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RE: Bacon Mod - 7/24/2019 7:44:40 AM

HAL2000

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I am experiencing weird FPS issues with the Bacon Mod. When I run the game at x4 speed every 2-3 minutes the game starts stuttering and runs at about 10 FPS.

I normally start the game on pre-warp and it usually starts occuring when my ships start warping out of the initial system. About 30 seconds after the stuttering starts the frame rate goes back to normal and then the problem repeats 2-3 minutes later.

I despise the gravity well mechanic and I've tried to turn it off in the BaconSettings.txt text file however my ships still fly to the edge of the system before they warp out. Am I doing something wrong in the text file?

// Valid values are 'true' or 'false' without the quotes.
useStarGravityWells=false

The game runs at 60 FPS quite happily in vanilla and when using Extended Universe and other mods.

I've tried completely reinstalling the game but it has not helped.

Is there anything you can suggest to remedy the problem with the FPS? The periodical stuttering is a complete buzz kill and I'd love to play the game with the mod enabled.

I have tried turning off the range circles and empire influence but the problem persists.

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RE: Bacon Mod - 7/24/2019 8:26:38 AM

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Disabling the !rangecircle seemed to fix the issue with the FPS.

However my ships seem to still be bound by the gravity well of the star despite the fact I turned off the gravity wells in the settings.

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RE: Bacon Mod - 7/24/2019 11:23:30 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: HAL2000

Disabling the !rangecircle seemed to fix the issue with the FPS.

However my ships seem to still be bound by the gravity well of the star despite the fact I turned off the gravity wells in the settings.

Ships that were heading to the edge of a gravity well will continue to do so after disabling the gravity wells. Try giving them a new order and they should jump right away.

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RE: Bacon Mod - 7/27/2019 9:54:12 PM

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Hi there,

I tried using the links to download the mod but unfortunately the links are dead.
Any chance of uploading them again or giving me an alternative place where to get it?

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RE: Bacon Mod - 7/28/2019 2:45:10 AM

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ORIGINAL: Innocentius

Hi there,

I tried using the links to download the mod but unfortunately the links are dead.
Any chance of uploading them again or giving me an alternative place where to get it?

Same thing here... Any alternate source?

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RE: Bacon Mod - 7/31/2019 5:16:00 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: mark_valley

quote:

ORIGINAL: Innocentius

Hi there,

I tried using the links to download the mod but unfortunately the links are dead.
Any chance of uploading them again or giving me an alternative place where to get it?

Same thing here... Any alternate source?

Just adding my voice to the others. Went to re-install DW:U after some time off and can't seem to get the Bacon Mod anywhere.

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RE: Bacon Mod - 7/31/2019 6:13:56 PM

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I asked on reddit and somebody found where to get the 1.67 version.
Unfortunately I am not allowed to post links here but search for r/DistandWorlds and you should find my post called 'Download location bacon mod?'
In there somebody linked where to get 1.67

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RE: Bacon Mod - 8/1/2019 9:16:36 PM

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Went to redit and in r/DistantWorlds someone also posted a link to 1.77 which seems to work.

Thanks for pointing out that thread Innocentius.

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RE: Bacon Mod - 8/4/2019 9:00:02 AM

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Holy crap. I've been out of the country for the past week. I just checked and Dropbox deleted all of my files. Fortunately there is a restore option and I jsut used it so all files should be back. I have no idea how they all got deleted. Also, I'm glad someone on Reddit has copies.

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RE: Bacon Mod - 8/13/2019 8:28:11 AM

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Hello everyone, While using this great mod I seem to be running into a bug that is causing me some issues. If you take a quick look at the screenshot I gave, every so often one of or more of my ships makes a vector to the top left corner of the galaxy. Usually this happens if its A.) (Ship on the left) A construction ship building a station. Or B.) Any other ship using its hyperdrive. It does not happen all the time however it does happen often enough that is becoming an issue. I've had to stop dozens of state ships from flying to the other side of the galaxy for no reason. Anyone else tracking this bug or is there a fix I haven't seen. Tried searching for Corner, Edge and similar in the search bar but nothing came up.

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RE: Bacon Mod - 8/15/2019 2:59:08 PM

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bluestrike15,

I am using the same mod and have the same lines running to the top left quadrant as you. i my screen shot a constructor is building a mining station so the line shown may just be a graphical glitch as no ships seem to actually wander off to the left corner.

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RE: Bacon Mod - 8/15/2019 3:11:23 PM

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bluestrike 15,

Further to my previous post , once the Constructor had finished the Mining Station it stopped and advised that the mission had been completed. The vector line to the top left vanished when the ship moved to the edge of the planet. Do your ships actually move towards the top left edge as mine would not have the range at present to move that far.

DavidR

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RE: Bacon Mod - 8/15/2019 5:59:49 PM

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I don't think this issue is limited to the Bacon Mod as I'm not using it but have seen the issue a couple of times. Not sure if there is a fix for this.

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RE: Bacon Mod - 8/16/2019 12:40:25 AM

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When a constructor is building something, espicially if it is waiting for supplies to finish construction, it's mission target is null. That is interpreted by the game as having a 0,0 x,y coordinate. That is why the movement vector points to the upper left corner of the map (0,0).

At one time there was a bug where ships would actually travel to 0,0 but I'm 99% sure its fixed. I haven't seen it in over a year.

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RE: Bacon Mod - 8/16/2019 11:18:30 PM

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I have actually had ships (Mostly explorers) try to run up to the edge before. I usually have them on "Explore x Sector" Missions if that helps narrow down the problem.

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RE: Bacon Mod - 8/24/2019 9:43:27 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: bluestrike15

I have actually had ships (Mostly explorers) try to run up to the edge before. I usually have them on "Explore x Sector" Missions if that helps narrow down the problem.

Same here - explorers go to 0,0 when told to explore specific sector.

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RE: Bacon Mod - 8/25/2019 1:13:04 PM

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ORIGINAL: rmse17

quote:

ORIGINAL: bluestrike15

I have actually had ships (Mostly explorers) try to run up to the edge before. I usually have them on "Explore x Sector" Missions if that helps narrow down the problem.

Same here - explorers go to 0,0 when told to explore specific sector.

So here's how it works behind the scense. A ship has a mission. A mission have many fields including (from memory) target, habitatTarget, builtObjectTarget, creatureTarget, and maybe more. Depending on what type of mission it is one of those fields will hold the X,Y values to go to. I had to take into account a lot of things when I added gravity wells and epicially when I taught the AI how to find the shortest path out of a gravity well. It seems that searching a sector is one scenario I didn't cover as I never ordered a scout to do that. Searching a system works though. So it might be best just to tell the scout to search a system. You can use a reminder note (!note) to notify you when it is done. Personally I always have my scouts on auto explore. Also, don't forget to add labs to your scouts so they can be researching for you as science ships. In most of the playthrough videos of people using my mod nobody ever does that for some reason.

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RE: Bacon Mod - 8/25/2019 5:24:13 PM

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Any way to turn off the state freighters and such? I have never had problems with them that detract from the game. I would love to turn them off so that I don't accidentally build 100s when bulk ordering suggested ships.

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RE: Bacon Mod - 8/30/2019 2:53:49 PM

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Your work is amazing.

it is like you are working your way through the suggestion thread for DW/DW2

Since you are that active with modding I was wondering, if you might have the PDF of the full modding guide for DW:U ?
Sadly the link on the forum and slytherin page is no longer available and there are no alternative downloads only links to the official site

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RE: Bacon Mod - 8/31/2019 2:25:48 AM

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ORIGINAL: Emperor0Akim

Your work is amazing.

it is like you are working your way through the suggestion thread for DW/DW2

Since you are that active with modding I was wondering, if you might have the PDF of the full modding guide for DW:U ?
Sadly the link on the forum and slytherin page is no longer available and there are no alternative downloads only links to the official site

Thanks.

You are in luck. I do have it:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/aeo3ogg4dc0pr90/DW%20Universe%20Modding%20Guide%20EBOOK.pdf?dl=0

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RE: Bacon Mod - 8/31/2019 11:33:28 AM

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Thank you, blessed be the ground you walk upon.

===== EDIT =====

and because I read your answer before I looked in the thread for the Modding Guide ...

I let the author speak for himself :

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ORIGINAL: USSAmerica

Guys, the DWU Modding Guide was probably removed from web access after the game was released. It is included with the game. It can be found in your ..\DWU\Manuals folder.

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RE: Bacon Mod - 9/24/2019 9:09:18 PM

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First of all thanks for a great work!
I am back again and again to DWU partially because of this mod.

I have just updated to 1.77 (from I believe something like 1.66) and I have found some strange behaviour with my colony regarding taxes, happiness and development.
I have started new game using RetreatEU scheme.

The problems are:
- my colony has always "The current tax rate is to high!(-5)" modifier even on tax level 0
- happiness seems to ignore tax level (as mentioned above it stuck at -5 modifier),
- there is no change to growth based on happiness/tax,
- my development level stuck at 50% (it even drop from the game start) with 3,7G population and having tones of 3 luxuries and some of every other.

I had wait a few months in game to check if modifiers gets recalculated but no.

Does anybody have similar problem?
I will try to downgrade bacon mod tomorrow just to be sure if this was mod fault but apart from bacon I had not changed anything else.

EDIT:
It looks like it is not problem with Bacon mod (at least part regarding modifiers).
After some testing it looks like Corporate Nationalism lock hapinness modifier.
It may be even intended although it is not described in Galactopedia.

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Terraforming for the Bots? - 10/30/2019 6:46:56 PM

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I have been playing some BaconRetreat lately and it seems that the computer factions don't build terraforming facilities (from a Tech 5, old empires start, so they have the tech and they have the economy to do so - but they don't.
Is there something I can do about that?
Maybe a setting that I overlooked?
I really like this feature, which allows me to settle everything that isn't up on a tree by the count of three, but being the only one to convert all those below 50% worlds kind of gives me an unfair advantage (like having over a hundred colonies, not a single shot fired (except at that one sand slug), while everybody else is at each others throats trying to breach twenty).

Thanks for sharing this fun mod by the way.

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RE: Terraforming for the Bots? - 10/30/2019 10:42:32 PM

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Retreat was made before baconmod in a time when terraforming facilities were useless. Therefore I kept them out of the AI build.

Feel free to modify to your hearts content.

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RE: Terraforming for the Bots? - 10/31/2019 6:02:57 AM

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How would I go about doing that?
In particular I would like the computer to settle those low-quality worlds in the first place.
The Policy files already show
"ColonyAllowFacilityTerraformingFacility ;Y"
with a threshold of 500 for all the races I randomly checked
which is unchanged from vanilla.
The only thing I could do there would be to set the threshold to 1, which I suspect would only lead to more elegible planets not being served, but I will try that.

I was hoping for something like
"allowAsteroidColonies=true
asteroidColonyPrevalenceDivisor=100" (from the bacon settings files) - just for low qualiy worlds,
but any pointer to where to influence the "AI build" (in addition to Policies) would be helpful too.

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RE: Terraforming for the Bots? - 10/31/2019 6:30:08 PM

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It's been A LONG time since I've played or modded, but I would suspect no one researches it. Adding it to the research queue in the correct spot should fix it.

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RE: Terraforming for the Bots? - 10/31/2019 8:19:31 PM

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Turns out that this was a dead end.
Twenty races had it, 24 did not, plus mechanoid and shakturi who have everything right out of the door.
My game setup was starting Tech 5 anyway, so everyone should have had it regardless of the scripted path.
But to be sure I added it on the remaining ones, right after the parent project (continental terraforming).

Thanks for trying though.

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RE: Terraforming for the Bots? - 11/6/2019 5:03:06 PM

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Great mod with nice features! But i wonder if it's the right the pirates got that very high costs and maintenance cost? After doing my first game i recognized lower pirate activity as usual. Loaded up as pirates and i got there ridiculous costs and higher maintenance costs. Don't know if this is wad? When i change the costs factor for pirates(shipMarkupFactorPirates) to a non floating number like 2 and 3 the costs are very near to vanilla. Putting 2.5 back then the costs are like e.g. 60k to build a copy of the starting pirate base.

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RE: Bacon Mod - 11/6/2019 7:45:37 PM

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ORIGINAL: RogerBacon

Thanks.

You are in luck. I do have it:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/aeo3ogg4dc0pr90/DW%20Universe%20Modding%20Guide%20EBOOK.pdf?dl=0

Isn't this the same modding guide as what is found in the Manuals folder of the Distant Worlds Universe folder which is added during the install.... or is this another version?

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RE: Bacon Mod - 11/6/2019 10:44:36 PM

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ORIGINAL: rjord1

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ORIGINAL: RogerBacon

Thanks.

You are in luck. I do have it:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/aeo3ogg4dc0pr90/DW%20Universe%20Modding%20Guide%20EBOOK.pdf?dl=0

Isn't this the same modding guide as what is found in the Manuals folder of the Distant Worlds Universe folder which is added during the install.... or is this another version?

Its the same. Both the person asking for it and I forgot that it is included in the game.

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