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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 9/11/2019 1:09:27 AM   
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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 9/11/2019 2:33:29 AM   
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Celebes: I've pushed about as far as I can go. DS will retired to Koepang for R&R. Allies will push engineers to the dot bases north of Timor as fast as possible. Building them is a priority. There is an indefinite "line in the sand" that will trigger reaction by DS. I'll definitely work to defend Bima and the bases closer than that. Kolaka, Watampone and Ternate will depend on all the circumstances.

With two CVs and a CVL inbound in about ten days, DS should be pretty secure - as long as its CAP/LRCAP doesn't blunder into hexes that the enemy can sweep.

I don't think Dave will take chances with big ships, so he may be limited to fast transport-type counter invasions.




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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 9/11/2019 6:25:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		Although the loss of two CVEs stings a bit, I'd say you are doing well in the DEI. You may need to use your heavies for a bit more airfield suppression in the future, however.

Good kit on the Akagi. Next step would be to pull a surprise hit on Manila with B-29s (maybe from a built-up Ternate?).

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 9/11/2019 12:57:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		I notice you haven't taken Roti - are you planning to let the troops there starve or mop it up when you have some troops to spare?

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 9/11/2019 12:59:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Great job by your Liberators, and definitely worth the sacrifice. I would imagine you are in position now to disable the airfields at Kendari and Ambon; that would sure help your position.

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 9/11/2019 3:16:50 PM   
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Great job by your Liberators, and definitely worth the sacrifice. I would imagine you are in position now to disable the airfields at Kendari and Ambon; that would sure help your position.


As usual, there are many targets, so priorities are key. 4EB have suppressed Ambon, Kendari and Sorong, from time to time, usually doing only modest damage. When necessary, concentrated bombing will probably work. And ship bombardments are possible at Kendari and Ambon (I wouldn't go so far as Sorong yet). The B-29s will mostly be used for strategic targets.


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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 9/11/2019 3:21:52 PM   
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I notice you haven't taken Roti - are you planning to let the troops there starve or mop it up when you have some troops to spare?


Short term, no plans to take Roti. Mathematics limits what I can do with what I have.

As the Allies have moved forward from Lunga to near Soerabja, a lot of divisions with prep have been used for the main targets (Lunga, Milne Bay, Rabaul, Merauke, Koepang, Darwin). A few have been recycled or otherwise moved to secondary targets (Tassafronga, Lae, Lautem). That's a lot of major targets involving a lot of prep time and some units with secondary prep-time too.

Enemy bases in my rear include Tassafronga, Tulagi, Lae, base near Kaevieng, and Roti. Dave isn't using any of them actively - no air activity (though that can change, a factor kept in mind). Tassa and the base near Kaevieng are being reduced steadily. Lae is a beast with a strong division. It will take a lot of time.

So, do I want to take a division prepped for some future target and switch it to Roti? I don't think so. Maybe much later, after nearby targets like Ambon, Namlea, Kendari, etc. are handled.

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 9/11/2019 3:40:27 PM   
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Celebes: Only one ASW skirmish over these two days - an IJN sub heavily damaged (not sunk) near Endeh. Things seem to have quieted considerably. I think Dave through his best bunch and is now re-grouping. That doesn't mean there aren't subs around, just not as many.

I'd handled most of the orders issued for the turn of the 28th when I noticed enemy ground unit icon midway between Kendari and Kolaka. This resulted in a bunch of new decisions and orders. First, 4EB ordered to strike, with P-38 escorts (weather would prevent that, as it turned out). Second, DS ordered to return to port and replenish everything, especially ASW ammo and missing fighters.

The replenish-everything went well on the 28th, so DS to return to the Banda Sea on the 29th.

I might be wrong - I'll monitor carefully - but I think Dave indeed threw his best punch. It may be possible to reinforce Kolako. And, if not, there may be other helpful steps that can be taken.

CV Bunker Hill and CVL San Jacinto leave Townsville tonight for Darwin, where CV Yorktown waits.

CV Hornet II is disbanded at Sydney, handling SYS damage first. The two damaged CVLs are doing the same at Pearl Harbor.

A CVE TF departs Pearl tonight for SWPac, where it might handle ops against bases like Hollandia (or, if reinforcements are needed, report to Timor).




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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 9/11/2019 4:44:01 PM   
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And ship bombardments are possible at Kendari and Ambon (I wouldn't go so far as Sorong yet).



It's the naval bombardments that I had in mind. Even if you can't do it regularly or very often, one or two good bombardments would mean that Dave can't really use the bases for heavy frontline use unless he commits a LOT of resources to guard them -- and if so, those resources (combat ships mostly) would themselves by vulnerable. Similarly, I would imagine that Soerabaja is no longer safe as a port for any really valuable ships and that is a very valuable by-product of your successful air raid there.

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 9/11/2019 5:04:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		You're right. Dave has withdrawn most ships from Soerabaja. He'll be taking similar precautions at other points within range.

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 9/11/2019 5:51:34 PM   
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Celebes: DS & The Herd moved north without incident. However, there are a bunch of subs between them and Kolaka. It also seems that the Jap unit the left Kendari isn't moving on Kolaka - it's taking a blocking position. Allied 4EB messed it up a bit today. So the crisis seems temporarily abated. Accordingly, DS ordered to move north towards Kendari, with another big troop transport TF to move out of Koepang at flank to rendezvous. It's carrying a Java-prepped division that I'd like to drop at Ternate, if things look good (Java won't be in the cards for awhile, I think).

Pearl Harbor Aftermath: BB Pennsylvania arrived at Alameda today. She's the last of the BBs damaged during the opening attack. Rather than risk subs in the early months, I chose to keep the crippled ships at Pearl, repairing them slowly. Only in late '43 did a couple of the ships (Maryland and Tennessee) depart for the West Coast. They're repaired and back with the fleet. I'd have left Pennsylvania at Pearl, but enough damaged ships having been coming in from the DEI that it seemed better to move her. (The slow BBs weren't needed, as I've only lost two BBs in the war, and things were so slow until late '43 anyhow.)

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 9/11/2019 8:13:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Pearl Harbor Aftermath: BB Pennsylvania arrived at Alameda today. She's the last of the BBs damaged during the opening attack. Rather than risk subs in the early months, I chose to keep the crippled ships at Pearl, repairing them slowly. Only in late '43 did a couple of the ships (Maryland and Tennessee) depart for the West Coast. They're repaired and back with the fleet. I'd have left Pennsylvania at Pearl, but enough damaged ships having been coming in from the DEI that it seemed better to move her. (The slow BBs weren't needed, as I've only lost two BBs in the war, and things were so slow until late '43 anyhow.)


You're still repairing her in 1944?!?! How much damage did she take?

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 9/11/2019 11:54:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Moderately heavy. She'll need 240 days at Alameda.

The real reason is that I didn't give high priority to slow-BB repair after December 7, 1941. They got done, usually one at a time, but I was never short of BBs, so the need was never great. Whenever there were higher priority ships coming to Pearl for repairs, the BBs got bumped to the back of the line.

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 9/12/2019 12:30:40 AM   
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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 9/12/2019 12:39:18 AM   
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Moderately heavy. She'll need 240 days at Alameda.

The real reason is that I didn't give high priority to slow-BB repair after December 7, 1941. They got done, usually one at a time, but I was never short of BBs, so the need was never great. Whenever there were higher priority ships coming to Pearl for repairs, the BBs got bumped to the back of the line.


I thought Bremerton was a bigger port and repaired faster? Or are you saving space for other ships?

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 9/12/2019 9:05:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Bremerton is bigger. But there has been regular traffic between Pearl and SF without incident, giving a high degree of confidence that there aren't any subs lurking. Pennsylvania is badly enough hurt that a single TT would sink her. And, as noted above, there's no hurry to complete the repairs.

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 9/12/2019 12:25:03 PM   
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There was No Earth Shattering Kaboom! DS got separated from Mini DS + The Herd on the 1st, which was frightening. There were no enemy air attacks and two RO-boats were sunk. On the 2nd, the TFs re-combined and underwent strong air attacks from Sorong. The nifty Allied multi-pronged attack was a dud, as Marvin the Martian noted. BB South Dakota TF failed to bombard Kendari - it never moved (the orders were properly entered). B-24s with sweeps and escorts from Koepang failed to target Ambon's airfield. And B-29s from Koepang failed to target Sorong's airfield. We'll try it again tomorrow, as the armada continues north towards Ternate.




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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 9/12/2019 12:52:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Gotta love bombard TFs trying to creep up on their targets.

"OK, here's the plan. We'll approach the objective slowly, so they won't hear us coming..."

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 9/12/2019 1:43:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah. That was scary. I think the TF must have refueled, leaving too few ops points to complete a bombardment mission. A little thing like that can ruin a player's day!

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 9/12/2019 2:16:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		A pause for refueling does sound like the most likely reason for the delay. Best wishes for smoother timing tomorrow!

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 9/12/2019 2:27:19 PM   
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A pause for refueling does sound like the most likely reason for the delay. Best wishes for smoother timing tomorrow!


I'm sure that happens, but I've also seen bombard TF's "hover" without refueling, so there must be something else going on.

Wish I knew what...

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 9/12/2019 5:07:16 PM   
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Celebes: The plan delayed yesterday unfolds perfectly today: bombardments on Kendari and Ambon followed by air raids on Ambon and Sorong. And, to cap it off, it was one of those rare turns when there were no setbacks to mar that lovin' feeling.

DS & The Herd continue their approach to Ternate.




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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 9/12/2019 5:21:39 PM   
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A pause for refueling does sound like the most likely reason for the delay. Best wishes for smoother timing tomorrow!


I'm sure that happens, but I've also seen bombard TF's "hover" without refueling, so there must be something else going on.

Wish I knew what...

I think they can also balk if there are strong bomber forces within range. Shooting down all those Frances last turn may help with that!

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 9/12/2019 5:27:29 PM   
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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 9/12/2019 6:23:40 PM   
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I'm sure that happens, but I've also seen bombard TF's "hover" without refueling, so there must be something else going on.

Wish I knew what...

I think they can also balk if there are strong bomber forces within range. Shooting down all those Frances last turn may help with that!


Could be. If that reluctance can be overcome by a die roll I'd rate it as probable.

Of course if they'd execute the bombardment when I tell them too they'd blow up the bombers on the ground and not have to worry about them...

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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 9/12/2019 6:54:35 PM   
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Celebes: Allied reinforcements come ashore at Ternate in numbers, and snap invasion of vacant Morotai takes place. But enemy sweeps of Ternate whittle away at DS LRCAP, so I decide to halt the landings after this one day. DS & The Herd to get underway, proceeding SSE.

Keep whittling those subs boys, 'cause they have fangs.




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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 9/12/2019 7:16:32 PM   
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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 9/12/2019 7:21:40 PM   
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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 9/12/2019 7:25:00 PM   
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Celebes: On bug-out day, enemy subs infest the waters near Ternate, DS & The Herd. Good work here by ASW. Just how many subs have been sunk, and how many damaged, in the past few weeks?




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RE: Intellectus Ex Nihilo (Wal-Mart on Ice) - 9/12/2019 7:28:28 PM   
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Celebes: DS & The Herd are moving to the SE. To reduce the biggest threat, several steps are taken: (1) a lone DD that had been escorting the transports at Morotai is detached and is sent to nose around Sorong's harbor; (2) a good DD TF is to bombard Sorong; and (3) tired B-24s and B-29s to hit the airfield.

The results are strong. The threat of LBA is reduced considerably.




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