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SC3 League Division tourney registration - 9/22/2019 12:59:12 PM   
Ktonos

 

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Status: offline 		Updated so schedule & results are in the first post

Key
First side: Axis, Second side: Allies, in italics: active games, in Bold: winning side

1st Division

1. Rannug61 1-0
2. Fafnir 0-0
3. Elveranomaslargo 0-0
4. Ktonos 0-1

1st match
Fafnir-Elveranomaslargo
Ktonos-Rannug61

2nd match
Elveranomaslargo-Ktonos
Rannug61-Fafnir

3rd match
Ktonos-Fafnir
Elveranomaslargo-Rannug61

4th match
Rannug61-Ktonos
Elveranomaslargo-Fafnir

5th match
Ktonos-Elveranomaslargo
Fafnir-Rannug61

6th match
Fafnir-Ktonos
Elveranomaslargo-Rannug61

2nd Division

1. Gilber 0-0
2. El Condoro 0-0
3. Nnason 0-0
4. Taifun 0-0

1st match
El Condoro-Gilber
Nnason-Taifun

2nd match
Taifun-El Condoro
Gilber-Nnason

3rd match
Taifun-Gilber
Nnason-El Condoro

4th match
Gilber-El Condoro
Taifun-Nnason

5th match
El Condoro-Taifun
Nnason-Gilber

6th match
Gilber-Taifun
El Condoro-Nnason


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This is an attempt to organize a new tourney.

The rest of the month will be dedicated to registrations, and, hopefully, if there is enough interest and at least 8 players, the schedule will be posted on 1st October and thereafter the games will commence.

Disclaimer a: This is NOT to substitute the ELO rankings, rather it will run alongside with it (check the rules, next post)

Disclaimer b: As good as the ELO standings are (and many thanks to Noah for the excellent organization), they lack two things: A crowned victor and competitive games.
As I see it and probably most here also do, the game is at it's best when both opponents are close in skill. Also, while Fafnir smashed the ELO ranking, we lack a finite result (as the ELO has no predetermined finale) which will give some grant closure to a tourney

So the general gist of this idea is to have a tourney that will consist of competitive games and provide us with a victor (or several victors, see below)



< Message edited by Ktonos -- 12/10/2019 11:50:20 AM >
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RE: SC3 League Division tourney registration - 9/22/2019 12:59:20 PM   
Ktonos

 

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Status: offline 		REGISTRATION

1. Registration will be open until the 6th of October
2. To register, just post here with your intention to play

FORMAT

1. The pool of players will be divided in groups of 4. The division will be based on the ELO rankings as of 6th October. That is: the 4 leading players among those who registered will form Division 1, the following 4 will form Division 2 etc

2. Players that have no ELO ranking will be included in the last formed group

3. Each group will proceed to complete a round robin: each player will play twice each of his 3 opponents. Once as Axis and once as Allies. That makes for 6 games. The intention is that the tourney will come to a conclusion by next June, this means that contestants should be prepared to play 6 games within 9 months.

4. After the conclusion of the tourney, the victor of each division will get promotion to the next league while the last player will get relegated to the immediately lower league.
*So if we ever repeat this, there will already be set groups - new players would start in the lowest league regardless of their ratings.
*Maybe we can workout with Noah to grant ELO bonuses to people who win their league.

5. Games for this tourney automatically count for the ELO rankings

League tie breakers
In case there is a tie in a league there are the following tie breakers:
1. Who won his game(s) between the tied players in the earliest date
2. If that is also tied, then the lower ELO ranked player is given the tie

Registered players

Ktonos, El Condoro, Taifun, Rannug1, Fafnir, Gilber, Elveranomaslargo, Nnason

Divisions
(subject to change)

1st Division
1. Fafnir
2. Ktonos
3. Rannug61
4. Elveranomaslargo

2nd Division
1. Gilber
2. El Condoro
3. Nnason
4. Taifun

< Message edited by Ktonos -- 9/25/2019 2:16:08 PM >

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RE: SC3 League Division tourney registration - 9/22/2019 1:13:09 PM   
El Condoro

 

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Status: offline 		Sounds great. Count me in, please.

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RE: SC3 League Division tourney registration - 9/22/2019 3:59:28 PM   
Taifun


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Joined: 12/28/2006
From: Spain
Status: offline 		Hi gentlemen,

I would like to play in your tournament. I have played 7-8 games before. It is been more than a year since I did not play but I am back in force! I can play a turn per day...


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RE: SC3 League Division tourney registration - 9/22/2019 5:49:48 PM   
Rannug61


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Status: offline 		I'm in and ready to rumble...

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RE: SC3 League Division tourney registration - 9/22/2019 5:59:14 PM   
Fafnir

 

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Joined: 11/20/2016
From: Heidelberg
Status: offline 		I'm in too.

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RE: SC3 League Division tourney registration - 9/23/2019 11:30:54 AM   
Gilber


Posts: 234
Joined: 6/13/2018
From: Luxembourg
Status: offline 		Ktonos,
excellent initiative!
Count me in, please.

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Gilles

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RE: SC3 League Division tourney registration - 9/24/2019 6:59:30 PM   
elveranomaslargo


Posts: 40
Joined: 12/1/2017
Status: offline 		I (josan_slith is my slitherine ID, elveranomaslargo the Matrix one) will be happy to join the tournament.

Thanks Ktonos for your great idea.


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RE: SC3 League Division tourney registration - 9/24/2019 7:40:29 PM   
nnason


Posts: 502
Joined: 3/4/2016
From: Washington DC Metro Area
Status: offline 		Ktonos,
Thanks for setting this up.
Thanks for the kudos.
I would like to play.

I think you should consider giving people an additional week to sign up. I am going on a two-week vacation with no cell service most of the time. Had I been on my vacation I might have missed your post.

I like your idea of counting wins in this tournament in the ELO standings more than just a win. I'll think about how to do it and get back with a recommendation since any such change would affect all the ELO players not just the players in this league.

PS. Come on guys and gals, if there are any, sign-up Ktonos is doing all the hard work all we have to do is play.




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RE: SC3 League Division tourney registration - 9/24/2019 9:34:16 PM   
Ktonos

 

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Joined: 3/16/2018
Status: offline 		Yes Noah, maybe you are right. Unless there is some objection we will extend the registration deadline to Sunday, 6th September. Thanks for considering the ELO bonus for league winners.

Johan I will list you with the name you appear in the ELO lists, unless you prefer otherwise.

Since we now have 8+ people, the lists in the first post are updated with Divisions. Of Course they are subject to change if more people join up.

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RE: SC3 League Division tourney registration - 9/25/2019 5:01:59 AM   
El Condoro

 

Posts: 202
Joined: 4/2/2008
Status: offline 		Not to be a wise guy but I assume you mean 6th October.

I am looking forward to this. Assuming the pool remains the same, I have only played one of the guys in it so I am looking forward to playing the others. Thanks for initiating this, Ktonos.

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RE: SC3 League Division tourney registration - 9/25/2019 2:14:48 PM   
Ktonos

 

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Joined: 3/16/2018
Status: offline 		Probably September is my favorite month and I keep seeing him everywhere. Many thanks for the correction El Condoro

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RE: SC3 League Division tourney registration - 9/27/2019 2:45:12 PM   
nnason


Posts: 502
Joined: 3/4/2016
From: Washington DC Metro Area
Status: offline 		Ktonos,

I updated ELO as of today.
Due to limited/no internet connectivity until mid-October, I will not be updating again before you do the parsing out of the games.

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LTC Field Artillery
US Army Retired

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RE: SC3 League Division tourney registration - 10/4/2019 1:41:10 PM   
Ktonos

 

Posts: 282
Joined: 3/16/2018
Status: offline 		I PMed some of the most active members that had yet to register, getting either negative or no response, so it seems this will be the final structure.

Regarding the schedule, if there is no objection posted until Sunday, I will make a draw of opponents for each matchday. Alternatively, each division will have it's fixtures arranged by a player from the other division - eventhough there is no room for foul play here as everyone will eventually play with everyone.

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RE: SC3 League Division tourney registration - 10/6/2019 9:23:26 PM   
Ktonos

 

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Joined: 3/16/2018
Status: offline 		Divisions are set. I hope we don't have a late withdrawal cause this would mean this is canceled

Divisions are:

1st Division
1. Fafnir
2. Ktonos
3. Rannug61
4. Elveranomaslargo

2nd Division
1. Gilber
2. El Condoro
3. Nnason
4. Taifun

I thought that there is an easy way to make the pairings of the first matchday, without having to rely with some obscure draw.

The highest ELO player of each League will pick his opponent. Then his opponent picks the side.

[Edit: This would determine the 1st matchday pairings and from there on it is easy to make up the rest. 2nd matchday is between the Axis and Allied player of the 1st matchday, only that they switch sides. 3rd is the remaining pairings, and so on]

If any players have time, and agree via PM can play additional games at the same time, as long as they are posted that the games began. Baring that we need each player have at least 1 active game.



So we await Fafnir and Gilber each to choose an opponent from their respective groups

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RE: SC3 League Division tourney registration - 10/6/2019 11:17:53 PM   
El_Condoro

 

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Joined: 8/3/2019
Status: offline 		I'd prefer a roster of games so that I know which ones have been played and recorded. That said, I am happy to play up to 3 games concurrently.

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RE: SC3 League Division tourney registration - 10/6/2019 11:22:56 PM   
Ktonos

 

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Joined: 3/16/2018
Status: offline 		Yeah, the order of games will be specific, posted and updated as the results come in. Players will declare which are active.

While anyone is free to play any listed match, the order is there to avoid any confusion.

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RE: SC3 League Division tourney registration - 10/7/2019 10:06:02 AM   
Gilber


Posts: 234
Joined: 6/13/2018
From: Luxembourg
Status: offline 		Hi gentlemen,

thanks again to Ktonos for organizing this tournament for us.

for my opponent everything is fine for me, I propose that the first one who is interested say it on the thread, creates a challenge, and sends me a PM.

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RE: SC3 League Division tourney registration - 10/7/2019 5:31:40 PM   
Taifun


Posts: 932
Joined: 12/28/2006
From: Spain
Status: offline 		Hi all,
I am ready. I guess I will play Mr.Nnason. If I understood I can choose sides as I am the last one. I choose Allies.
As soon as I finish my ELO game with Rannug61 I could start a 2nd game In this tournament.

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RE: SC3 League Division tourney registration - 10/7/2019 10:06:44 PM   
Fafnir

 

Posts: 166
Joined: 11/20/2016
From: Heidelberg
Status: offline 		I pick Elveranomaslargo as first opponent.

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RE: SC3 League Division tourney registration - 10/7/2019 10:29:39 PM   
Ktonos

 

Posts: 282
Joined: 3/16/2018
Status: offline 		So games are

Fafnir-Elveranomaslargo and Ktonos-Rannug61

Gilber-El Condoro and Nnason(Axis)-Taifun(Allies)

We await Elveranomaslargo, Rannug61 and El Condoro to pick sides so we can have the full schedule.
Feel free to PM each other for this so we can finish this stage as soon as possible

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RE: SC3 League Division tourney registration - 10/8/2019 4:17:01 AM   
Gilber


Posts: 234
Joined: 6/13/2018
From: Luxembourg
Status: offline 		El Condoro,

i am at your disposal.
feel free after choissing your side, create a challenge and send me PM.


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RE: SC3 League Division tourney registration - 10/8/2019 7:50:18 AM   
El Condoro

 

Posts: 202
Joined: 4/2/2008
Status: offline 		I have chosen to send my panzers rolling across Poland. PM sent to Gilber.

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RE: SC3 League Division tourney registration - 10/10/2019 10:25:41 PM   
Ktonos

 

Posts: 282
Joined: 3/16/2018
Status: offline 		Fafnir what sides are you and Elveranomaslargo?

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RE: SC3 League Division tourney registration - 10/10/2019 11:38:32 PM   
Fafnir

 

Posts: 166
Joined: 11/20/2016
From: Heidelberg
Status: offline 		Elveranomaslargo did not respond to my pm yet.

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RE: SC3 League Division tourney registration - 10/11/2019 12:11:41 AM   
Ktonos

 

Posts: 282
Joined: 3/16/2018
Status: offline 		Alas my fears of late withdrawals seem to be confirmed. Maybe it was too much to set it in so many games.

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RE: SC3 League Division tourney registration - 10/11/2019 4:39:44 AM   
Gilber


Posts: 234
Joined: 6/13/2018
From: Luxembourg
Status: offline 		Game Started El Condoro Axis Gilber Allies (already turn 26)

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RE: SC3 League Division tourney registration - 10/11/2019 4:15:45 PM   
ArmouredLion


Posts: 651
Joined: 9/18/2015
Status: offline 		Hey, Ktonos... you have been so kind in our game with your tutilage... if you need another player I'll take the missing spot to keep all your work in setting the tourney up, going... if needed... as thanks for your fine sportsmanship and wisdom. Some players don't even respond to messages. But, you're among the handful of good guys I've played so far. If someone else is willing to take the mantle that's even better. I'm not very fond my play in this game yet, so I don't deem myself ready for the big league, so let me be a last-ditch option. But, I am here as a deadman switch option.

< Message edited by ArmouredLion -- 10/11/2019 4:16:37 PM >

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RE: SC3 League Division tourney registration - 10/11/2019 6:18:02 PM   
Ktonos

 

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Joined: 3/16/2018
Status: offline 		Hey mate, thanks for your good words, I am enjoying our game, and believe me you play better than you thing.
Regarding the tourney, unfortunately the format I chose is proving quite rigid. A drop out from Everasmargo would mean that Gilber ought to play to the 1st league and you taking his place on the lower one, something that would mess things up. And what happens when mid tourney someone else drops?

I am afraid this is done for, it was my mistake to be so ambitious with the format.

Maybe a much simpler format where we gather a pool of players and play knockout games would be much more practical, with the knockout pairs being drafted with the same system - 1st player choose an opponent from the list, opponent chooses side, 2nd does the same and so on. Winnners proceed to next round where the same procedure provides us with pairs until in the end we have a final game. That would be more practical.


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RE: SC3 League Division tourney registration - 10/11/2019 6:44:57 PM   
Taifun


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Joined: 12/28/2006
From: Spain
Status: offline 		Hi all,

Still waiting for Mr.Nnason to start our game. Is Elveranomaslargo out already? We even didn´t start yet. Can I start another game with another player of the league?

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