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The War Illustrated Archive - 9/1/2019 8:54:06 PM   
RFalvo69


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Status: offline 		TWI was a English magazine that covered all WWII from the beginning to the end and beyond. It is a fascinating reading, a rich retelling of WWII in real time which covered from events to tactics (*) and from speeches to how to dress your dog during the Blitz.

The complete collection is available for free in .pdf format at http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/TWI/ (ten years ago I bought it in book form - ten big hard bound books - and I still find new things to read every time I pull it off the shelf).

Of course you must accept the propagandist approach (the Germans are actually accused of “trying everything imaginable” to conquer France...) and the fact that you only have the British point of view (even if speeches and other material from different sources are reported). Some analytical pieces, however, are deadly serious, and it is amazing to see how they nailed down 70% of what happened in France, and why, less than a month after the facts - later historiography only filling the remaining 30%.

Anyway, if you want to engage in a bit of time-travel and follow WWII “as it was happening”, I have no better recommendation.

(*) During the initial period of German expansion the journalistic pattern is always the same: Week 1: Country XY is invaded but it has the strength to oppose the Germans - no, really. Week 2: Glorious and determined is Country XY resistance against the fiery onslaught! Week 3: Country XY will rise again from the ashes - being only temporarily trampled by the boots of the Boche. I mean... when they explain (very first issue) how “Poland’s marshy landscape is totally unsuitable to German mechanised forces, making of Poland’s cavalry the real mobile force capable of gaining the upper hand” the thing reeks a bit of desperation. Ah, well, that’s the War behind a desk for you...

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RE: The War Illustrated Archive - 9/1/2019 9:00:25 PM   
RangerJoe


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Status: offline 		Thank you, I will look at those.

Actually, in France in 1944, Patton did wish for two horse cavalry divisions for their mobility off-road during the wet fall months. I am sure that was part of the reason why the Soviets and Germans used horse cavalry divisions on the Eastern Front.

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RE: The War Illustrated Archive - 9/2/2019 1:40:35 AM   
Neilster


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Status: offline 		Thanks for posting this. I've been trawling through wartime Australian newspapers and, in a similar vein to your post above, it's fascinating to see several things.

1. They have very little idea what's actually going on. Sometimes this is because of the inevitable fog of war and communications difficulties but sometimes it's because the Allied high command didn't know what was going on themselves (i.e. German crossing of the Meuse, France 1940).

2. In the first couple of years, they're ridiculously optimistic at the beginning of any campaign. The subsequent defeat is explained away in various ways such as, Belgian surrender in 1940 (highly unfair), the enemy's willingness to accept hideous losses (they didn't take them), overwhelming enemy superiority (i.e. 10,000 German tanks invading France, some weighing 70 tons...err no) or fifth columnists (no, except in Poland). There's is, however, a grudging admission of German skill but overall the tone is consistent with a propaganda line.

3. The shock of the blitzkrieg victories is on full display. As editorials have to be written each day, and without the benefit of hindsight, it's difficult for the writer to camouflage their feelings at the rapid reverses.

4. The Soviets are mental. Even when they start winning they are so paranoid that they lie about which generals are in charge of operations, for example.

So I'll be investigating The War Illustrated thoroughly.




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RE: The War Illustrated Archive - 9/2/2019 12:44:13 PM   
Saint Ruth


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Status: offline 		There's some fascintating stuff there! Cheers!

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RE: The War Illustrated Archive - 9/3/2019 9:14:48 PM   
Hellen_slith


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Status: offline 		Thanks for the link. It appears that this particular collection unfortunately is not complete.

In the magazine's publisher information, there is indication that this was a weekly publication. What appears to be collected by this web site are only the issues from the first week of each month. E.g., for the time frame of July / August 1941, we have only volume 4 no. 96 which is followed by volume 4 no. 100 ... missing volumes 97, 98, and 99.

I'm not sure if that's the case for the entire collection, but it appears to be so. That is apparent from the approximate 100 page gap between the July '41 and August '41 links. Perhaps I am not seeing all the links.

Still, it is a nice collection of some of the collection.


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RE: The War Illustrated Archive - 9/4/2019 9:15:56 AM   
RFalvo69


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Status: offline 		The issues are arranged in vertical columns. N.2 (Sept. 23, 1939) is just below N.1 (Sept. 16, 1939). Then you have issue 3 on Sept. 30, 1939, and then you move to the next column for issue N.4 on Oct. 7.

Here are your “missing” volumes, for example:

http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/TWI/TWI-41-07-11.pdf
http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/TWI/TWI-41-07-18.pdf
http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/TWI/TWI-41-07-25.pdf

I have the printed edition, and I can assure you that this collection is complete



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RE: The War Illustrated Archive - 9/5/2019 12:28:01 AM   
Waffenamt

 

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Status: offline 		Thanks for this. I was collecting/reading these back in the 70s. Alas, they were left behind in England so I look forward to enjoying them again.

Regards

< Message edited by Waffenamt -- 9/5/2019 12:33:41 AM >

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RE: The War Illustrated Archive - 9/5/2019 1:22:55 AM   
Hellen_slith


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quote:

ORIGINAL: RFalvo69

The issues are arranged in vertical columns. N.2 (Sept. 23, 1939) is just below N.1 (Sept. 16, 1939). Then you have issue 3 on Sept. 30, 1939, and then you move to the next column for issue N.4 on Oct. 7.

Here are your “missing” volumes, for example:

http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/TWI/TWI-41-07-11.pdf
http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/TWI/TWI-41-07-18.pdf
http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/TWI/TWI-41-07-25.pdf

I have the printed edition, and I can assure you that this collection is complete



I figured that somehow I was not seeing all the links. I see how it works now, thank you!

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RE: The War Illustrated Archive - 9/5/2019 1:28:21 AM   
RangerJoe


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Hellen_slith


quote:

ORIGINAL: RFalvo69

The issues are arranged in vertical columns. N.2 (Sept. 23, 1939) is just below N.1 (Sept. 16, 1939). Then you have issue 3 on Sept. 30, 1939, and then you move to the next column for issue N.4 on Oct. 7.

Here are your “missing” volumes, for example:

http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/TWI/TWI-41-07-11.pdf
http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/TWI/TWI-41-07-18.pdf
http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/TWI/TWI-41-07-25.pdf

I have the printed edition, and I can assure you that this collection is complete



I figured that somehow I was not seeing all the links. I see how it works now, thank you!


Well, if you were in the 2nd Armored Division, that could explain some things . . .

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RE: The War Illustrated Archive - 9/5/2019 6:42:44 PM   
Hellen_slith


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quote:

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hellen_slith


quote:

ORIGINAL: RFalvo69

The issues are arranged in vertical columns. N.2 (Sept. 23, 1939) is just below N.1 (Sept. 16, 1939). Then you have issue 3 on Sept. 30, 1939, and then you move to the next column for issue N.4 on Oct. 7.

Here are your “missing” volumes, for example:

http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/TWI/TWI-41-07-11.pdf
http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/TWI/TWI-41-07-18.pdf
http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/TWI/TWI-41-07-25.pdf

I have the printed edition, and I can assure you that this collection is complete



I figured that somehow I was not seeing all the links. I see how it works now, thank you!


Well, if you were in the 2nd Armored Division, that could explain some things . . .


But not the cataract and poor vision problems from old age. Thanks for playing, though!

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RE: The War Illustrated Archive - 9/5/2019 7:17:32 PM   
RangerJoe


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Hellen_slith


quote:

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hellen_slith


quote:

ORIGINAL: RFalvo69

The issues are arranged in vertical columns. N.2 (Sept. 23, 1939) is just below N.1 (Sept. 16, 1939). Then you have issue 3 on Sept. 30, 1939, and then you move to the next column for issue N.4 on Oct. 7.

Here are your “missing” volumes, for example:

http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/TWI/TWI-41-07-11.pdf
http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/TWI/TWI-41-07-18.pdf
http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/TWI/TWI-41-07-25.pdf

I have the printed edition, and I can assure you that this collection is complete



I figured that somehow I was not seeing all the links. I see how it works now, thank you!


Well, if you were in the 2nd Armored Division, that could explain some things . . .


But not the cataract and poor vision problems from old age. Thanks for playing, though!


Depending on the VAMC that you would go to, any disability ratings, and any wartime service, you might be able to get help on the first. The second, it is better than the alternative . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sUXFnO3jL0

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RE: The War Illustrated Archive - 9/6/2019 12:50:22 AM   
Gilmer


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Status: offline 		There was some really cool stuff in there. I looked through to see where the Nazis attacked Poland, Denmark, then Norway, then Luxembourg, Belgium and the Netherlands, and then finally France itself. Very interesting reading some of the stories. There was a lot of "I was at Dunkirk!" "I was there when the Nazis entered Copenhagen!" "I was there when the Nazis bombed Amsterdam!!"



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RE: The War Illustrated Archive - 9/6/2019 11:00:39 PM   
philabos

 

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Status: offline 		I have the print edition as well. Some really very interesting photos and stories.
Sold at Borders years ago very cheap.
You do have to read with the grain or more of salt . Starts right out with RAF heavily damaging two pocket battleships in port early September 1939.
Nonetheless, a record of the time and quite a bit you will never find anywhere else.

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