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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 2/23/2020 12:07:46 PM   
jesperpehrson


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Status: offline 		The Italian roll is 13 and CW has to abort front fighter or bomber. CW aborts the fighter.
The CW roll is 8 and it has no effect.
CW aborts the portstrike.

The allied planes lands on their respective CV-ship and the Italians fighter returns to Turin.

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 2/23/2020 12:15:28 PM   
jesperpehrson


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Impulse: 7 (Allies)


Naval Air: None
Naval Movement: France sails the cruisers in Syria to the Italian Coast (4 box).

Naval combat:
France elects to initiate combat in the Italian Coast sea area.


Allied roll is a 8 and the Italian roll is a 4 so no naval combat.

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 2/23/2020 12:48:58 PM   
jesperpehrson


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Sep/Oct 1939
Impulse: 7 (Allies)
Strategic Bombing: None
Ground Strike: None

Rail Movement: A russian GARR is railed to Vilna in Poland.

Turn sent to Ronnie for landmoves.

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 2/23/2020 5:00:50 PM   
rkr1958


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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 2/23/2020 5:01:49 PM   
rkr1958


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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 2/23/2020 5:06:13 PM   
jesperpehrson


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Impulse: 7 (Allies)

Landmoves:
USSR and China will be posted separatly by Ronnie.

France shuffled in the south of France moving into Toulon, to defend in the mountains.


CW advances against the out of supply Italians near Tobruk.


The CW also reinforces Malta with an infantry division.


No landcombat

Airrebases:
USSR moves a FTR to Chita.


Rolled to see if the turn ended on a 1. Rolled 4 so turn back to the axis.

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 2/23/2020 5:19:58 PM   
warspite1


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Impulse: 9 (Axis)

Weather: The roll is a 2




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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 2/23/2020 7:57:59 PM   
WILHELM_slith

 

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Status: offline 		Japan chooses a land move. No special actions. Rail move 105mm art to Kaifeng and 28th garrison from Mukden to Tsingtao.
No air actions. Need file back for movement.

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 2/24/2020 2:46:43 AM   
warspite1


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Impulse: 9 (Axis)

Declarations of War and Alignments: None

Japan: Land
Germany: Land
Italy: Combined

Port Attack: None
Naval Air: None

Naval Movement:
Italy

A convoy moves into the Italian Coast. In order to move the game along I assume the French will seek to intercept. There is no reason not to.

The search roll was 8 so the convoy was undetected. However, I can't then move it further (must be in the presence of the enemy rule perhaps?). So that was a waste of time and the convoy remains in the Italian coast.....

But worse, the French now get a throw at initiating combat themselves....

The throws are 4 and 4 and so the Italians are surprised (4 surprise points).

I increase the damage to the maximum and another Italian convoy is consigned to the bottom of the sea and the other aborted. That was an expensive mistake.




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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 2/24/2020 6:41:20 AM   
warspite1


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Impulse: 9 (Axis)

Strategic Bombing:
Germany

A NAV attempts to hit Hull and environs. One point was lost (8 thrown)




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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 2/24/2020 6:50:51 AM   
warspite1


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Impulse: 9 (Axis)

Ground Strike: None

Rail Movement:
Japan

An ART railed to Kaifeng from the coast
A GARR railed from Mukden to Tsingtao

Land Movement:
Italy

An ART and MOT moved into the mountains near the Switz border.

Germany

The Germans look to surround Warsaw, while some troops continue to push toward the west.

Over to WILHELM for the Japanese moves

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 2/24/2020 8:50:57 AM   
WILHELM_slith

 

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 2/24/2020 9:34:49 AM   
warspite1


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Impulse: 9 (Axis)

Land Combat:
Germany

One Attack announced against Warsaw

HQ Support from von Rundstedt

Japan

One attack announced against a Chinese CAV
No Ground Support
No HQ Support

Both attacks are +17. I take these in the order of the program - Chinese first then Warsaw.

I assume Assault for Warsaw as there is no where to retreat to. What about China - Assault or Blitzkrieg?


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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 2/24/2020 11:14:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		Roll 12 in assault on Chinese Cav. Cav destroyed.The Japanese 33th garrison moves into the conquered hex.

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 2/24/2020 11:22:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: WILHELM_slith

Roll 12 in assault on Chinese Cav. Cav destroyed.The Japanese 33th garrison moves into the conquered hex.
warspite1

How do you know the Chinese wanted Assault as opposed to Blitz?


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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 2/24/2020 11:23:49 AM   
WILHELM_slith

 

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Status: offline 		No air rebase or HQ reorganisation for the Japs. The Germans can finish this impuls.

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 2/24/2020 11:38:13 AM   
WILHELM_slith

 

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 2/24/2020 11:50:00 AM   
warspite1


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Impulse: 9 (Axis)

Land Combat:
Germany

On behalf of the CW I choose Assault as there is nowhere to retreat to.

The throw was a 15 and the poles lose two units with the third shattered. But as there was no retreat path, the third unit is also destroyed.




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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 2/24/2020 11:56:32 AM   
warspite1


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Impulse: 9 (Axis)

Air Rebase:
Germany

A Bf-110 rebases to Nurnberg

Italy

A fighter rebases east of Turin

Reorganisation: None

Turn Ends on Less than a 4: A 9 is thrown

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 2/24/2020 12:23:07 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Sep/Oct 1939
Impulse: 9 (Axis)

Land Combat:
Germany

On behalf of the CW I choose Assault as there is nowhere to retreat to.



Yes, there was a retreat path: Onto the units to the southeast, for an over stack, and then one more hex southeast. Of course, since the die roll was a 23, it makes no difference which table was chosen.

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 2/24/2020 2:59:00 PM   
jesperpehrson


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What does it mean?




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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 2/24/2020 3:06:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: jesperpehrson

There was a dieroll about Belgium that I do not understand.
What does it mean?




I can take this one. Ignore it.

This roll is for our 4-player game when Germany DOW Belgium and warspite1 should have put in our French players email but accidently (apparently) put in your email there instead.

So wrong player and wrong game.

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 2/24/2020 3:08:02 PM   
Orm


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Courtenay


quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Sep/Oct 1939
Impulse: 9 (Axis)

Land Combat:
Germany

On behalf of the CW I choose Assault as there is nowhere to retreat to.



Yes, there was a retreat path: Onto the units to the southeast, for an over stack, and then one more hex southeast. Of course, since the die roll was a 23, it makes no difference which table was chosen.

The assault and no retreat comment was for the German attack on Belgium. And the Poles had nowhere to go.


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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 2/24/2020 4:09:43 PM   
jesperpehrson


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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 2/24/2020 4:12:28 PM   
warspite1


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Courtenay


quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Sep/Oct 1939
Impulse: 9 (Axis)

Land Combat:
Germany

On behalf of the CW I choose Assault as there is nowhere to retreat to.



Yes, there was a retreat path: Onto the units to the southeast, for an over stack, and then one more hex southeast. Of course, since the die roll was a 23, it makes no difference which table was chosen.
warspite1

Did I read the rules wrong? If units are totally and completely surrounded are they able to leapfrog over the enemy to safety?


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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 2/24/2020 4:42:56 PM   
Orm


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ORIGINAL: warspite1


quote:

ORIGINAL: Courtenay


quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Sep/Oct 1939
Impulse: 9 (Axis)

Land Combat:
Germany

On behalf of the CW I choose Assault as there is nowhere to retreat to.



Yes, there was a retreat path: Onto the units to the southeast, for an over stack, and then one more hex southeast. Of course, since the die roll was a 23, it makes no difference which table was chosen.
warspite1

Did I read the rules wrong? If units are totally and completely surrounded are they able to leapfrog over the enemy to safety?


No, you are correct.

I think that there is a misunderstanding here. Courtenay is talking about the Chinese assault where a retreat path was available. While warspite1 correctly concluded that the Poles had no retreat path.

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 2/24/2020 4:53:40 PM   
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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 2/24/2020 5:01:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Turn 1. Sep/Oct 1939. Allied #10, EOI. Northern/Central China.

The Nationalist liberate Tungkwan and force the Ki-27 IJA fighter group there to high tail to evacuate to the safety of Kaifeng, China.




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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 2/24/2020 5:01:38 PM   
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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 2/24/2020 5:02:10 PM   
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