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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 7/31/2019 7:46:00 PM   
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Milne Bay: Dave elects not to sortie KB. Accordingly, the pressure should be much lower. The invasion armada and DS approach the beaches. There are fireworks - a Jap sub puts two TT into a CVE; a Japanese air strike gets mauled; and DS air strikes damage or sink two DD and a CA. An APD moved out ahead and landed at detachment of an Aussie division. There wasn't any counter-battery fire, so the enemy garrison must be pretty weak (now showing as just 3k troops on mouseover).




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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 7/31/2019 11:51:58 PM   
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P.S. The more I play, the more apparent it is that information is the most important element in the game, ahead of logistics, planning and tactics.


Yes, Scouts Out as I learned in the Army. How else are you going to know where to get the sodas, bier, coffee, wurst, cheese, rolls, and bakery items? Not to mention observing the fräuleins?

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/1/2019 1:12:38 PM   
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Milne Bay D-Day: On the 29th, troops come ashore in good order and without air or sea opposition.

KB: On the 29th, recon doesn't fly, so I lose track of KB at Sorong but pick up indications it may be on the move down New Guinea's "east" coast. Accordingly, DS ordered to move due west to rendezvous with a big amphib TF carrying 33rd Div. 100% prepped for Merauke. With KB on the far side of the big island, DS should be immune from strikes while covering this invasion. All transports (except two supply xAKs) ordered to depart Milne for Townsville.

Milne Bay D+1: Sure enough, KB is sliding down the east coast, Soryu escaping an ambush by a USN sub. DS is not far from Portland Roads and appears undetected. The amphibs are at Cairns and will proceed to Portland at flank speed. At Milne, 500 Allied AV fully prepped results in an adjusted AV of 95 (what the heck?) vs. 65 enemy AV. 1 to 1 drops forts from 4 to 3 and does more damage to the enemy. Another attack tomorrow. Then my guys will need rest. CVE Liscome Bay succumbed to her grievous damage and went under, carrying a squadron of F4Fs and one of TBFs.




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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/1/2019 3:29:11 PM   
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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/1/2019 3:38:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, losing good ships is no fun but part of the friction of offensive campaigning. That's the first CVE lost. Two others that were heavily damaged long ago managed to make port for full repairs.

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/1/2019 3:40:27 PM   
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New Guinea: When KB moved down New Guinea's east coast, I countered by moving DS + Merauke invasion force west. He countered (I think) by moving KB back to Sorong, from where he can intercept. Now I've countered by preparing the Port Moresby invasion force. He shouldn't be able to cover both Merauke and PM, creating some pressure.






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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/1/2019 4:11:47 PM   
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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/1/2019 5:42:55 PM   
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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/1/2019 6:35:42 PM   
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I did NOT get into trouble for messing with my First Sergeant's mind . . .

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/1/2019 7:01:48 PM   
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KB: No visuals but a sub near Sorong reports 10/10 detection and an encounter with a Judy. So Dave shifted KB back to handle a possible invasion of Merauke. DS & The Herd took station near Horn Island. Tomorrow they'll move SE a bit, taking cover between Portland Roads and Cairns, CAP augmented by LBA. While this is going on, the Port Moresby invasion force is assembling at Townsville. The ships are there, an Aussie division and armored brigade are present, and Americal Division is en route but at least five days out (railing from Kalgoorlie).

Milne Bay: The two Aussie divisions get a 3:1 and drop forts to zero. So the base almost certainly will fall tomorrow. The Aussies are still woefully underperforming - I suspect the supreme commander (moi) is at fault in some way or other.

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/1/2019 7:21:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Okay, wise guy, I think I found the mistake and fixed it. Darn it, words are slippery, elusive things...and trying to string them together properly is vexing beyond belief!


It happens when you think faster than you type!!

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/1/2019 8:22:33 PM   
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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/1/2019 8:23:51 PM   
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KB:

Milne Bay: Falls to the Aussie invaders.




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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/1/2019 8:34:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		Basically, you're daring him to approach the Torres Strait?

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/1/2019 9:12:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		At the moment, I'm trying to get him to commit to one side of New Guinea or the other. Two amphibious ops are about ready to get underway but are dependent on KB not being close enough to react.

I don't want to take on KB quite yet. It's too close to even. Reinforcements aren't too far away (1 CV, 1 CVL, 5 CVE) but they are occupied elsewhere for the next two weeks.

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/1/2019 9:50:33 PM   
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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/1/2019 10:04:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		My subs are out of position - all in the Solomon Sea, in anticipation that KB would come via that route. It would take a long time to recall patrolling subs to ports equipped to load mines, etc.

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/1/2019 11:14:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Any chance of flipping Horn Island to a US command and rolling out some PT Boats? A few PT Boat flotillas or SAGs (if you can spare the ships) could be a fox in the henhouse.

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/2/2019 12:17:14 AM   
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It'll cost 300 political points to change to a US command (10% of what's available). I'm not sure I have enough supply to build PT boats, but I'll give it a look.

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/2/2019 11:51:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		If there are any British MTBs in the pool you should be able to deploy them without having to change the command of the base.

The PT boat button not being grayed out at a commonwealth commanded base is a sign there are MTBs in the pool.

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/2/2019 2:12:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Can't remember offhand, but isn't there some way to get USN PT's at a non-US base? Unloading US ships or... something? Could swear I read that somewhere and did it once...

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/2/2019 2:16:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		US supplies should enable US PT boats to be built. How the game keeps track of that, I do not know. At least we don't have to have tankers carry them from the US.

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/2/2019 2:17:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		At present, supply is too low to allow PT boat at Horn, even if the base is switched to a US command. MTBs aren't available either. I only have 2k supply at the base. That's enough to handle patrols, which is the biggest need. Knowing what I think I know about Dave, he will not try to force the Torres Strait. John III might; Dave won't.

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/2/2019 2:22:01 PM   
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US supplies should enable US PT boats to be built. How the game keeps track of that, I do not know. At least we don't have to have tankers carry them from the US.

In effect you do - you can only make US PTs at a non-US base if you bring in a TF with at least 20K supply that was loaded in the US. IIRC, the PTs are made in batches of 12, and then if you try to make another batch, a check is made to see if there is still over 20K supply in the TF.

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/2/2019 2:23:22 PM   
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New Guinea: Dave pulled KB back "into the shades." I haven't had detection in about three turns, though a sub near Ambon does have elevated detection, so that's my best guess as to it's location. DS is escorting two real invasion convoys but I won't pull the trigger for final approach until I know KB's exact position. Until then, DS's main job is to keep Dave focused on the Port Moresby region while a third invasion armada approaches its target, protected by seven CV/CVL/CVE, which should be enough as long as KB is far away.

China: MLB remains intact. Since there aren't any ships involved, us ship-centric AE players pay li'l attention to that theater, but it's probably the most important thing going on at the moment.

Points: Japan leads 28.2k to 19.8k. Those are small numbers. I think when I stepped in for SqzMyLemon in his game with Obvert effective 3/1/44, Japan led about 52k to about 26k. I really like the score in this game, because the denominator (Japan's points) are low, while the Allies have done a tremendous amount of work getting big armies in place to handle the major campaigns through the autumn of '44. There won't be any dead time going forward, unless I lose another lopsided carrier battle. The Allies are fighting efficiently, and I like the "lay of the land."




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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/2/2019 2:54:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Can you afford an APD or two to try and pick up those Aussie troops isolated between Buna and Salamaua?

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/2/2019 3:47:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		The could be a nice blocking force if he were to decide to isolate Port Moresby . . .

As for the subs, make some good ASW TFs with good naval and moderate aggression, maybe in a wedge formation even. Then follow them. Don't forget night naval search to keep the detection levels up.

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/2/2019 4:12:50 PM   
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Can you afford an APD or two to try and pick up those Aussie troops isolated between Buna and Salamaua?


Those guys have been there since Port Moresby/Buna fell at the start of the war. It's not worth risking APDs in hostile waters to recover them. It's more likely that Dave will be evacuating PM and Buna in a month or less, so that offers the best chance of rescuing those soldiers.

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/2/2019 4:15:52 PM   
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The could be a nice blocking force if he were to decide to isolate Port Moresby . . .

As for the subs, make some good ASW TFs with good naval and moderate aggression, maybe in a wedge formation even. Then follow them. Don't forget night naval search to keep the detection levels up.


Several smaller ASW TFs will move on those subs tonight, under LRCAP from Milne and DS. A big DE TF is inbound from the Marshalls and will enhance ASW duties (DS & The Herd have plenty of ASW, but they'll stay in place to protect the big boys).

Allied ASW sank an 11-point enemy sub near Ceylon and an 11-pointer near Eniwetok and heavily damaged an RO-boat near Eniwetok. Perhaps that good work will continue near PM over the coming days.

D-Day "elsewhere" is the day after tomorrow. Dave doesn't have detection on the approaching amphibs, so far as I know.

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/2/2019 4:31:20 PM   
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KB: Dave's hiding it, which is giving me a case of the willies. A sizeable invasion force is approaching Ponape. I'm pretty sure (but not positive) that KB is no closer than Sorong. Nevertheless, thoughts of what might befall if I'm wrong have me unsettled. But not enough to scrub the mission.




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