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RE: This Game is BORKED! - 8/17/2019 9:30:33 PM

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They were also probably hungry and knew that the best way to get some food was to let the Japanese get close, knife then, and then get their food.

...are we endorsing cannibalism here...

The Allies turned loose the headhunters of New Guinea on shipwrecked Japanese after the battle of the Bismarck Sea.

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RE: This Game is BORKED! - 8/17/2019 10:14:06 PM

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They were also probably hungry and knew that the best way to get some food was to let the Japanese get close, knife then, and then get their food.

John 3rd

...are we endorsing cannibalism here...

Nope, but some members of the Japanese military did practice it.

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RE: This Game is BORKED! - 8/18/2019 1:05:28 AM

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Yes, because it's firepower that causes casualties, not assault value.

Yeah, Allied firepower is scary

Ground combat at 211,44 (near Kamloops)
Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 13596 troops, 130 guns, 69 vehicles, Assault Value = 447
Defending force 1059 troops, 91 guns, 73 vehicles, Assault Value = 4

Japanese adjusted assault: 383
Allied adjusted defense: 7

Japanese assault odds: 54 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
30 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
5th Division

Defending units:
181st Field Artillery Regiment
168th Field Artillery Regiment
110th Combat Engineer Battalion
40th Field Artillery Regiment

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RE: This Game is BORKED! - 8/18/2019 2:30:50 AM

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Three artillery regiments back up by combat engineers? If they can get through the artillery bombardment, they would get blown up and toasted.

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RE: This Game is BORKED! - 8/18/2019 4:18:07 AM

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Snake Eyes!

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RE: This Game is BORKED! - 8/18/2019 5:08:44 AM

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ORIGINAL: GetAssista

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ORIGINAL: HansBolter
Yes, because it's firepower that causes casualties, not assault value.

Yeah, Allied firepower is scary

Ground combat at 211,44 (near Kamloops)
Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 13596 troops, 130 guns, 69 vehicles, Assault Value = 447
Defending force 1059 troops, 91 guns, 73 vehicles, Assault Value = 4

Japanese adjusted assault: 383
Allied adjusted defense: 7

Japanese assault odds: 54 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
30 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
5th Division

Defending units:
181st Field Artillery Regiment
168th Field Artillery Regiment
110th Combat Engineer Battalion
40th Field Artillery Regiment

Yep, a kamloopsided result. Straya, mate!

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RE: This Game is BORKED! - 8/18/2019 12:59:47 PM

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Your higher than expected casualties is in part due to your being "overstacked" by 12,000 men. perhaps even more than 12,000.

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RE: This Game is BORKED! - 8/18/2019 8:55:31 PM

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I agree, it is an outlier. 4:1 and I suffer almost 10x the losses. But, hey, we've all experienced this type of outcome. Not happily, but we have.

Just think of some of the reactions 5 years ago � there would have been some major rants �

Judging by losses you guys happened to attack Allied tanks in a bayonet charge. It happens

Yep.

But think back if this had happened to Ol' Rantin' Castor Troy!!!!
We could have been entertained for at least a week! Sheesh, I do miss him around here ...

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RE: This Game is BORKED! - 8/18/2019 8:59:04 PM

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ORIGINAL: PaxMondo
I agree, it is an outlier. 4:1 and I suffer almost 10x the losses. But, hey, we've all experienced this type of outcome. Not happily, but we have.

Just think of some of the reactions 5 years ago � there would have been some major rants �

Judging by losses you guys happened to attack Allied tanks in a bayonet charge. It happens

Yep.

But think back if this had happened to Ol' Rantin' Castor Troy!!!!
We could have been entertained for at least a week! Sheesh, I do miss him around here ...

The Rantor is back. He's looking for a Japanese player I believe....GP

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RE: This Game is BORKED! - 8/19/2019 4:12:56 AM

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Is he, great news!

He is always looking for a JFB to pick on!

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RE: This Game is BORKED! - 8/19/2019 4:51:56 AM

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Pax, check out this thread:

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4668748&mpage=1&key=

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RE: This Game is BORKED! - 8/20/2019 1:18:56 AM

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I don't see anything odd in these results. The first thing to consider is AV does not equal firepower (CR has shown us in his AARs that low odds tank attacks can be quite effective). The Allies had a lot of tanks which did a lot of damage but actually took a bath in the first attack, allowing the second IJ attack to come off much better.

Cheers,
CB

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