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Bad weather - 8/12/2019 1:16:42 PM

sapper32

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Is bad weather set at the same chance of occurring for both sides, I'm asking this as it seems that I get battered by Axis air then on my turn it's snowing or there is a sandstorm, If it's Axis turn 10 and clear will it be clear on Allied turn 10 ?

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RE: Bad weather - 8/12/2019 5:27:08 PM

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Weather is determined at the beginning of each turn, be it axis or allied. It can be a little frustrating if you're unlucky with the rolls! One thing I'm wondering is if weather is scripted to some extent, the 1942-43 winter in the east always seem a little milder than the 1941-42 one...

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RE: Bad weather - 8/12/2019 6:00:17 PM

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Ok so it is determined at the start of every turn, I guess I've had some bad luck, I wonder if the weather follows a historical pattern

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RE: Bad weather - 8/12/2019 6:39:55 PM

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Hi sapper32

As a rule of thumb the weather will always favour your opponent.

I our game its in my favour, in lots of my other games its against me.

We all know the frustration it causes.

There is a good discussion on it in the WiE forums, Bill and Hubert have given good feedback and the reasons for how the weather is set up in it.

Its well worth the read

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RE: Bad weather - 8/12/2019 7:31:49 PM

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Thanks for that will have a read through and see what there saying,I guess the way it works could realy work against a player if your unlucky, Ive had Sandstorms over my air units and the target hex was clear while the enemy air was in the clear and able to attack my front line units.

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RE: Bad weather - 8/12/2019 11:27:51 PM

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I would vastly prefer to have the same weather conditions for both sides during the same turn. For example, weather can decide carrier battles by being bad weather over one side and good for the other side. Having the same weather is the only fair way for both sides.

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RE: Bad weather - 8/13/2019 9:12:33 AM

sapper32

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Yeah that makes sense too have the same weather each turn it seems fair.

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RE: Bad weather - 8/18/2019 1:29:46 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: taffjones

As a rule of thumb the weather will always favour your opponent.

Exactly my experience.

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RE: Bad weather - 8/19/2019 3:05:14 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: sapper32

Yeah that makes sense too have the same weather each turn it seems fair.

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Mithrilotter

Playing with the "same weather for both sides of a turn", is only the same weather for the Axis and then the Allies, but not necessarily the same for the Allies and then Axis.

For example, Axis goes first in most of the campaigns, so the Allies are always second under any specific date, i.e. before the date and weather advances to the next turn date and weather.

From 1939 to let's say 1941, when the Axis are on the offensive, the Allies can always be guaranteed to defend/respond to any Axis aggression with the same weather.

However, once the balance tips and the Allies go on more offensives later on in game, because the Allies go second under a specific date, the Axis, which is now on the defensive, is not guaranteed the same weather to respond to any Allied attacks.

Why? Because the date rolls over to the next date after an Allied turn, and the weather only possibly changes between Allied and Axis turns, whereas the weather is always guaranteed between an Axis and Allied turn when you play with same weather for both sides.

Essentially, and because the turns are alternate and not simultaneous, I would argue that even in a system where "weather is the same for both sides", you'll reach a point where weather is not the same for both sides depending upon who has the initiative.

At least with the current more random system, while not perfect, weather can at times be the same, or different etc., with no clear advantage to one side or the other.

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