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Allied Production - 12/21/2019 6:08:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ok, so I have played a few days into the Ironman Campaign as allies...things are slowly falling into place (one rivet at a time)...next on my list to figure out is production: I have read the production section of the manual and will start looking at my production centers, etc.. As Allies, is there anything I need to pay special attention to? "Production must do's" as the Allied player? Any push in the right direction would be appreciated!
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RE: Allied Production - 12/21/2019 6:19:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		There really isn't an allied production system. The Japanese have one but that's it.
Some allied players shut down heavy industry on NZ and OZ to conserve fuel, but that is it....GP


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RE: Allied Production - 12/21/2019 7:14:43 PM   
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RE: Allied Production - 12/21/2019 8:25:17 PM   
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You get what you get when you get it, and it should be plenty.

You look a little green with envy about Allied goodies, Sir Gorn!
Oh, wait a minute ...

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RE: Allied Production - 12/21/2019 8:43:19 PM   
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RE: Allied Production - 12/21/2019 10:24:18 PM   
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You get what you get when you get it, and it should be plenty.

You look a little green with envy about Allied goodies, Sir Gorn!
Oh, wait a minute ...

I don't want to know what color an unwell Gorn looks like.

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RE: Allied Production - 12/21/2019 10:54:53 PM   
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You get what you get when you get it, and it should be plenty.

You look a little green with envy about Allied goodies, Sir Gorn!
Oh, wait a minute ...

I don't want to know what color an unwell Gorn looks like.

No. You don't.

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RE: Allied Production - 12/22/2019 10:16:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		Your planes still needs HI for production, so don't turn off all of it.

If you lose Base in which ships will appear, those ships are gone forever. Same with Bases with factories. They get immediately converted into Japanese Vehicle production, and you will not get them back, even after reconquering.

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RE: Allied Production - 12/22/2019 10:47:36 AM   
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Your planes still needs HI for production, so don't turn off all of it.

If you lose Base in which ships will appear, those ships are gone forever. Same with Bases with factories. They get immediately converted into Japanese Vehicle production, and you will not get them back, even after reconquering.

I wouldn't worry about the allied HI. LA alone churns out enough for almost the entire allied air industry.

losing west coast bases though is a real threat … don't let that happen.

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RE: Allied Production - 12/22/2019 12:43:02 PM   
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RE: Allied Production - 12/22/2019 1:03:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		Maybe, but it doesn't matter. Allies gain like 5000 Hi per day … within a month you are maxxed out on the counters, so don't even think about it.

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RE: Allied Production - 12/22/2019 3:28:37 PM   
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RE: Allied Production - 12/22/2019 3:55:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		There are some on-map allied aircraft factories. Like on the West Coast and in Australia (which do not seem to be requiring any engines for completion). You can toggle upgrades for some of the models off, if you prefer older variants for some reason. But that's pretty late in the campaign.

Examples:

SBD-3 vs SBD-5
P-38G vs P-38H/J
B-25C vs later models
B-24D vs later models
Wirraway vs Boomerang C-12
Beaufort VIII (radar & torpedoes!) vs Beaufighter 21

Something to think about.

And, as other have said, there are industries at remote areas that need some consideration as well. Oz, NZ. Even Pearl Harbor has HI.

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RE: Allied Production - 12/22/2019 4:10:14 PM   
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The only thing Allied players are good at producing is excuses.

If I didn't know you were a Gorn, I'd think you were a troll.

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RE: Allied Production - 12/22/2019 4:28:10 PM   
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Your planes still needs HI for production, so don't turn off all of it.

If you lose Base in which ships will appear, those ships are gone forever. Same with Bases with factories. They get immediately converted into Japanese Vehicle production, and you will not get them back, even after reconquering.

I wouldn't worry about the allied HI. LA alone churns out enough for almost the entire allied air industry.

losing west coast bases though is a real threat … don't let that happen.

Some time ago, there was guy here, who turned off all HI production on map, to save fuel. So it is possible :)

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RE: Allied Production - 12/22/2019 5:15:07 PM   
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Your planes still needs HI for production, so don't turn off all of it.

If you lose Base in which ships will appear, those ships are gone forever. Same with Bases with factories. They get immediately converted into Japanese Vehicle production, and you will not get them back, even after reconquering.

I wouldn't worry about the allied HI. LA alone churns out enough for almost the entire allied air industry.

losing west coast bases though is a real threat … don't let that happen.

Some time ago, there was guy here, who turned off all HI production on map, to save fuel. So it is possible :)

DO NOT turn off all Allied HI production. You need the HI points for pilot training. Alfred confirmed that within the past year.

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RE: Allied Production - 12/22/2019 5:17:37 PM   
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The only thing Allied players are good at producing is excuses.

If I didn't know you were a Gorn, I'd think you were a troll.


Yah, we don't have gnomes in our yards either, we have little humans in funny clothes.

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RE: Allied Production - 12/22/2019 6:31:52 PM   
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Your planes still needs HI for production, so don't turn off all of it.

If you lose Base in which ships will appear, those ships are gone forever. Same with Bases with factories. They get immediately converted into Japanese Vehicle production, and you will not get them back, even after reconquering.

I wouldn't worry about the allied HI. LA alone churns out enough for almost the entire allied air industry.

losing west coast bases though is a real threat … don't let that happen.

Some time ago, there was guy here, who turned off all HI production on map, to save fuel. So it is possible :)

Really, when the allies are swimming in Fuel? how funny!!!!!





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RE: Allied Production - 12/22/2019 7:31:34 PM   
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There are some on-map allied aircraft factories. Like on the West Coast and in Australia (which do not seem to be requiring any engines for completion).


The Allies don't need engines.

It says so in the manual.

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RE: Allied Production - 12/22/2019 8:12:08 PM   
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The only thing Allied players are good at producing is excuses.

If I didn't know you were a Gorn, I'd think you were a troll.


Yah, we don't have gnomes in our yards either, we have little humans in funny clothes.

Do they have signs that say: 'Stop, Pay Gorn' ?

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RE: Allied Production - 12/23/2019 12:46:40 AM   
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RE: Allied Production - 12/23/2019 12:54:48 AM   
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There are some on-map allied aircraft factories. Like on the West Coast and in Australia (which do not seem to be requiring any engines for completion). You can toggle upgrades for some of the models off, if you prefer older variants for some reason. But that's pretty late in the campaign.

Examples:

SBD-3 vs SBD-5
P-38G vs P-38H/J
B-25C vs later models
B-24D vs later models
Wirraway vs Boomerang C-12
Beaufort VIII (radar & torpedoes!) vs Beaufighter 21

Something to think about.

And, as other have said, there are industries at remote areas that need some consideration as well. Oz, NZ. Even Pearl Harbor has HI.



Thanks for the reminder, L&L. I keep forgetting to do this (Beaufort VIII especially).

I generally shut down HI on Oz for 1-2 years. It's usually easier to bring supply there than fuel.

Cheers,
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RE: Allied Production - 12/23/2019 1:02:47 PM   
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Well, I do sleep in my quarters under the bridge of my starship. Her name is the SGS Jose Jimenez.

I wonder how many readers remember him! His best line was in the skit about the baseball game when the crowd sang "José, can you see ..."

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RE: Allied Production - 12/23/2019 3:19:24 PM   
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Well, I do sleep in my quarters under the bridge of my starship. Her name is the SGS Jose Jimenez.

I wonder how many readers remember him! His best line was in the skit about the baseball game when the crowd sang "José, can you see ..."

And when he was asked if he wore a crash helmet, "Oh, I hope not".




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RE: Allied Production - 12/23/2019 10:00:42 PM   
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