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US pilot training - 9/1/2019 12:12:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Read the manual about training US pilots and the pools.

I'm pondering what is the best strategy in manipulating these pools in regards to pilots, instructors, etc?

Does anyone know of a discussion thread that might give me some added guidance as to how to deal with US pilot training strategy?

Searched the forum but didn't find any in depth discussion in regards to this aspect.

Thanks in advance for any responses.

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RE: US pilot training - 9/1/2019 12:26:18 PM   
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RE: US pilot training - 9/1/2019 12:31:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ool

Read the manual about training US pilots and the pools.

I'm pondering what is the best strategy in manipulating these pools in regards to pilots, instructors, etc?

Does anyone know of a discussion thread that might give me some added guidance as to how to deal with US pilot training strategy?

Searched the forum but didn't find any in depth discussion in regards to this aspect.

Thanks in advance for any responses.


There is no real need to train US pilots...but it can be handy.

But using restricted squadrons as "training squadrons" e.g. in West Coast is beneficial, ditto with VFR- etc.squadrons on CVEs later. After pilots are Exp. +50, and relevant NavB/NavT/Air/Recon etc. +70 and Def 60-70, then you can release pilots to General reserve (as Reserve in menu). Also TRACOM for Allies is useful storing best pilots until needed, not much for other things.

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RE: US pilot training - 9/1/2019 12:32:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		While I am an experienced player, I am not an expert on pilot training manipulation.

Since all moving pilots with 80+ experience to TRACOM does is advance the graduation date of the currently training group, rather than increase the experience level of that group, not many players see a real advantage in pulling those pilots out of the front lines.

This is likely due to the fact that Allied players rarely experience a shortfall in available replacement pilots and are loathe to put fresh flight school pilots into front line squadrons anyway.

Pilots fresh out of flight school are pretty much nothing but cannon fodder. The real, and useful 'pilot training' is done manually by the player on the map by assigning back line, and primarily permanently restricted, squadrons to the Training mission for various skills and moving those pilots to 'reserve' as they reach levels of experience and skill necessary for front line work.

I try to remember to review my training squadrons every 3 months and typically move pilots to reserve every 6 months. Replacing losses in front line squadrons should be able to be pulled from reserves, not replacements, if you are managing your training effectively.

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RE: US pilot training - 9/1/2019 12:39:24 PM   
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Hope you avoid the worst of that lovely Dorian churning towards Florida!

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RE: US pilot training - 9/1/2019 12:41:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		So at the beginning once turn 1 is over just max out the allowable pilots for the restricted squadrons and set them all to 100% training?

Then periodically transfer some of those to reserve pool?

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RE: US pilot training - 9/1/2019 12:42:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		But putting some or even just one highly trained pilot in the training unit will increase the Group average quicker. If a pilot's experience and skills are below the Group average, they will learn faster. I would frequently see pilots with experience in the upper thirties to low forties with a skill level of 70. Once they get that 70 skill or enough of them do, then I switch the skill being trained to some other skill. I do not switch the pilots to different groups to train other skills but apparently some people do.

The Tracom is more important for Japan in helping to train pilots faster which then cuts down on the Heavy Industry (HI) cost. Each pilots uses 5 HI per month so accelerating training for the Japanese is important.

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RE: US pilot training - 9/1/2019 12:46:33 PM   
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RE: US pilot training - 9/1/2019 2:10:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: HansBolter

Since all moving pilots with 80+ experience to TRACOM does is advance the graduation date of the currently training group, rather than increase the experience level of that group, not many players see a real advantage in pulling those pilots out of the front lines.

According to manual, pilots in TRACOM should also increase fresh pilots experience closer to National Average (so if average is 30, you will see less of them at lower than 30 exp fresh from school). But I'm not sure it is actual advantage, as greater the difference towards group average, faster they train their skill.

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RE: US pilot training - 9/1/2019 4:00:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ool

So at the beginning once turn 1 is over just max out the allowable pilots for the restricted squadrons and set them all to 100% training?

Then periodically transfer some of those to reserve pool?

The transfer to reserve will also happen automatically. If you have a bomber unit training Ground B skill and some pilots reach high levels of that skill, the AI will just transfer them out and bring in replacements. Doing it yourself is feasible but oh, so tedious! The time to manage individual pilots is when you want to bring in experienced pilots to operational units or save very high skilled pilots for future use with better aircraft.

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RE: US pilot training - 9/2/2019 11:16:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ool
Does anyone know of a discussion thread that might give me some added guidance as to how to deal with US pilot training strategy?

Summed up in BillBrown's post in https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4655973
Training Defence skill & InfiniteMonkey posts https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?
More of the same https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4520891

In general, put rookies in WC squadrons together with several very high xp guys, the more airframes the better, and train main skill at 100% and zero range until 65-70. Switch skill, or squadrons and train secondaries and/or defence (paramount for fighters). Then train xp on CAP for fighter pilots.
Use your floatplanes for USN fighter training, the latter will be your priority for the next 2 years

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RE: US pilot training - 9/3/2019 8:44:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ool

Read the manual about training US pilots and the pools.

I'm pondering what is the best strategy in manipulating these pools in regards to pilots, instructors, etc?

Does anyone know of a discussion thread that might give me some added guidance as to how to deal with US pilot training strategy?

Searched the forum but didn't find any in depth discussion in regards to this aspect.

Thanks in advance for any responses.


TBH there're tons of threads on pilot training. Go to search, type in 'pilot training', less precise match, and over to the right select 'all topics', and you'll get bunches of responses.

There're some very good detailed ones out there, I just don't have time to look for you right now. See if you can find it through how I've described. If not I may be able to try later.


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