Gunner98 
		  
		   
		     
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		 A note on semantics here, only because I've done a fair bit of reading on the subject and am in the midst of picking a bunch of nits on another subject...:       The USN stopped using the term and the doctrine of a CVBG in the early 90's, so when you say a 'modern CVBG' I would date that as a late 1980's early 1990's formation.      Since that point they've been using the CSG (Carrier strike Group) concept.  I suppose in reality there isn't much difference except size, they don't need to be as well protected as they used to.      CVBG= 1 or possibly 2 CV/CVN, possibly a BB, up to 3 CG/CGN, up to 4 ASW ships (DD/DDG/FF/FFG) and an AO(R)   CSG= 1 CVN, 1 CG, 2-4 DDG - the AO(R) is detached and independent, no more BB, CGN, DD, FF or FFGs to be had.      From and AD & ASuW perspective even with fewer ships the CSG is probably more powerful but from an ASW perspective there are more gaps and higher risk I think. The AO(R)s travel unescorted these days which was the job of the FF in the CVBG days.      B 
			
								
			
			 
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