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RE: OT - The New Coronavirus - 3/6/2020 3:22:04 AM

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Give us 8 billion that will not be tracked! Just like the nonsense with the Ebola 2 cases in the US. Ridiculous.

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RE: OT - The New Coronavirus - 3/7/2020 5:09:27 AM

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2/3 of the US Congress attended the AIPAC conference. AIPAC admitted that two attendees have already tested positive for the coronavirus. https://www.rt.com/usa/482542-aipac-two-positive-coronavirus/

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RE: OT - The New Coronavirus - 3/7/2020 10:21:54 AM

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Greetings to All,
NY state Corona Virus increased again from 22 to 45:
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/more-cases-of-coronavirus-expected-as-ny-plans-to-expand-testing-ability/2314911/

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RE: OT - The New Coronavirus - 3/7/2020 12:19:29 PM

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Yes, but as a percentage of the population it is still low. Take sensible sanitary precautions, eat properly which includes looking up foods and supplements that have anti-viral properties that work against this virus, and relax since stress can work against you. If possible, stay away from sick people or people whose family members are ill if it may be this virus. Enjoy the nice, warm winter air outside and away from a mass of people. Just don't consume the anti-freeze until you are inside and won't be going back outside.

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RE: OT - The New Coronavirus - 3/7/2020 1:07:44 PM

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In Omaha, Nebraska a woman returned from the U.K. and while in the U.K. felt a little off. Got back to Omaha and for 8 days didn't get any worse. Then after 8 days in public her condition worsened and she was put in hospital with Covid-19. So this woman was likely sick with it in the U.K., on the plane back, conducting life as normal while being contagious the entire time. This virus is exceedingly difficult to avoid. This is an example why.

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RE: OT - The New Coronavirus - 3/7/2020 1:14:40 PM

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One case announced in Clark county. And everyone is running to store buying up toilet paper, water, canned vegetables. I went to Costco they were out of water, toilet paper.

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RE: OT - The New Coronavirus - 3/7/2020 1:21:45 PM

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One case announced in Clark county. And everyone is running to store buying up toilet paper, water, canned vegetables. I went to Costco they were out of water, toilet paper.

It has been discovered that where there is one there are many less apparent. It is thought that Covid-19 has been present in the U.S. long before the first deaths or people put in hospitals. People think they have a cold or the flu. Fairly simple to understand why many are on edge since it is basically hidden among other seasonal diseases. And then when you get scientists saying 40% to 70% of the planet will contract this with tens of millions of deaths...

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RE: OT - The New Coronavirus - 3/7/2020 1:39:41 PM

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Greetings RangerJoe,
Yes, the percentage of people affected in NY state is very small:
45/20,000,000 = 0.00000225 x 100% =0.000225%
However, Emperor Cuomo is on local National Public Radio (NPR) radio station and tv stations every day talking about procedures to protect against Corona Virus which you would think would calm the public. But there are runs on hand sanitizer, hand wipes, bottled water and food, not to mention toilet paper.

Here is the NPR comic book for kids on Corona Virus:
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/02/28/809580453/just-for-kids-a-comic-exploring-the-new-coronavirus

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RE: OT - The New Coronavirus - 3/7/2020 2:14:32 PM

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Well, maybe they should also check on the infectious rate of other diseases then report on them. I mean, with people now taking more care for what should be normal sanitary procedures like washing their hands after using the restroom. Unless, of course, they like the added flavor . . . and the added Hepatitis A among other things.

Of course, the hot air hand dryers just spread germs all over . . .

The Dirty Truth About Hand Dryers
Some dryers spread germs instead of removing them
https://health.clevelandclinic.org/the-dirty-truth-about-hand-dryers/

The bacterial horror of hot-air hand dryers
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/the-bacterial-horror-of-the-hot-air-hand-dryer-2018051113823

Is hand sanitizer better at preventing the flu than soap and water?
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/is-hand-sanitizer-better-at-preventing-the-flu-than-soap-and-water-2018111315327

If you go out to eat like at a buffet, just be very careful of getting finger foods after people who don't wash their hands handle the serving implements . . .

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RE: OT - The New Coronavirus - 3/7/2020 2:15:31 PM

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https://www.businessinsider.com/presentation-us-hospitals-preparing-for-millions-of-hospitalizations-2020-3

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RE: OT - The New Coronavirus - 3/7/2020 2:28:59 PM

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That is good news. Hope for the best, expect the worst, and you won't be disappointed. Nor caught like they were in Wuhan which made it worse.

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RE: OT - The New Coronavirus - 3/7/2020 2:41:53 PM

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I'm glad they are preparing, but I wouldn't call it "good news" that this is what they expect.

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RE: OT - The New Coronavirus - 3/7/2020 2:47:01 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Jonathan Pollard

2/3 of the US Congress attended the AIPAC conference. AIPAC admitted that two attendees have already tested positive for the coronavirus. https://www.rt.com/usa/482542-aipac-two-positive-coronavirus/

Mr. Pollard you need to update your location as you have been released from Federal Prison.

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RE: OT - The New Coronavirus - 3/7/2020 2:52:32 PM

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It is good news that they are preparing to that extent. I should have been more verbose. My bad.

I have been in isolation myself. The pretty nurses had to cover themselves up.

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RE: OT - The New Coronavirus - 3/7/2020 7:53:01 PM

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Greetings to All,
NY state now in declared state of emergency with 76 confirmed Corona Virus cases while 4,000+ are in quarantine awaiting testing or test results across the state:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/coronavirus-new-york-update-cuomo-state-emergency

Two cases are now confirmed in Saratoga county:(getting close to home for me)
https://www.wamc.org/post/cuomo-two-covid-19-cases-saratoga-county

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RE: OT - The New Coronavirus - 3/7/2020 8:05:10 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lobster

quote:

ORIGINAL: Zap

One case announced in Clark county. And everyone is running to store buying up toilet paper, water, canned vegetables. I went to Costco they were out of water, toilet paper.

It has been discovered that where there is one there are many less apparent. It is thought that Covid-19 has been present in the U.S. long before the first deaths or people put in hospitals. People think they have a cold or the flu. Fairly simple to understand why many are on edge since it is basically hidden among other seasonal diseases. And then when you get scientists saying 40% to 70% of the planet will contract this with tens of millions of deaths...

Fortunately our government officials have told people they don't need to do that. At least some local government sanity.

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RE: OT - The New Coronavirus - 3/7/2020 9:07:21 PM

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From the University of Chicago School of Medicine, September 2016. I'd say they now have a case study:

Cobey and her colleagues simulated climate conditions, population dynamics and patterns of flu epidemics in these regions and found that only the transmission rate had a significant effect on the evolution of new strains that had the potential to spread globally. A transmission rate 17-28 percent higher in one region could explain historically observed patterns of flu epidemics.

"We basically find that increasing the transmission rate just a little bit greatly accelerates the rate at which antigenically novel strains can displace one another," Cobey said.

Understanding how and why seasonal flu tends to originate in these areas reinforces the need for surveillance to identify new strains, not just in the affected parts of Asia, but other parts of the world with high-density populations, like west Africa. It also highlights how public health efforts to limit the spread of flu, namely widespread vaccination, can also limit the emergence of new strains.

Cobey said that while the team's analysis focused initially on flu, it can also apply to any fast-evolving, human transmissible viruses like enteroviruses and colds.

"They spread from continent to continent over a pretty short time scale, so it will be exciting to see if we find similar patterns down the road once we have better surveillance of all these viruses," she said.

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RE: OT - The New Coronavirus - 3/7/2020 9:51:18 PM

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The whole region of Lombardy plus surrounding areas is in lockdown. No one will be able to enter and exit the "Red Zone" without a permit and serious reasons. Think of 1997: Escape from New York.

Both the area and the number of people hit by this decree can be compared to the Netherlands.

I fear that other areas of the World will follow

I won't name the obvious ones because even the thought is scary.

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RE: OT - The New Coronavirus - 3/7/2020 10:02:43 PM

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Wow it really is getting to look like a zombie apocalypse.

I'm expecting to hear reports of horse drawn carts trundling through the streets with men in rags shouting, 'Bring out your dead, bring out your dead'.

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RE: OT - The New Coronavirus - 3/7/2020 10:10:19 PM

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And I will say "Don't forget me!!".

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RE: OT - The New Coronavirus - 3/7/2020 10:50:01 PM

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ORIGINAL: DD696

And I will say "Don't forget me!!".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdqoNKCCt7A

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RE: OT - The New Coronavirus - 3/8/2020 1:14:40 AM

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Coronavirus has now hit my home town in The United States in Monco. County, PA. 2 Cases haves been reported this morning by the CDC and Gov. Tom Wolf. our State Gov. the Case of the Illness was reported a few days ago in Wayne County 39 miles from me in PA according to CDC and Gov. Wolf. So it is in the North part of the State by me and in the East part of the State in my home town by my mother. Please Pray for me and my family.

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RE: OT - The New Coronavirus - 3/8/2020 2:00:27 AM

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Stay safe and hibernate if you have to.

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RE: OT - The New Coronavirus - 3/8/2020 3:33:56 AM

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I'm really surprised that no one commenting on these Coronavirus threads has picked up on the key news. It was reported in a newspaper in the UK on Friday that there is an area in California that has recorded its first case... and that is just ten miles from where the Kardashians live.

Can we get real here people - let's stay concentrated on what's important. I say again, ten miles.

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RE: OT - The New Coronavirus - 3/8/2020 7:11:01 AM

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I'm really surprised that no one commenting on these Coronavirus threads has picked up on the key news. It was reported in a newspaper in the UK on Friday that there is an area in California that has recorded its first case... and that is just ten miles from where the Kardashians live.

Can we get real here people - let's stay concentrated on what's important. I say again, ten miles.

10 miles? It's time for the K's to flee to their country villa, like the Decameron.

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RE: OT - The New Coronavirus - 3/8/2020 11:11:03 AM

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Boccacio was a nice read, but Camus stayed with more impact.

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RE: OT - The New Coronavirus - 3/8/2020 11:59:10 AM

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ORIGINAL: warspite1

I'm really surprised that no one commenting on these Coronavirus threads has picked up on the key news. It was reported in a newspaper in the UK on Friday that there is an area in California that has recorded its first case... and that is just ten miles from where the Kardashians live.

Can we get real here people - let's stay concentrated on what's important. I say again, ten miles.

Who? What? Why?

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RE: OT - The New Coronavirus - 3/8/2020 1:00:51 PM

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You are so lucky if you don't know who the Kardashians are.

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RE: OT - The New Coronavirus - 3/8/2020 3:38:32 PM

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