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ORIGINAL: gosnold Some request on French forces: Weapons: Mica-NG infrared Mica-NG active radar Those are new version of the Mica AAMs (DB ID 1872 and 1873) Main changes are upgraded seekers (with an AESA for the radar), more propellant volume and a dual-pulse engine: quote:
More specifically, the infrared seeker will use a matrix sensor providing greater sensitivity. Meanwhile the radio frequency seeker will use an AESA (Active Electronically Scanned Antenna), enabling smart detection strategies. The reduced volume of electronic components within MICA NG will allow it to carry a larger quantity of propellant, thereby significantly extending the range of the missile. Utilising a new double-pulse rocket motor will also provide additional energy to the missile at the end of its flight to improve manoeuvrability and the ability to intercept targets at long range. manufacturer PR IOC 2026, will be carried by Rafale, Mirage 200D and Mirage 200-5: source The main issue for DB addition is the range. Current MICAs are modelled with 45nm range. As a comparison, the AMRAAM went from 60nm to 75nm range in the DB from the -C7 do the -D, which apparently introduced a dual pulse engine. That's a 25% increase. So Mica-NG should have the same increase at least, giving a range of 55nm. Also, Mica are CEC capable, this should be added in the DB, it's important with the recent air warfare changes. There was a test of a Mica radar version with designation from another platform, with the target behind the shooter: source Aircraft: Mirage 2000D MLU It is an upgrade of the Mirage 2000D (DB ID 3931), with the main changes being the addition of a podded canon, and the replacement of the Magic II AAM by Mica IR: https://www.defense.gouv.fr/actualites/la-vie-du-ministere/le-ministere-commande-la-renovation-a-mi-vie-des-mirage-2000-d picture of a test flight: https://ftp.evac-fr.net/ergo/images/2000D_RMV.JPG IOC 2020, 55x: source: budget documents Armed Reaper UAV The reaper UAV are represented as unarmed in the database (ID 3231). Starting from 2019 they will be armed: source Since France has ordered 6 block I and 6 block 5, I suggest to add the block 5 with an IOC of 2019 (basically clone the US block 5 DB ID 4536) SDAM drone A drone helo to be carried by the frigates: will carry a radar and an IR turret at the same time, 10hours of autonomy, 15kg fuel/hr, 4hr of maintenace every 50hr (so the ready time should be much shorter than a traditional helo), top speed 185km/h, max altitude 6000m. Will come as an addition to the existing helo since it can fit in the remaining space in the hangars due to its small size IOC 2028 source also here also here Ships Air defense version of the FREMM (FREMM AAW) Already exists in the DB as the 2022 version of the FREMM ASW (DB ID 2794). The ASW should be replaced by AAW to avoid confusion Intermediate size frigate 5x, IOC 2025 Basically a FREMM ASW with the 16 MdCN removed, and the radar replaced by a fixed-plate Seafire AESA. The CAPTAS towed sonar is also replaced by a lighter version with the same performance called CAPTAS nano: manufacturer PR full specs at wikipedia, primary source upgraded Lafayette frigates 3x, IOC 2021 An upgraded version of DB ID 2520, with an added bow sonar, and the Crotale SHORAD replaced by two SADRAL Mistral launchers. Will use block III exocest but that's already the case in the DB quote:
The firing facilities of the 8 anti-ship missiles, now the Exocet MM40 Block2, will be modified for the implementation of Exocet Block3/Block3c. The Crotale system with its 8 missiles in battery and 16 in cargo hold will be landed and replaced by two Sadral with 6 Mistral missiles each. These systems will come from the former anti-submarine frigates Dupleix, Montcalm and Jean de Vienne, which were retired in 2014, 2017 and 2018. Upgraded, the Sadral will implement the latest version of the Mistral, with an improved self-director to increase anti-missile capability and also to address asymmetric threats, including surface targets such as fast boats. The renovated FLFs will also be equipped with the new KingKlip Mk2 hull sonar, which will give them an anti-submarine warfare capability that these vessels have hitherto lacked (only the Surcouf is equipped on an experimental basis with a BlueWatcher hull sonar since 2017). source To expand on the request for the air defense version of the FREMM. There will be 2 ships- named Alsace and Lorraine- so DB name should be changed. The differences from the DB are: add STIR EO Mk2 and remove Najir add extended range variant of Herakles radar to replace current Herakles add 2x Sylver A50 with 32 cells for Aster 15/30 and remove Sylver A70 https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2019/04/pictures-naval-group-launched-alsace-the-1st-fremm-da-for-the-french-navy/ https://www.janes.com/article/83618/first-freda-frigate-takes-shape https://www.thalesgroup.com/sites/default/files/database/d7/asset/document/Datasheet%20STIR%201.2_DS159_10_12_HR.pdf And additional info on intermediate frigate (aka FTI) length- 122m beam-17.7m displacement- 4,200t mounts- VLS will be 16 cell Sylver 50, o/w same as FREMM #2794 sensors- Sea Fire 4 faced fixed array air/surface radar replace Herakles and scanter, Kingklip hull sonar, compact CAPTAS, otherwise same as FREMM https://www.naval-technology.com/projects/fti-medium-size-frigates/ https://www.janes.com/article/83950/face-facts-sea-fire-multifunction-radar-takes-shape-for-fti-frigate
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