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UV Newbie Stuff - 7/4/2003 1:05:21 PM   
CaptBeefheart


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From: Seoul, Korea
Status: offline 		[Wow, do I feel stupid, I put this in WITP originally.]

Hello Gentlemen,

This game rocks. I checked quite a few threads but may have missed this - so my apologies to all if this has been covered. Anyway, I've done a coupla scenarios against the AI and would like to do PBEM against you SoPac geniuses out there before too long. In the meantime, I've seen a few things that may be features or may be bugs. Here goes:

1. Why do base force units tend to lose aviation support strength once they've been deployed to PM (I get it, to the cognoscenti "PM" means "Port Moresby") or elsewhere? I'm talking more than twice as many supply points as required or more and still over time the AS points dwindle. These units seem to lose strength and require new base force units to be sent to keep those high qual P-39s flying. Actually, a full explanation of how base force units gain or lose strength would be appreciated.

2. Why do other units, in very well-supplied bases, tend to lose strength points over time?

3. How can I remedy this problem?

4. Why did SOPAC HQ get 95% eviscerated when I airlifted it to Irau from Luganville? (I.e. it went to 10 aviation and no regular support points from whatever).

You folks are about as erudite and edumacated as I've seen on the Internet, so I look forward to your responses. Best regards.

Gotta love beer,

CC

Edit: Hey, how do you guys get the cool pictures under your names? Remember, I'm a half-luddite!

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- 7/4/2003 2:13:51 PM   
madflava13


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Status: offline 		CC,
Your units are dwindling in strength because of a number of factors. I don't know your specific situation, but the bases you mentioned are malarial bases so your units lose strength as a result. You need to rotate in fresh troops occasionally to let the units rest and refit. Also, you may need more supply. Units without supply lose their strength at an alarming rate. This goes for air units as well. The key is rotation of your units. This becomes hard at PM though (at least against a human opponent) because it's very easy to interdict the Allied reinforcements.

Don't worry about asking questions that may have been asked before - no one here will bite your head off, although some of the Australian types might make the occasional drunken comment... hehe.

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- 7/4/2003 5:11:12 PM   
AmiralLaurent

 

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From: Near Paris, France
Status: offline 		1) and 2) Almost every base on the map is malarial and squads will be disabled by disease and climate every time. You have to rotate them for rest in Australia/New Caledonia or Truk. It is not especially easy in PM.

3) Remedy: the greater the base, the less malaria your troops suffer. Also having far more supplies than the number required is a good thing. Both of these measures apply of course to bases that are not under the threat of an imminent successful invasion, or you will just give your opponent a better base with supplies in it.
But malaria will always claim its toll (in WWII, it disabled more men during the Guadalcanal campain than the Japanese).

4) two solutions : there is sometimes a bug that an unit will disappear at the end of an airlift. Or you have have 95% of your unit still at Irau and only 5% have been airlifted until now. And Irau is not the place for SOPAC HQ in my opinion.

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- 7/5/2003 3:52:24 AM   
CaptBeefheart


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Status: offline 		Thanks, guys. I hadn't realized it was malaria - but it certainly makes sense and is realistic. In this case PM has always had beaucoups supply. I'll keep an eye on attrition vs. base size and supply in future.

I doublechecked the SOPAC HQ situation and it looks like it's a victim of the airlift bug. It's in Luganville with only 4 aviation support points and nothing else (it doesn't seem to be growing and there's no SOPAC HQ in the reinforcement queue). I had tried to airlift it to Irau. Thus, it seems to have never made it to Irau or disappeared after arriving - I didn't check at the time. Anyway, every base in the Solomons is light on support as a result, which really isn't an issue vs. the computer, but would be vs. a human IJN.

I read in the manual that base forces should grow until they match the size of the airfield (up to 250 aviation support units). Has anyone noted this phenomenon outside of Noumea or Australia or is the malaria effect stronger?

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- 7/5/2003 11:34:11 AM   
Philwd

 

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Joined: 3/19/2002
From: Arizona
Status: offline 		Hi Commander,
Glad to see another desert rat here!

Your base forces don't grow. They are what you start with. If you are playing the AI theirs may grow slowly. This was changed a while back and it sounds like the manual is out of date. The Allies get so many big ones to start with its not a big deal. Not so with the IJN.

Quark

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- 7/5/2003 11:54:12 PM   
Admiral_Arctic

 

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Status: offline 		One way to reduce malaria is to move the supply to the base first if possible. Then move in the troops after that. That way you can keep the infantry in a non-malaria hex until really needed and maybe save ten turns of exposure. But if you don't have the turn around time for two or more trips, move then men first.

Also you can reduce supply useage at a base. In exposed bases like PM, decide before the game starts as to what you intend to do. If you are only defending a base to deny it to the enemy, you might want to only build the forts, so switch off the port and airbase builders. You might want to withdraw the engineers too, because they burn up supplies while repairing the airfield and port that you have no intension of using.

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- 7/6/2003 2:45:26 AM   
Snigbert

 

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Joined: 1/27/2002
From: Worcester, MA. USA
Status: offline 		[B]Edit: Hey, how do you guys get the cool pictures under your names? Remember, I'm a half-luddite![/B]

I dont know how to get a 'cool' picture, since all I have is a picture I took of one of my fish from my fish tank...but to add an avatar picture you click on 'user cp' in the line of buttons on the upper right of the screen, then click on user options tab. Avatars is down at the bottom.

By the way, could anyone tell that my avatar was a picture of a fish?

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- 7/6/2003 8:44:17 PM   
dwesolick


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Joined: 6/24/2002
From: Colorado
Status: offline 		Hey Snig,

No, no one could tell it was a fish, we all thought it was a picture of your last girlfriend :eek:

Your new logo is much better anyway. It's good to come out of the "closet" and be proud of your Leatherneck heritage! :D

See you in SOPAC (soon, I hope).

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- 7/7/2003 1:13:38 AM   
Snigbert

 

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From: Worcester, MA. USA
Status: offline 		[B]No, no one could tell it was a fish, we all thought it was a picture of your last girlfriend[/B]

Heheh, not too far off. :)

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- 7/7/2003 7:29:06 AM   
Admiral DadMan


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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by Snigbert
[B][B]No, no one could tell it was a fish, we all thought it was a picture of your last girlfriend[/B]

Heheh, not too far off. :) [/B][/QUOTE]I hate trouser trout.

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