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ORIGINAL: durnedwolf

Hey RangeJoe,

In regards to the arthritis medications info and link you posted - I wanted to say thanks. My wife contacted her doctor to ask about any known complications for people using her medication and regimen for rheumatoid arthritis. The doctor basically said there wasn't a strong sample size nor many within his network that had any working experience with the virus yet.

In the end, he basically told her to try extra-hard not to catch the virus... <wry grin>.

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ORIGINAL: mind_messing

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

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ORIGINAL: mind_messing

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

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ORIGINAL: mind_messing

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

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ORIGINAL: mind_messing

The data really does have no political viewpoints.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/access-to-health-care.htm

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Percent of persons who failed to obtain needed medical care due to cost: 4.8%

I don't see where the cost is concerned, the person or the medical insurance organization or the medical provider.

BTW, the CDC does have a political agenda.

When you keep stating "no political agenda" it makes it sound, at least to me, that there is a political agenda.

The person.

Curious as to your claim that the CDC has a political agenda, that's news to me, not being from the US. Would you mind expanding on it?

Every governmental entity has a political agenda. More money, larger budgets, more control => more power. The CDC apparently stopped other entities in the United States from developing tests for the Corona virus, that meant that any tests had to come from the CDC. Meaning that the CDC could ask for more money, more employees, and hence, more power.

Interesting. Have you a source for that?

It is the way that things work in any business entity, governmental entity, or other organizations. Offices with a window, corner offices are even more prestigious. A secretary for just one person and not shared, how many assistants (if any) are all signs of power. Even if they make the workload heavier and are not needed. I suggest that you take some college business courses for the sources. Don't forget to take simple economic courses as well. Not to mention higher level courses if needed.

You've misunderstood - a source for your claim that the CDC stopped manufacture of testing kits.

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With a vaccine for COVID-19 still a long way from being realized, Johns Hopkins immunologist Arturo Casadevall is working to revive a century-old blood-derived treatment for use in the United States in hopes of slowing the spread of the disease.

With the right pieces in place, the treatment could be set up at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore within a matter of weeks, Casadevall says.

The technique uses antibodies from the blood plasma or serum of people who have recovered from COVID-19 infection to boost the immunity of newly infected patients and those at risk of contracting the disease. These antibodies contained in the blood's serum have the ability to bind to and neutralize SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. Casadevall—a Bloomberg Distinguished Professor of molecular microbiology and immunology and infectious diseases at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health and School of Medicine—published a paper on the proposal today in The Journal of Clinical Investigation.

"Deployment of this option requires no research or development," he says. "It could be deployed within a couple of weeks since it relies on standard blood-banking practices."

In this case, physicians would ask patients who recover from COVID-19 to donate their blood, from which sera would be isolated. After processing the serum and removing other toxins or trace illnesses, it can be injected into sick patients and those at risk of contracting the disease. The procedure for isolating serum or plasma is a long-established technology that can be performed using equipment normally found in hospitals and blood-banking facilities, and recent advances make it as safe as a blood transfusion, Casadevall says.

Experts around the U.S. are rushing to implement the treatment in several different areas, including New York City, Casadevall says. Doctors in Shanghai have already used the plasma therapy with newly infected coronavirus patients in China and have reported promising early results. Japan's largest drugmaker, Takeda Pharmaceuticals, has also begun testing the therapy.

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ORIGINAL: Kull

A treatment for the uninfected - not a vaccine but a procedure which could dramatically slow the spread of the disease - could be just weeks away:

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With a vaccine for COVID-19 still a long way from being realized, Johns Hopkins immunologist Arturo Casadevall is working to revive a century-old blood-derived treatment for use in the United States in hopes of slowing the spread of the disease.

With the right pieces in place, the treatment could be set up at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore within a matter of weeks, Casadevall says.

The technique uses antibodies from the blood plasma or serum of people who have recovered from COVID-19 infection to boost the immunity of newly infected patients and those at risk of contracting the disease. These antibodies contained in the blood's serum have the ability to bind to and neutralize SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. Casadevall—a Bloomberg Distinguished Professor of molecular microbiology and immunology and infectious diseases at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health and School of Medicine—published a paper on the proposal today in The Journal of Clinical Investigation.

"Deployment of this option requires no research or development," he says. "It could be deployed within a couple of weeks since it relies on standard blood-banking practices."

In this case, physicians would ask patients who recover from COVID-19 to donate their blood, from which sera would be isolated. After processing the serum and removing other toxins or trace illnesses, it can be injected into sick patients and those at risk of contracting the disease. The procedure for isolating serum or plasma is a long-established technology that can be performed using equipment normally found in hospitals and blood-banking facilities, and recent advances make it as safe as a blood transfusion, Casadevall says.

Experts around the U.S. are rushing to implement the treatment in several different areas, including New York City, Casadevall says. Doctors in Shanghai have already used the plasma therapy with newly infected coronavirus patients in China and have reported promising early results. Japan's largest drugmaker, Takeda Pharmaceuticals, has also begun testing the therapy.

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ORIGINAL: obvert

This has been done already in China. One female doctor who recovered donated her plasma for this cause.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/13/world/asia/coronavirus-death-life.html

The Chinese government has urged recovered patients to donate plasma, which experts say contains antibodies that could be used to treat the sick. Ms. Deng contacted a local blood bank soon after getting home.

She plans to go back to work as soon as the hospital allows it.

“It was the nation that saved me,” she said. “And I think I can pay it back to the nation.”

It seems they've been doing this since early February treat some patients at least.

https://time.com/5784286/covid-19-china-plasma-treatment/

China National Biotec Group Co. has been using this plasma, which contains highly potent antibodies, to treat more than 10 seriously ill patients since Feb. 8, the company said in an statement on its official WeChat account Thursday night. It claimed that those receiving the treatment improved within 24 hours, with reduced inflammation and viral loads along with better oxygen levels in the blood.

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ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury

the end of the good times for pandemia profiteers:

amazon cracking on Corona virus price gouging

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/14/technology/coronavirus-purell-wipes-amazon-sellers.html

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ORIGINAL: Kull

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ORIGINAL: obvert

This has been done already in China. One female doctor who recovered donated her plasma for this cause.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/13/world/asia/coronavirus-death-life.html

The Chinese government has urged recovered patients to donate plasma, which experts say contains antibodies that could be used to treat the sick. Ms. Deng contacted a local blood bank soon after getting home.

She plans to go back to work as soon as the hospital allows it.

“It was the nation that saved me,” she said. “And I think I can pay it back to the nation.”

It seems they've been doing this since early February treat some patients at least.

https://time.com/5784286/covid-19-china-plasma-treatment/

China National Biotec Group Co. has been using this plasma, which contains highly potent antibodies, to treat more than 10 seriously ill patients since Feb. 8, the company said in an statement on its official WeChat account Thursday night. It claimed that those receiving the treatment improved within 24 hours, with reduced inflammation and viral loads along with better oxygen levels in the blood.

Which makes this even more encouraging. It's not a theory. It works!! And best of all, per the first story, none of this is "new technology". The hardware exists and the process exists.

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In this episode, Dr. Peter Hotez M.D., Ph.D., Dean for the National School of Tropical Medicine Baylor College of Medicine, shares his expertise on viral disease and how it applies specifically to the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) and the virus that causes it (SARS-CoV-2). Dr. Hotez informs us about the current state of disease progression, which has many unknowns, but has thus far been greatly determined by the delayed response time and lack of testing. Moreover, we discuss what we can do on a country, state, community, and individual level in order to collectively slow transmission of the disease. He shares with us a potential hope in convalescent plasma therapy and underscores the need for US federal involvement – particularly in the creation of a specialty task force to address areas of concern and unknowns.

Disclaimer: This is information accurate as of March 13, 2020, when it was recorded.

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ORIGINAL: witpqs

Chinese government knew about coronavirus one month earlier than it claimed: report

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Government documents seen by the South China Morning Post show the first reported case of COVID-19 surfaced on November 17. Scientists believe that a 55-year-old person from Hubei, a province in central China, could be "patient zero" though that has not yet been confirmed.

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Government documents seen by the South China Morning Post show the first reported case of COVID-19 surfaced on November 17. Scientists believe that a 55-year-old person from Hubei, a province in central China, could be "patient zero" though that has not yet been confirmed.

Of the first nine cases to be reported in November -- four men and five women -- none have turned out to be "patient zero," a term used to refer to the person identified as the first carrier of a communicable disease.

Each day after November 17, one to five new cases were reported, and by December 15, the number of infections had grown to 27. Five days later, the number reached 60, the SCMP said.

On December 27, Zhang Jixian, a Chinese doctor from Hubei Provincial Hospital of Integrated Chinese and Western Medicine, told health authorities that the peculiar pneumonia-like illness infecting people was actually caused by a new coronavirus. Three days later, the number of confirmed cases had jumped to 266. Twenty-four hours later, the number spiked to 381.

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As late as January 11, Wuhan’s health authorities were still claiming there were just 41 confirmed cases.

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ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury

the end of the good times for pandemia profiteers:

amazon cracking on Corona virus price gouging

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/14/technology/coronavirus-purell-wipes-amazon-sellers.html

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

I presume that figure is worldwide. I am sure a lot of second and third world nations are just starting to get the capacity to test and know their numbers. Heaven knows how many may try and hide or downplay their numbers to encourage tourists to visit. During my 10 days in Jamaica there was no information on COVID-19 in that nation, although cruise ships were visiting and a steady stream of aircraft brought in visitors from many nations. I returned Feb. 27th when western governments were just starting to take major measures to find and isolate cases.

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ORIGINAL: Kull
9-12 month shutdowns are not something that ANY business can sustain. I can't see any bar or restaurant businesses surviving, the cruise industry is gone, for-profit airlines will be a thing of the past, brick-and-mortar schools will be relics, the list goes on and on. What are all those workers going to do in the interim? How does society handle the long-term loss of a system which uses schools largely as daycare centers for kids so that parents can leave the house and hold jobs? The "law of unintended consequences" is going to play out in a big way here, and many of them are going to major and devastating.

Erik Rutins
CEO, Matrix Games LLC



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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe
I would also like to point out that the Corona virus 19 appears to latch onto something on the human cell called ACE. Another treatment that is being tried is to flood the body with extra ACE so the virus latches onto that and then can't infect a cell. Whether or not this is the same ACE where some people with heart disease takes ACE inhibitors, I don't know.

Erik Rutins
CEO, Matrix Games LLC



For official support, please use our Help Desk: http://www.matrixgames.com/helpdesk/

Freedom is not Free.

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ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe
I would also like to point out that the Corona virus 19 appears to latch onto something on the human cell called ACE. Another treatment that is being tried is to flood the body with extra ACE so the virus latches onto that and then can't infect a cell. Whether or not this is the same ACE where some people with heart disease takes ACE inhibitors, I don't know.

If you're interested, this goes into detail on some of that:

http://www.nephjc.com/news/covidace2

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

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ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury

the end of the good times for pandemia profiteers:

amazon cracking on Corona virus price gouging

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/14/technology/coronavirus-purell-wipes-amazon-sellers.html

Amazon cracks down on Canadian coronavirus price-gouging couple

https://www.foxnews.com/world/amazon-cracks-down-canadian-coronavirus-price-gougers

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ORIGINAL: Scott_USN

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

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ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury

the end of the good times for pandemia profiteers:

amazon cracking on Corona virus price gouging

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/14/technology/coronavirus-purell-wipes-amazon-sellers.html

Amazon cracks down on Canadian coronavirus price-gouging couple

https://www.foxnews.com/world/amazon-cracks-down-canadian-coronavirus-price-gougers

I am surprised someone has not started selling a "Cure". 80 bucks for 4 tubes of wipes? I have bleach under the counter and gallon of vinegar, not sure if vinegar would kill it though, it will kill influenza.