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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 2/19/2020 8:19:43 PM   
Orm


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Both Chinese reorganize their lines. See pictures in upcoming posts.

France:
HQI (55,31) -> 58,32
HQI (Paris) -> 55,29

USA Debarks HQI to Honolulu.


Air rebase:

France:
FTR2 (56,31) -> 59,30
LND3 (Strasbourg) -> 58,32

CW:
The Polish air force is interned in Rumania.


France reorganize two land units in Lyons.



Picture from Sep/Oct '39 Impulse #2 (Allies) - Reorganization

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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 2/19/2020 8:25:20 PM   
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Picture from Sep/Oct '39 Impulse #3 (Axis) - DOW

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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 2/19/2020 8:30:32 PM   
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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 2/19/2020 8:31:12 PM   
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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 2/19/2020 8:33:34 PM   
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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 2/19/2020 8:35:34 PM   
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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 2/19/2020 8:37:15 PM   
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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 2/20/2020 3:51:56 AM   
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Impulse: 3 (Axis)

Declarations of War and Alignments: None

Japan: Combined
Germany: Land
Italy: Combined

Port Attack: None
Naval Air: None

Naval Movement:
Japan

For some reason I have a Manchurian TERR in my Japan picks (although maybe WAD?) so I have to waste a TRS on moving it out of Japan to Manchuria. A total of 5 ships with sea lift capability transfer Yammamoto, ENG, Marine, ART and TERR to the China Sea 0-box.

Strategic Bombardment: None
Ground Strike:
Germany

Two stukas head for Warsaw - the second stuka saves the situation after the first mis-heard the orders, flew for Walsall, ran out of fuel on its way to the Midlands, and ditched in the Baltic.




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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 2/20/2020 4:12:16 AM   
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Impulse: 3 (Axis)

Rail Movement:
Japan

An SNLF heads for Suchow

Land Movement:
Italy

The 1st Inf Div heads for the French border

Germany

The Germans move on Warsaw, while the German Armour heads in the opposite direction.

Japan

The Japanese in the north continue their march south, or at least three of them do.

Land Combat:
Germany

One attack announced - that against Warsaw.

No Ground Support.

Its 5:1+2 reduced to 4:1+2 because of the rain. On behalf of the Allies I naturally choose Assault as this is to save Poland from being conquered.

The Fractionals fail (170 throw) and the land throw is a 7(9). The Polish forces in the capital are destroyed.




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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 2/20/2020 4:33:08 AM   
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Impulse: 3 (Axis)

Air Rebase:
Germany

Two Bf-109s head west as far as they can.

Reorganisation: None

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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 2/20/2020 1:47:00 PM   
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USSR demands Bessarabia from Rumania.

I assume that the claim is allowed. Otherwise I will go back and begin the impulse with a diplomatic note that say that a state of war is now in effect between USSR and Rumania.

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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 2/20/2020 1:57:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1

For some reason I have a Manchurian TERR in my Japan picks (although maybe WAD?) so I have to waste a TRS on moving it out of Japan to Manchuria.
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No, it is not a TERR.

Yes, it is WAD.

The Manchurian unit is a MIL. And it can begin in Japan. Perhaps one could consider it a militia sent to Japan for training?

And it is a Manchurian unit but it may still travel the world as a part of the Japanese military. Just beware minor country co-operation. Korea and Formosa has units it can not stack, nor fight, with.

Edit: The TERR must begin within their home country. This does not apply to MIL.


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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 2/20/2020 3:54:56 PM   
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Impulse: 5 (Allies)

No (other) declarations of war.

Land:
Combined: USA, USSR, France, China, CW
Naval:

Allies go all combined. First time, I think, I have ever seen this.


No port strikes. No naval air.


Naval moves:

USA:
CP (Bismarck Sea) -> Legaspi
One BB sail from the East coast to the West coast. And vice versa.

CW:
TRS (Alexandra) + HQA -> Bay of Biscay (0-box)
CA + TRS (Portsmouth) + MOT -> North Sea (3-box)

France:
BB (Brest) -> North Sea (3-box)


No strategic bombing. No Ground Strikes.


Rail Moves:
HQI - Timoshenko (54,53) -> 32,56


Land Moves:

The Soviet 1st cavalry advance into the Eastern part of Poland and begin the Soviet occupation. USA object to this increase of hostilities. (1 rolled and one US entry chit removed)

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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 2/20/2020 4:19:56 PM   
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USSR:
3 units in the Ural area move towards railway hubs
HQA (44,69) -> 43,66

China:
The 13th stationary reserve Army liberate Nanchang.
HQI (86,142) -> Changsha

France:
MIL (Lyons) -> 60,32


Debark:

CW:
HQA (Bay of Biscay) -> 61,24 (France)
MOT (North Sea) -> Calais
Sep/Oct 1939
Impulse: 5 (Allies)


Air Rebase:

CW:
ATR3 (Harwich) -> Portsmouth
FTR2 (Harwich) -> 49,29

USSR:
FTR2 -> Vitebsk
FTR2 -> SE Minsk
LND4 -> Leningrad
LND3 -> Pskov
All 4 aircraft were based on the Rumanian border.


No reorganization.

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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 2/20/2020 4:26:32 PM   
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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 2/20/2020 4:31:02 PM   
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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 2/20/2020 4:37:22 PM   
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Picture from Sep/Oct '39 Impulse #7 (Axis) - DOW

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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 2/20/2020 4:39:40 PM   
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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 2/20/2020 4:41:42 PM   
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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 2/20/2020 11:27:18 PM   
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BEF arrive in France.


What are those vehicles in Orm's picture?

I hate to say it, but they look cute, which is not the impression one wants one's AFVs to give.

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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 2/21/2020 12:10:17 AM   
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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 2/21/2020 8:04:46 AM   
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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 2/21/2020 4:32:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		A faithful follower of the AAR might wonder why on earth China took a Combined impulse the last allied impulse. Well the reason is because of our House rule “Limited Chinese action choice”. Se below:

Limited Chinese action choice

Description:
Nationalist China can only choose take land impulse after Japan has done any one of below:
• Made a land attack on any Chinese (Both nationalist and communist) unit during the current turn or the previous turn.
• Has taken control of any Chinese (Both nationalist and communist) controlled hex during the previous impulse.

Reason:
The European scale map makes hard for Japanese. With the old map they could often manage by only doing 3 land moves; 1-2 on any front and 1-2 to block the Chinese with ZOC or presence. Now they have a hard time with many holes to plug so they can't attack or pursue the breakthrough units.
This option makes the historical stalemate in China more likely.

Historical Note:
The often poorly trained, under-equipped, under-supplied and somewhat disorganized state of the nationalist army made it hard to manoeuvre and attack with. Often -even with a pre build-up- Chinese offensive grounded to a halt, with the fighting became a stalemate with both sides suffering losses and making minimal changes in the front line.

I will try to keep count on how many times this happens during the game.

Statistics of Limited Chinese action choice
Year: Number of Occurrences
1939: 1


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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 2/21/2020 5:04:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		I like your houserule much more than the official "chinese attack weakness".
However, the two combined would be complete humbug (I hope you are not doing that ).

Historically, what the Chinese lacked was initiative, not manpower or the ability to hurt the Japanese.
So long story short, in MWiF, I'd argue for much more Chinese units on the map, in combination with your houserule (maybe even expanded a little).

That would be a much better simulation than this... "attack weakness" rule, wich IMHO is bull .

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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 2/21/2020 6:07:29 PM   
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Description:
Nationalist China can only choose take land impulse after Japan has done any one of below:
• Made a land attack on any Chinese (Both nationalist and communist) unit during the current turn or the previous turn.


You actually mean turn here or do you mean impulse?

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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 2/21/2020 6:36:02 PM   
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Impulse: 7 (Axis)

Declarations of War and Alignments: None, although the Germans allow South Dobruja etc to do its thing.

Japan: Land
Germany: Land
Italy: Combined

Naval Air: None

Naval Movement: None

Rail Movement:
Germany

Aachen starts building up (2 x Infantry and an ART)

Land Movement:
Japan

Troops unload from the transports to Manchuria and China (North and Central) and units from Manchuria continue their trek south.

Germany

As many forces as possible up sticks and head west

Italy

There are some manoeuvrings on the French border

Air Rebase:
Germany

Four fighters continue their journey as far west as they can go (except the Bf-110 which takes up station to guard the oil fields).

Reorganisation: None

End of Turn: Turn ends on less than a 2 (a 5 is thrown)


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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 2/22/2020 8:12:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: rkr1958


quote:

ORIGINAL: peskpesk
Description:
Nationalist China can only choose take land impulse after Japan has done any one of below:
• Made a land attack on any Chinese (Both nationalist and communist) unit during the current turn or the previous turn.


You actually mean turn here or do you mean impulse?

Turn.

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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 2/22/2020 8:21:54 AM   
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Impulse: 9 (Allies)

No declarations of war.

Land:
Combined: USA, USSR, France, China, CW
Naval:

No port strikes. No naval air.

Naval Moves:

France:
CA (Brest) -> Baltic Sea (4-box)



The light cruiser Duguay-Trouin leave Brest on her mission to raid the German Baltic convoys.

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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 2/22/2020 8:37:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		Naval Movement Continued:

CW:
TRS (Southhampton) + HQI -> North Sea 3-box
Liner + CA (Porthsmouth) + MOT -> Bay of Biscay 0-box

USA:
BB (Norfolk) -> Mexican Coast
Cl (San Diego) -> Caribbean Sea
CA (San Dieago) -> Norfolk


France initiate combat in the Baltic Sea.



Picture from Sep/Oct '39 Impulse #9 (Allies) - Naval Combat

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RE: News From the Front - 4 player game - 2/22/2020 8:42:52 AM   
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