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3/29/46 1st Deliberate Attack on Tokyo - 12/15/2019 2:33:46 PM

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The first Deliberate Attack on Tokyo's bastion of over 900 LCUs succeeds in dropping the forts to level 8, but wipes out the Allied Combat Engineers leaving serious doubts about the ability to get another fort reduction....

Ground combat at Tokyo (114,60)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 637688 troops, 12721 guns, 6765 vehicles, Assault Value = 19805

Defending force 877960 troops, 5667 guns, 6454 vehicles, Assault Value = 18061

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 8

Allied adjusted assault: 3311

Japanese adjusted defense: 9277

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 8)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
58230 casualties reported
Squads: 1962 destroyed, 82 disabled
Non Combat: 1578 destroyed, 69 disabled
Engineers: 731 destroyed, 17 disabled
Guns lost 784 (771 destroyed, 13 disabled)
Vehicles lost 639 (627 destroyed, 12 disabled)
Units destroyed 41

Allied ground losses:
93885 casualties reported
Squads: 5516 destroyed, 1302 disabled
Non Combat: 1212 destroyed, 420 disabled
Engineers: 1005 destroyed, 265 disabled
Guns lost 1361 (1016 destroyed, 345 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1389 (1092 destroyed, 297 disabled)
Units destroyed 3

Assaulting units:
735th SU Regiment
91st Infantry Division
110th Cmbt Engineer Battalion
184th Rifle Division
5th Marine Division
10th Mechanized Corps
131st Cmbt Engineer Regiment
243rd Rifle Division
97th Rifle Division
264th Rifle Division
4th Marine Division
44th Tank Battalion
378th Guards SU Regiment
27th Infantry Division
277th Engineer Battalion
52nd Rifle Division
395th Guards SU Regiment
203rd Rifle Division
35th Cmbt Engineer Regiment
2nd Marine Division
124th Rifle Division
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
637th Tank Destroyer Battalion
6th USMC Tank Battalion
6th Rifle Division
333rd Guards SU Regiment
478th Guards SU Regiment
144th Rifle Division
40th Infantry Division
262nd Rifle Division
277th Rifle Division
6th Marine Division
1st Marine Division
17th Guards Rifle Division
110th Guards Rifle Division
479th Guards SU Regiment
358th Rifle Division
258th Tank Brigade
3rd Marine Division
713th Flame Tank Battalion
775th Tank Battalion
XXIV Corps Engr Grp
81st Infantry Division
X Corps Engr Grp
8th Army Engr Grp
204th Rifle Division
215th Rifle Division
IX Corps Engr Grp
109th Guards Rifle Division
73rd Tank Brigade
43rd Lndg Craft Coy
98th Infantry Division
159th Rifle Division
3rd Rifle Division
18th Cmbt Engineer Regiment
480th Guards SU Regiment
11th Airborne Division
157th Rifle Division
19th Guards Rifle Division
63rd Rifle Division
221st Rifle Division
12th Rifle Division
4th USMC Tank Battalion
720th Flame Tank Battalion
43rd Infantry Division
396th Rifle Division
5th USMC Tank Battalion
1st USMC Tank Battalion
3rd USMC Tank Battalion
74th Tank Brigade
355th Rifle Division
91st Guards Rifle Division
228th Rifle Division
3rd Mongolian Tank Regiment
461st Mortar Regiment
30th Field Artillery Regiment
532nd Field Artillery Battalion
4th Field Artillery Battalion
2nd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
17th Guards Mortar Brigade
2nd Indian Medium Regiment
1st USMC Field Artillery Battalion
215th Cannon Brigade
24th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
226th Field Artillery Battalion
181st Hvy Howitzer Regiment
26th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
8th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
134th Medium Regiment
26th Guards Mortar Brigade
25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
411th Howitzer Regiment
1129th Hvy Howitzer Regiment
545th Field Artillery Battalion
20th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
544th Field Artillery Battalion
668th Field Artillery Battalion
98th Field Artillery Battalion
10th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
42nd Cannon Regiment
1628th AT Gun Regiment
310th Guards Mortar Regiment
5th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
260th Field Artillery Battalion
249th Field Artillery Battalion
797th Field Artillery Battalion
225th Field Artillery Battalion
531st Field Artillery Battalion
28th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
205th Field Artillery Battalion
147th Howitzer Regiment
192nd OM Gun Battalion
3rd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
88th Mortar Battalion
107th Hvy.Howitzer Brigade
97th Field Artillery Battalion
Eighth US Army
119th Hvy.Howitzer Brigade
12th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
602nd Field Artillery Battalion
31st Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
750th Field Artillery Battalion
114th Hvy Howitzer Regiment
251st Field Artillery Battalion
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
1131st Hvy Howitzer Regiment
550th BM Howitzer Regiment
15th Guards Cannon Brigade
30th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
749th Field Artillery Battalion
465th Mortar Regiment
82nd Mortar Battalion
283rd Guards Mortar Regiment
11th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
134th Field Artillery Battalion
52nd Guards Mortar Regiment
362nd/367th OM Gun Battalion
655th Field Artillery Battalion
222nd Corps Art Brigade
601st Field Artillery Battalion
71st Mortar Battalion
168th Field Artillery Battalion
3rd Gd.Breakthrough Artillery Division
20th Guards Mortar Brigade
98th Mortar Battalion
21st Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
100th OM Howitzer Battalion
6th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
4th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
517th Field Artillery Battalion
131st Field Artillery Battalion
198th Field Artillery Battalion
9th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
181st Mortar Regiment
543rd Field Artillery Battalion
1120th Cannon Regiment
145th Field Artillery Battalion
669th Field Artillery Battalion
227th Cannon Brigade
80th Mortar Battalion
1140th Cannon Regiment
7th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
472nd Mortar Regiment
23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
152nd Cannon Brigade
53rd Guards Mortar Regiment

Defending units:
35th Division
4th Tank Division
92nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
1st Mortar Brigade
2nd RGC Division
7th Ind.Infantry Brigade
38th Ind.Mixed Brigade
2nd Mobile Division
71st Division
Nanking Naval Guard Unit
31st Division
1st Tank Army
15th Ind. Engineer Regiment
27th RGC Temp. Division
83rd Ind.Mixed Brigade
42nd Division
88th Ind.Mixed Brigade
26th Ind.Mixed Brigade
93rd Division
41st Ind.Garrison Brigade
13th Indpt Infantry Regiment
144th Division
68th Ind.Infantry Brigade
201st Division
36th Const Engineer Regiment
11th RGC Ind. Brigade
3rd RGC Capital Division
31st Infantry Brigade
81st Division
80th Ind.Mixed Brigade
48th Ind.Mixed Brigade
103rd Ind.Mixed Brigade
35th Ind.Mixed Brigade
84th Ind.Mixed Brigade
12th RGC Ind. Brigade
90th Ind.Mixed Brigade
21st Ind. Engineer Regiment
66th Division
2nd Raiding Regiment
81st Ind.Mixed Brigade
8th Armored Car Co
Yangtze SNLF
26th RGC Temp. Division
36th Const Engineer Regiment
22nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
60th Ind.Mixed Brigade
2nd Tank Army
4th VM Division
115th Ind.Mixed Brigade
1st Ching An Tui Brigade
5th Garrison Unit
3rd Guards Division
129th Division
34th Tank Regiment
344th Division
25th Division
70th Ind.Mixed Brigade
42nd Brigade
10th Division
31st Ind.Mixed Regiment
5th Armored Car Co
7th RGC Temp. Division
12th Division
50th Division
2nd SP Gun Division
36th Ind.Mixed Brigade
149th Division
91st Infantry Fortress
234th Division
245th Division
5th Infantry Brigade
43rd Division
351st Division
24th NCPC Route Division
2nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
40th Division
54th Const Engineer Regiment
39th Road Const Engineer Regiment
Hilo Assault Force SNLF
6th Division
4th Cavalry Division
10th Ind.Mixed Brigade
8th Garrison Unit
321st Division
47th Const Engineer Regiment
41st Guard Division
1st RGC Capital Division
1st Ind.Infantry Brigade
130th Division
1st Engineer Regiment
140th Division
139th Division
288th Division
2nd Guards Mixed Brigade
27th Tank Regiment
56th Const Engineer Regiment
9th RGC Route Brigade
21st Ind.Mixed Regiment
122nd Division
110th Division
300th Division
33rd Division
291st Division
119th Ind.Mixed Brigade
121st Ind.Mixed Brigade
100th Const Engineer Regiment
301st Division
105th Division
8th Mongol Cavalry Division
25th RGC Temp. Division
10th RGC Temp. Division
76th Ind.Mixed Brigade
28th Ind.Mixed Brigade
138th Division
8th Tank Regiment
101st Ind.Mixed Brigade
49th Ind.Mixed Brigade
23rd Ind.Mixed Brigade
79th Infantry Brigade
11th Ind.Infantry Brigade
22nd Division
Dacoits
302nd Division
124th Ind.Mixed Brigade
9th Ind.Mixed Brigade
59th Ind.Mixed Brigade
59th Division
2nd Ind.Tank Brigade
3rd Mobile Division
104th Division
37th Const Engineer Regiment
132nd Division
55th Const Engineer Regiment
133rd Division
70th Division
230th Division
101st NCPC Route Division
40th Ind.Garrison Brigade
34th Ind.Mixed Brigade
62nd Division
52nd Division
5th Engineer Regiment
4th Tank Division
12th Ind.Infantry Brigade
13th Ind.Infantry Brigade
5th Raiding Force
36th Division
16th RGC Temp. Division
8th Recon Regiment
303rd Ind.Infantry Brigade
80th Division
80th Infantry Brigade
2nd Division
24th Ind.Mixed Brigade
72nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
138th Brigade
7th Ind. Engineer Regiment
117th Ind.Mixed Brigade
98th Division
12th Indpt Infantry Regiment
119th Division
3rd RGC Division
Tanaka Det
32nd Division
17th RGC Temp. Division
1st Guards Division
1st Cavalry Division
3rd Ind.Tank Brigade
132nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
55th Division
37th Division
3rd Ind.Mixed Brigade
71st Ind.Mixed Brigade
5th Mongol Cavalry Division
34th Ind.Mixed Brigade
18th Division
2nd RGC Capital Division
27th Division
14th RGC Temp. Division
1st Ind.Tank Brigade
1st Ind.Mixed Brigade
20th Ind. Engineer Regiment
1st Division
5th Division
7th Mongol Cavalry Division
62nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
4th Engineer Regiment
214th Division
101st Infantry Regiment
65th Division
105th Ind.Mixed Brigade
41st Division
9th Ind. Engineer Regiment
28th Ind.Mixed Brigade
67th Ind.Infantry Brigade
44th Ind.Mixed Brigade
127th Division
21st Division
Ankei SNLF
7th Ind.Tank Brigade
90th Guards Brigade
5th Ind.Mixed Brigade
102nd NCPC Route Division
11th Tank Regiment
354th Division
61st Division
4th Ind. Engineer Regiment
9th Mongol Regiment
100th Ind.Mixed Brigade
Kyuko Naval Guard Unit
2nd Guards Division
66th Ind.Mixed Brigade
2nd Ching An Tui Brigade
8th Ind.Infantry Brigade
118th Division
11th Recon Regiment
97th Ind.Mixed Brigade
68th Division
131st Division
96th Ind.Mixed Brigade
Kanno Det
53rd Const Engineer Regiment
35th Ind.Mixed Brigade
155th Division
18th RGC Temp. Division
3rd FF Const Unit Base Force
102nd POW Cont Co Base Force
General Defence Army
102nd Machine Canno AA Battalion
55th Air Division
3rd Java Engineer Battalion
20th RF Gun Battalion
1st Air Defense AA Regiment
4th Air Division
16th Army
89th Field AA Battalion
7th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind. Field Artillery Regiment
21st AA Regiment
18th Engineer Battalion
54th Field AA Battalion
5th Air Division
25th Field AA Machinecannon Company
16th AA Regiment
96th Field AA Battalion
31st Road Const Co
25th Base Force
27th Base Force
1st Machine Cannon AA Battalion
61st Air Flotilla
51st Army
6th Sumatra Engineer Battalion
26th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
11th Ind. Field Artillery Battalion
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Mortar Battalion
22nd Air Flotilla
Tavoy Engineer Battalion
China Area Fleet
42nd Air Defense AA Battalion
19th Engineer Battalion
35th Const Engineer Regiment
43rd Const Engineer Regiment
9th Air Division
4th Machine Cannon AA Battalion
2nd Shipping Engineer Regiment
4th Mortar Battalion
Pontianak Engineer Battalion
3rd Army
13th RF Gun (Pack) Battalion
8th Ind. Engineer Regiment
10th Area Army
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
Sorong Engineer Battalion
115th AA Regiment
102nd AA Regiment
Tarawa Engineer Battalion
24th Fld AA Machinecannon Company
30th Field AA Machinecannon Company
63rd Field AA Battalion
33rd Army
21st Fld AA Gun Co
5th Air Army
15th Const Co Base Force
NCPC Army
46th Const Co Base Force
Kuching Engineer Battalion
4th Shipping Engineer Regiment
26th Base Force
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment
34th Field AA Battalion
37th Army
13th Air Fleet
18th Engineer Battalion
2nd Area Army
5th Mortar Battalion
28th Mountain Gun Regiment
70th Field AA Battalion
23rd Army
68th Field AA Battalion
2nd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
47th Road Const Co
31st Army
7th Sumatra Engineer Battalion
13th Mortar Battalion
122nd AA Regiment
1st RF Gun Battalion
4th Java Engineer Battalion
2nd Rocket Gun Battalion
41st Army
9th Shin'yo Sqn
51st Road Const Co
3rd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
52nd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
8th Field AF Construction Battalion
29th Field AA Machinecannon Company
2nd Java Engineer Battalion
95th Field AA Battalion
52nd Base Force
36th Base Force
14th Hvy.Artillery Regiment
23rd Air Flotilla
8th Sumatra Engineer Battalion
134th Ind.Mixed Brigade
73rd Field AA Battalion
43rd Army
51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
41st Field AA Battalion
29th Base Force
35th Army
3rd Fleet
7th Medium Mortar Battalion
116th Ind.Mixed Brigade
119th AA Regiment
34th Base Force
II South Seas Engineer Battalion
32nd Field AA Battalion
12th Shin'yo Sqn
52nd Road Const Co
23rd AA Regiment
3rd Air Army
12th Army
38th Field AA Battalion

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RE: 3/29/46 1st Deliberate Attack on Tokyo - 12/15/2019 3:08:53 PM

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I don't see disruption(-) for the defenders. Did you bombard with all your ships in all your fleets before the attack?

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RE: 3/29/46 1st Deliberate Attack on Tokyo - 12/15/2019 3:23:43 PM

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Not all, but at least a half dozen TFs made runs on it. I also bombed troops with every B24, B29, B25, A20, F6, P82, Lancaster and Lincoln in my inventory. B17s hit the airfield.

Yokohama only fell a few days prior so bombardment runs just started. Will be moving Evey available TF to Yokohama while the battered ground troops recover.

Allied AV dropped from just under 20k to 13k.

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RE: 3/29/46 1st Deliberate Attack on Tokyo - 12/15/2019 7:27:40 PM

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lets hope the japanese you... when my buddy and I played vs AndyMac I believe.. I always gave narratives.. like when we took New Zealand, all the islands in cent and so pac.. that I would say we took no prisoners :) we marched them into the ocean! :) great job getting to japan but i hope he bleeds you to failure :)

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RE: 3/29/46 1st Deliberate Attack on Tokyo - 1/28/2020 12:53:42 AM

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I"m currently playing a vs AI version of Focus Pacific and I ended up in a similar situation to you ... like 10k AV of Japanese troops holed up in Tokyo with like 2,000,000 supplies.

I tried assaulting (same as you did) and, while I could occasionally knock the forts down they rebuilt fast ... there are, no joke, 6,000 engineers and something like 500 engineering vehicles in Tokyo, so even if I totally destroy the airfield and ports every turn, they get fully repaired and have enough to work on the forts.

One gamey tactic I have been playing with is pulling troops out of Tokyo to the point where the AI triggers its auto attack mechanic and impales itself on my troops.

Its not clear to me that its physically possible to take Tokyo any other way ... I think with the game mechanics the way they are its not doable in the timeframe of the game.

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RE: 3/29/46 1st Deliberate Attack on Tokyo - 1/28/2020 2:51:07 AM

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quote:

I think with the game mechanics the way they are its not doable in the timeframe of the game.

Massive sustained firepower. Bomb all the facilities, bomb down the industry.

BBs and CAs running shore bombardment relays from Yokohama. 3-4 + escorts per TF may be more effective than 15 BBs in one TF, but YMMV. The exe may turn off industry repair, but will likely attempt to repair the port/airfield/fortifications; the engineers that do this consume supply. Then start bombing the troops so they eat the supply. Check the scenario file to see if the scenario designer has edited in some daily supply dump of 2000 units or similar. That is your baseline, you have to cause damage that will elevate daily expenditure to > 2000. The AI may attempt to repair/reinforce some air-groups from pools... if so good, it will eat supply and you just keep the airfield at 50-100% damaged.

After you are reasonably sure there has been net zero supply for a while, think about commencing ground assaults, and then wait while you bombard it for another month anyway.

Eventually the troops go in, 100% prepped. You only need one Command HQ, and one corps or army HQ 100% prepped with your very best leaders assigned.You will lose a lot of combat engineers, so keep some back to put into further attacks. Attack with lots of tanks. Thousands of tanks. Turn off replacements to those units so the infantry squads do not get replaced, and keep on attacking with tanks. Backed up by thousands of artillery pieces. Attack, rest for a few days, and attack again, rest and maybe rotate some troops, and attack again.

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RE: 3/29/46 1st Deliberate Attack on Tokyo - 1/28/2020 6:19:27 AM

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Actually, strip out the soft devices out of your tank units before they go in. Air transports should do the job.

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RE: 3/29/46 1st Deliberate Attack on Tokyo - 1/28/2020 11:19:43 AM

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In the official standard scenarios it is possible to capture Tokyo from the computer opponent. Very difficult and time consuming, but doable nonetheless. The dev wdolson posted how he achieved it.

All bets are off regarding non official scenarios. Notwithstanding any protestations to the contrary from their designers, all of them further favour the Japanese side.

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RE: 3/29/46 1st Deliberate Attack on Tokyo - 1/28/2020 11:57:27 AM

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I haven't played a turn in some time and am struggling with supply.

I have so much force ashore in the HI that I can't keep it supplied.

Offensive actions are on hold everywhere except Hokkaido and I have only 5 weeks left to play.

A big influx of supply is two weeks out and I may get one more chance for a second round at Tokyo, but will not have adequate time to get the supply problem solved and make the necessary 8+ more rounds of combat that it would require to take the base.

The game will end with Tokyo under siege.

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RE: 3/29/46 1st Deliberate Attack on Tokyo - 1/28/2020 1:11:33 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: pcasey
Its not clear to me that its physically possible to take Tokyo any other way ... I think with the game mechanics the way they are its not doable in the timeframe of the game.

You can capture Tokyo relatively easily with no immediate gamey tricks. However this requires a strategy, that is also a kind of trick that relies on game mechanics. Especially useful against Ironman AI which has zillions of additional units

Most of the units accumulated in Tokyo are those you destroyed elsewhere, and then they revive and refill in the national capital. So the strategy is to deny reviving to the Japanese. Keep destruction of their forces to the minimum and instead leave their units either untouched or kept surrounded somewhere (like POW camps). When you come to Tokyo you would find a far thinner roster waiting for you

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RE: 3/29/46 1st Deliberate Attack on Tokyo - 1/29/2020 12:33:36 AM

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I once took Tokyo in either an Andy Mac Ironman scenario or Ian R's "The Long Road to Tokyo" (which is an Ironman adaptation with more Allied toys) on my current computer. I did a lot of shore bombardment but very little aerial bombardment since flak was deadly. I probably had at least half of all non-restricted infantry, armor, combat engineers and artillery in on the attack. It was very much a multinational effort. I'll see if I can dig up a combat report. One of the benefits of Ironman scenarios is you can eventually capture huge amounts of supply on the Home Islands, thereby obviating the need to send convoys.

Several years ago on an old computer I initiated an attack on Tokyo, went to sleep, and woke up the next day with the turn still processing. I cut the game at that point.

EDIT: Hans: Did you not capture a lot of supply at Nagasaki, Fukuoka, Kobe or Osaka? If I recall correctly, at least two of those were huge dumps in my last game.

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RE: 3/29/46 1st Deliberate Attack on Tokyo - 1/29/2020 6:45:09 AM

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

Actually, strip out the soft devices out of your tank units before they go in. Air transports should do the job.

Good idea.

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RE: 3/29/46 1st Deliberate Attack on Tokyo - 1/29/2020 6:47:21 AM

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ORIGINAL: Alfred

In the official standard scenarios it is possible to capture Tokyo from the computer opponent.� Very difficult and time consuming, but doable nonetheless.� The dev wdolson posted how he achieved it.

All bets are off regarding non official scenarios.� Notwithstanding any protestations to the contrary from their designers, all of them further favour the Japanese side.

Alfred

Mine doesn't.

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RE: 3/29/46 1st Deliberate Attack on Tokyo - 1/29/2020 12:04:37 PM

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ORIGINAL: CaptBeefheart

I once took Tokyo in either an Andy Mac Ironman scenario or Ian R's "The Long Road to Tokyo" (which is an Ironman adaptation with more Allied toys) on my current computer. I did a lot of shore bombardment but very little aerial bombardment since flak was deadly. I probably had at least half of all non-restricted infantry, armor, combat engineers and artillery in on the attack. It was very much a multinational effort. I'll see if I can dig up a combat report. One of the benefits of Ironman scenarios is you can eventually capture huge amounts of supply on the Home Islands, thereby obviating the need to send convoys.

Several years ago on an old computer I initiated an attack on Tokyo, went to sleep, and woke up the next day with the turn still processing. I cut the game at that point.

EDIT: Hans: Did you not capture a lot of supply at Nagasaki, Fukuoka, Kobe or Osaka? If I recall correctly, at least two of those were huge dumps in my last game.

Cheers,
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No I didn't get any windfalls on taking major bases. I bled most of them dry of supply while reducing their forts.

I also did the exact opposite of what GetAssista recommends in that I made a point of chasing down and destroying every last Japanese LCU in my path.

I have never been able to get Long Road to Tokyo to run.

Very disappointed as I was really looking forward to trying that one.

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RE: 3/29/46 1st Deliberate Attack on Tokyo - 1/29/2020 10:05:39 PM

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ORIGINAL: HansBolter

I have never been able to get Long Road to Tokyo to run.

I never could work out why it ran on some machines, but not others. When I got a new computer with 8Gb Ram it loaded happily.

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RE: 3/29/46 1st Deliberate Attack on Tokyo - 1/30/2020 12:28:05 AM

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I found the Long Road to Tokyo installation last night after I got back from the pub and I dug up the fateful combat report from 2017. I've attached it if anyone wants to look at it. I think I did a fair amount of shore bombardment and I also don't think most of those IJ units in Tokyo were very filled out. Talking about overkill: I had 80,843 AV vs. 749 (adjusted to 19:1).

As I think about it, this particular game may not have had so much supply waiting for me on the home islands. I think lack of supply slowed me down a bit and I couldn't base any bombers on the HI until I organized some huge supply convoys.

Cheers,
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RE: 3/29/46 1st Deliberate Attack on Tokyo - 1/31/2020 1:49:23 PM

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ORIGINAL: HansBolter

I have never been able to get Long Road to Tokyo to run.

I never could work out why it ran on some machines, but not others. When I got a new computer with 8Gb Ram it loaded happily.

It fails on my 32g machine........

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RE: 3/29/46 1st Deliberate Attack on Tokyo - 2/2/2020 11:59:45 PM

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Hans,

If I remember correctly, someone sent me a first turn file of Long Road and that worked. If you're interested, I could try to dig it up at home (just started work on Monday morning here while the rest of y'all watch the Super Bowl).

Cheers,
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Beer, because barley makes lousy bread.

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