our Lives starring the lovely Myrna Loy.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0036868/

Frank Capra had a film with Oscar nominations that year but he did not win any. His film? It's A Wonderful Life.

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RE: Best American War movie? EZ Peasy - 7/27/2019 6:18:06 PM   
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And it's my error, it's not All's Quiet, it is All Quiet.

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RE: Best American War movie? EZ Peasy - 7/27/2019 11:41:42 PM   
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I always thought of it as a German movie, as I saw the silent version with subtitles. The book is German and is one of the first to be burned in 1933.

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RE: Best American War movie? EZ Peasy - 7/27/2019 11:53:51 PM   
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RE: Best American War movie? EZ Peasy - 7/28/2019 7:01:05 AM   
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I had forgotten there was a remake (a made for TV remake, at that). But the Lew Ayres original was American.

And it's my error, it's not All's Quiet, it is All Quiet.

"Im Westen Nicht Neues" - "Westen" being the "Western Front".

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RE: OT: Best American War movie? EZ Peasy - 7/28/2019 8:03:09 AM   
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Schindler's List
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Waterloo
Conspiracy
Operation Daybreak

I've no doubt forgotten something big, but when I think of the best war movies these are recurring themes....


Conspiracy is a good production by BBC/HBO, but apart from Stanley Tucci (and probably money) it is pretty much a British movie.

Edit: looks like the screenplay was American, also the director...etc.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_(2001_film)

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RE: OT: Best American War movie? EZ Peasy - 7/28/2019 8:46:05 AM   
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it is good and probably more accurate

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RE: OT: Best American War movie? EZ Peasy - 7/28/2019 11:09:24 AM   
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"Im Westen Nicht Neues" - "Westen" being the "Western Front".


Translated, In the West Nothing New but the person who translated the book changed it to All Quiet on the Western Front which then entered the English language as a phrase.

Interestingly, a lot of German veterans were in the area when they made the movie and some of them were the German officers in the film. The scene where a man grabbed barbed wire then was blown apart, actually happened and was witnessed by one of the studio workers.

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RE: Best American War movie? EZ Peasy - 7/28/2019 5:02:53 PM   
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RE: Best American War movie? EZ Peasy - 7/28/2019 7:22:25 PM   
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RE: Best American War movie? EZ Peasy - 7/28/2019 7:48:57 PM   
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RE: Best American War movie? EZ Peasy - 7/28/2019 8:17:51 PM   
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RE: Best American War movie? EZ Peasy - 7/29/2019 3:33:31 PM   
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Another great movie about war is The Best Years of Our Lives starring the lovely Myrna Loy.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0036868/



I love this movie and cannot recommend it enough to those of us who came after this time. I had never really heard of it before watching it a few years ago. Betty Davis called it the best movie ever made. Go, find it, and watch it!

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