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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/30/2019 6:56:17 PM   
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Battle of Timor Sea: One of three USN DDs ordered to patrol Koepang tangles with an IJN sub en route.




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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/30/2019 7:01:55 PM   
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Battle of Timor Sea: Three Fletcher stick their nose in a hornet's nest.




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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/30/2019 7:08:27 PM   
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Battle of Timor Sea: While DS is approaching Koepang from the SE, a CVE Mini DS is approaching DS from off Broome. Convergence of power and grave danger to the escort carriers, if Dave moved KB this way.




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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/30/2019 7:14:07 PM   
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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/30/2019 7:21:20 PM   
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Battle of Timor Sea: Fletchers low on ammo take on a powerful combat TF. Fletchers are good but not that good!




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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/30/2019 7:22:37 PM   
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I like the way you do this AAR with a global map pic and text boxes. I think I'm gunna flatter you through imitation.


It took me years of tinkering to develop my way of presenting things - I'm a slow learner. Glad to have you or anybody else emulate. :)

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/30/2019 7:25:45 PM   
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Battle of Timor Sea: I was wrong. All four YMSs were sunk, not just three. This last one provided info on a second powerful combat TF.




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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/30/2019 7:29:25 PM   
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Battle of Timor Sea: A USN sub hits an enemy DD that wasn't part of the two combat TFs in action at Koepang. This might be part of KB. The smoke it was blowing before the sub fired might have been from the high speed runs KB made against Port Headland, some two weeks ago.




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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/30/2019 7:31:36 PM   
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Battle of Timor Sea: ASW continues to work on enemy subs (but not as effectively as I'd wish).




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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/30/2019 7:36:45 PM   
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Battle of Timor Sea: Early in the a.m. air search phase, Japanese aircraft find the major Allied TFs.




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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/30/2019 7:43:11 PM   
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Battle of Timor Sea: CVE Mini DS wards off a couple of strikes from Koepang.

(Up until this moment, I thought from reading the Combat Report that the enemy strike had come from Broome, a level 3 airfield. And, in entering orders yesterday, I felt pretty sure that DS, parked right next to Koepang, would draw any attacks from that airfield.)




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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/30/2019 7:54:51 PM   
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Hoping for the best on both accounts,
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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/30/2019 8:00:19 PM   
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Battle of Timor Sea: Allied carriers launch the first big strike of the day, and find KB sitting in port at Koepang.

This is curious. Being in port halves fleet CV operations. If he wanted augmented CAP from LBA, why not stand off at a distance and send a bunch of the carrier's aircraft to the airfield? I dunno. There's probably things going on here that I'll never know.

Allied aircraft performed pretty poorly - flak seemed to throw them off, which is common. A bunch of the bomb hits were 500-pounders carried by TBMs (why, I don't yet know). CV Katsuragi took a 1k-pounder. Two of the 500-pounders that hit Kaga penetrated the flight deck. CV Aso took a penetrating hit but there weren't reports of major explosions (later, she's going to report Heavy Fires/Heavy Damage, so I hope to find out why.)




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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/30/2019 8:06:09 PM   
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Battle of Timor Sea: Second Allied strike gets chewed up.

My strikes are more fragmented that usual. Usually, I have about 5-6 CV/CVL in a TF, but this time I have more like 8-9. That may have triggered coordination penalties. Next time, I'll use three fleet carrier TFs rather than two.




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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/30/2019 8:07:22 PM   
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More on the edge of my seat from this AAR than I am about the hurricane... And I am in Florida right now!

Hoping for the best on both accounts,
T Rav


Good luck, T Rav.

My sister and brother-in-law live in Cutler Bay. They lost their house in Andrew, and it took them two years to rebuild.

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/30/2019 8:08:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		If anything, I would have put the KB behind Koepang, maybe to the hex NE (map) in shallow water. Long ranged (21 hex with a torpedo) Nells with torpedoes farther back, maybe they would come in at the end when your CAP is fatigued and AAA ammo is lower.

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/30/2019 8:10:34 PM   
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Battle of Timor Sea: First enemy strike package handled by Allied CAP.

P.S. This CAP isn't as robust as it should be. This was the first thing that made me wonder if my two fleet CV TFs are in different hexes, somehow. There's no way that could happen, but I'll continue to look.




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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/30/2019 8:18:41 PM   
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Battle of Timor Sea: Victorious suffers an ammo explosion. Uh oh (but RN CVS are notoriously tough.)




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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/30/2019 8:24:11 PM   
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Battle of Timor Sea: Small strike fizzles.

The two big Allied carrier TFs did end up in different hexes. This "isn't possible" and I've never seen it before with the current configuration, but nevertheless it did. There wasn't any reaction, so I can't imagine what happened.

That hurts, because most of my CAP is set to range 0.

On the other hand, my bacon might've been saved by KB being in a port hex and by CVE Mini DS drawing several decent-sized strikes.

Crazy, unexpected, inexplicable, impossible stuff happens....just like it should.







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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/30/2019 8:27:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		I know what happened. One of the big carrier TFs retired due to threat from proximate combat TF. I saw those messages early on and figured it was the YMS/DE types doing the fleeing.

Wow. That's a twist on what I'd foreseen and allowed for.

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/30/2019 8:31:21 PM   
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Battle of Timor Sea: The Japanese sortie the first p.m. strike:




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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/30/2019 8:39:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		We're Gulf Coast (Tampa Bay) so it should weaken. Looking for more Antietam reports. Fingers crossed.

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/30/2019 8:39:37 PM   
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Battle of Timor Sea: First Allied p.m. strike does okay. Aso takes a 1k-pounder and suffers an ammo storage explosion. Shoho requires counterflooding.




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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/30/2019 8:44:08 PM   
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Battle of Timor Sea: This Allied strike package, from the southern CV TF, gets chewed up.

Had the Allied carrier TFs remained together, the strikes would have packed far more punch. But their separation also fragmented enemy strikes. Thus, air losses were higher and ship damage was lower.

If KB's flight ops were indeed halved, that's the decisive quirk in this battle.




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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/30/2019 9:00:16 PM   
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Battle of Timor Sea: The lay of the land, as the day draws to a close.

Several Allied air squadrons diverted to Darwin and other CVs, indicating (I think) that two carriers are seriously hurt. But the number was by no means "epidemic."

Most promising - not a single "temporary repairs failing" message. Not one!




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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/30/2019 9:12:05 PM   
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Battle of Timor Sea: Ship damage.




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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/30/2019 9:20:24 PM   
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Battle of Timor Sea: Air losses were very heavy for both sides. Fully 1/3rd of Allied aircraft lost.

The ratio wasn't as skewed in favor of Japan as I had feared. I thought Allied losses would be 30% to 40% higher, but actually 25%.

Allied TBF losses very high, but fighter and dive bombers losses modest.

DS will need to retire to Darwin, mainly to provide protection for wounded heavies. But it can shortly thereafter sortie again, and I'm thinking the Marines will be ready to invade Dili.

Dave probably will sortie a lot of combat vessels. I'll do the same. To leave Koepang and move south, ships first have to pass through Roti. So it's not as short as it seems. I'll try to flood Roti with combat vessels to cross up Dave. DS will retire due south at first, to make a rendezvous with CVE Mini DS coming from Broome.

That's it for the reports for now. I may post later tonight.

That was tense and fun.




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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/30/2019 9:38:41 PM   
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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/30/2019 9:40:36 PM   
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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 8/30/2019 9:47:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the entertaining narrative!
Don't know how he had LBA active at Koepang and then had it move off before the end of the turn. Either the recon is not good or the LBA never did launch from there. Or maybe you shot it all down!

Gotta leave now and get to Australia for that Kangaroo Court. I'll tell Kylie Minogue that you said Hello.





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