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ORIGINAL: DConn

It is based on the "nationality" of the ground unit (as defined in the game). For example, USN and USMC are a different "nationality" than US Army units. From memory, the following nationalities cannot use strategic road movement: USN, USMC, Commonwealth, Chinese. (There may be others; my memory isn't so good!)

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The workaround Ranger Joe mentioned (setting non-capable units to follow a Strat-Rd capable one) is fine when you are playing the AI but would likely raise objections in a PBEM game. It looks the me like the game designers did not intend that else they would have made all the units Strat-Rd capable.

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ORIGINAL: Ian R

In he latest beta -

US Army, British, Indian, Canadian, Aust, NZ are all road strategic move capable.

USN, China, the Soviets are not. Dutch/NEI are not. CW units are not (not even the proper African divisions and brigades, so do not send them to China).

Not sure about French land units.

It is strictly by nationality. TOE has no effect.

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ORIGINAL: Gridley380

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ORIGINAL: Ian R

In he latest beta -

US Army, British, Indian, Canadian, Aust, NZ are all road strategic move capable.

USN, China, the Soviets are not. Dutch/NEI are not. CW units are not (not even the proper African divisions and brigades, so do not send them to China).

Not sure about French land units.

It is strictly by nationality. TOE has no effect.

USMC? I don't recall that I've tried to do a strategic road move with a USMC unit... well, ever, but now I'm curious. :-)

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

USMC is not capable of strat movement by road because their role as a landing force did not provide troop/supply trucks in their TOE. They were meant to land and stay within walking distance of the beach (at least back then they were). USArmy para units might also be excluded from strat move by road for the same reason as the USMC. Such vehicles as the USMC units have are likely jeeps and other light vehicles.

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ORIGINAL: Gridley380

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

USMC is not capable of strat movement by road because their role as a landing force did not provide troop/supply trucks in their TOE. They were meant to land and stay within walking distance of the beach (at least back then they were). USArmy para units might also be excluded from strat move by road for the same reason as the USMC. Such vehicles as the USMC units have are likely jeeps and other light vehicles.

Well, actually, a Series F USMC division (for example) had over 200 "deuce and a halves" (a quarter of them with dump truck bodies). Granted, the division only had about 2/3 the motor vehicles of the contemporary Army infantry division TOE while having a quarter again the manpower.

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

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ORIGINAL: Gridley380

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

USMC is not capable of strat movement by road because their role as a landing force did not provide troop/supply trucks in their TOE. They were meant to land and stay within walking distance of the beach (at least back then they were). USArmy para units might also be excluded from strat move by road for the same reason as the USMC. Such vehicles as the USMC units have are likely jeeps and other light vehicles.

Well, actually, a Series F USMC division (for example) had over 200 "deuce and a halves" (a quarter of them with dump truck bodies). Granted, the division only had about 2/3 the motor vehicles of the contemporary Army infantry division TOE while having a quarter again the manpower.

Are you talking about "back then" or now?

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ORIGINAL: Gridley380

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

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ORIGINAL: Gridley380

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

USMC is not capable of strat movement by road because their role as a landing force did not provide troop/supply trucks in their TOE. They were meant to land and stay within walking distance of the beach (at least back then they were). USArmy para units might also be excluded from strat move by road for the same reason as the USMC. Such vehicles as the USMC units have are likely jeeps and other light vehicles.

Well, actually, a Series F USMC division (for example) had over 200 "deuce and a halves" (a quarter of them with dump truck bodies). Granted, the division only had about 2/3 the motor vehicles of the contemporary Army infantry division TOE while having a quarter again the manpower.

Are you talking about "back then" or now?

Series F was adopted circa May '44.

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

The US Army also had a lot of transportation companies with lots of trucks not represented in the game unless those are the motorized support in the HQs.

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ORIGINAL: Ian R

Update: The French can't strategic road march.

I find this odd, given that the CEFEO was basically equipped as a Free French US TOE ground force.

I guess the developers had the reasons (and there were no FF units in stock, as far as I can remember).

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

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ORIGINAL: DConn

It is based on the "nationality" of the ground unit (as defined in the game). For example, USN and USMC are a different "nationality" than US Army units. From memory, the following nationalities cannot use strategic road movement: USN, USMC, Commonwealth, Chinese. (There may be others; my memory isn't so good!)

US Army and British Army units all can use Strat mode on grey roads. (No units can Strat move on dirt roads). I think some Australian units might also be able to Strat move on the road. The idea is that the US and British units have the necessary vehicles for this type of movement and other nations do not. Some of the Aussie units may be working with a British or US TOE that allows them to travel thusly.

The workaround Ranger Joe mentioned (setting non-capable units to follow a Strat-Rd capable one) is fine when you are playing the AI but would likely raise objections in a PBEM game. It looks the me like the game designers did not intend that else they would have made all the units Strat-Rd capable.