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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/2/2020 11:42:40 AM

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My DEATH CHART was posted for discussion of comparison. It's NOT my creation nor my beliefs.

Modern politics is for CHILDREN. I've got news for both sides - "America is over" been heading that way for awhile.

"In 2019, around 42.4 million pregnancies ended in abortion worldwide.

According to Worldometers, which tabulates global statistics on abortion procedures based on the most current available figures from the World Health Organization, 40 to 50 million abortions are performed annually worldwide."

45 million /3

The main point of posting that chart: YOU GONNA DIE

The behavior Ive seen in public from people is DISGUSTING. And what we are allowing fear to do.....

What's going gonna happen when CV19 sends us Turn2 in the fall.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/2/2020 11:44:21 AM

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/2/2020 11:44:43 AM

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mind_messing

Anecdote, the strongest of evidence.
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Looks nasty.

Still anecdotal.

All the savvy statistics swots should know: One example is bad statistics...

I am going to block you since you are an a$$ on just about every thing that you have posted here.

I think that I will start a Scotch joke thread. Maybe one about men who wear skirts . . .

I love scotch! Oh, wait, you're talking about people from the country of Scotland within the UK.

I think you mean Scottish.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/2/2020 11:46:26 AM

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Another repost.

A new graphic. This does show the very slight indication of cases beginning in a number of locations early, in mid-January, before testing ramped up. With all that we know now about mild and asymptomatic cases these indications of the presence of the disease point to much more extensive transmission early.

I don't like this representation much though, as it only focuses on new cases by chunks, not absolute numbers, and doesn't indicate totals. Looks pretty, doesn't hold up to grognard standards of granularity.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/2/2020 11:50:53 AM

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In reply to Ranger: Funny, your post was made while I was typing a PM to JohnD along the same lines. The heart of that message (leaving out my personal well wishes to him):

Given the long national discussion over health care and the role of government therein, I think you know that my comment was specifically in reference to that. While about half of Americans feel the way I do, the other half don't. But we know how the other side feels, so that we can discuss it in places like this without making a lot of qualifying statements. I didn't think it was necessary to qualify my statement but in hindsight I should have.

I think you know that I wasn't referring to emergency services, the military, and many other things the government can and must do and can only do. And I hope you know that all Americans support the national, state and emergency services of every kind. We're in this together and for now the debate isn't even over the role of government in health care. Until the virus is beat, we're all pulling for the folks fighting it.

+1

They are the front lines, we are the support people. If people would follow the suggestions made to slow this down, things will be much better. I am in the process of moving but without a vehicle it is tough so I have to go out. Paying rent for two apartments does not do my finances any good.

I saw a sign near a set of law enforcement classrooms at a local college "If you don't like the police, the next time you need help call a hippy." Or something to that effect.

Getting back to the corona virus thing, eat sensibly and use proper sanitary precautions. If you get sick, be selfish and do not share. Unlike a NY lawyer* that I read about who was sick and went to a party and gave at least 50 people this corona virus. In CT, a bunch of people attended a birthday party and 50 people or so got the corona virus. Locally, I know one person who has it who went out of state for something and came back with it. I think that it was a wedding. She is ill, her daughter and grand daughter are now quarantined.

*Nothing personal about lawyers. They should be intelligent but that does not mean that they can't do stupid things just like anybody else.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/2/2020 11:57:07 AM

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ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

My DEATH CHART was posted for discussion of comparison. It's NOT my creation nor my beliefs.

Modern politics is for CHILDREN. I've got news for both sides - "America is over" been heading that way for awhile.

"In 2019, around 42.4 million pregnancies ended in abortion worldwide.

According to Worldometers, which tabulates global statistics on abortion procedures based on the most current available figures from the World Health Organization, 40 to 50 million abortions are performed annually worldwide."

42.4 million /3

The main point of posting that chart: YOU GONNA DIE

The behavior Ive seen in public from people is DISGUSTING. And what we are allowing fear to do.....

What's going gonna happen when CV19 sends us Turn2 in the fall.

I completely get what you're trying to do, and I support that. I think adding abortion in just skews the dialogue away from what you're trying to do, which is talk about mortality rates for various other endpoints of life.

Here are some other examples:

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/2/2020 12:01:06 PM

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obvert thanks, I was looking for more comprehensive charts. The one I used yesterday was because of time limits. I had a chainsaw to fix.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/2/2020 12:01:08 PM

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Hope all is still well with you and yours RFalvo. I hope the last couple of pages of arguments are not too frustrating to you still living in the epicenter of this. I'm as guilty as anyone in terms of derailing this thread off of it's correct purpose.

We are fine, thanks. What scares me, however, is the number of high-profile people who got the virus (Albert of Monaco, Boris Johnson, Prince Charles of England...) One would assume that these people (exp. a PM) would enjoy an extra-layer of protection, with all the conceivable measures put in place to avoid a possible contagion (a sort of "Antiviral Secret Service") - and still they got it. What does this tell to us peons who have to provide for ourselves?

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Do you think the recent Italian numbers are as encouraging as they look from an outsider's perspective? In particular that so far there hasn't been the mushrooming of cases and deaths that we might have feared as the virus reached southern Italy?

This question actually points to a problem I'm seeing in this thread: the attempt to reduce this colossal emergency to "numbers", with no regard for the social and psychological impact in the various countries.

Yes, latest news are encouraging - if you only watch the statistics (*). But what about social disruption? Possible food shortages? "Stress tiredness" that leads to mistakes in the mandatory emergency routines? Will we be able to sustain the population and avoid a revolt during the time necessary for this emergency to pass? Because "flattening the curve" in meaningless if your population is assaulting supermarkets, trucks that carry food and other goods, and closed shops.

All these problems are compounded by the stressful situation we are in 24/7, a kind of unavoidable anxiety which is already leading to an increase of alcohol and drugs abuse, depression, bulimia, lack of physical exercise and cabin fever. Then the usual Spring allergies will arrive, with you sneezing and coughing due to pollen or hay fever - but also with the people around you treating you as a human bio-bomb.

All of the above with no real end in sight.

Even happier news are the PTSD that will hit the whole World when all of this will be over. Don't fool yourself in thinking otherwise: we will be all suffering from PTSD (**). Doctors and nurses will be the hardest hit, then the Police/Army, politicians (no matter what your opinion is about them and what they are doing, a large number is sleeping for three hours/day while taking decisions that will affect tens of millions of people), and then us.

And of this will happen while we all are facing the biggest economic downturn since the Great Depression.

I don't want to sound like a Doom Prophet. I can only point how debates about these very real problems are close to zero - if compared with the number of charts we are seeing in the Coronavirus debate.

So, yes, the numbers are encouraging. All the rest isn't.

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Sadly in London it looks like we are going to go through something similar to what you have been experiencing - I am hopeful that with a couple more weeks of notice we might have been able to take a few more steps towards providing more 'ad hoc' critical care beds but I think that that advantage will be counterbalanced by the 'running on fumes' state the NHS has been in coming into this situation.

My younger daughter lives in London sharing a flat with a friend, and she lost her job. I sent her money, but she says that she would be happier just to be here in Lombardy. I understand your concerns.

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All the best to you and your family

Thanks! To yours too

(*) Analysing how things are going is useful and informative. But sometimes I wonder if all of this obsession about data statistics is a way to psychologically distance yourself from the virus, its implications and the possibility to be infected - by reducing it to numbers. An illusion of control.

(**) As it is already happening in China.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/2/2020 12:02:39 PM

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A REPOST of mine

On American healthcare: the fact that we will have more deaths from CV!9 because our "higher standard" of living has allowed unhealthy people to..... mmmmm... thrive. ????

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/2/2020 12:09:14 PM

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I will say this started out as very informative.

I will say that there is still informative material being presented.

I will also say that the bull manure now greatly outweighs the informative material.

Durned Wolf: I apologize for seeming to imply that California is not the most perfect and well run state in the Union. Having lived there for several years in the scenic and lush town of Trona certainly gives me no right to say anything about California.

Mind Messing - green buttoned. I have never done that to anyone but you are simply an ass. It is a shame that your comments will be quoted by some and therefore still visible.

Yes, I never post much. It has never really been worth the effort.

CanoeRebel - sorry your effort to have a sane place to post about this crisis has now become a crisis in itself. Such is the nature of state of the rabble of humanity.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/2/2020 12:09:28 PM

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This map is now interactive! It shows a rollover of the name of each county, number positive, and number/1,000 in that county. Very useful, I think.

I scrolled over one of the least densely populated areas I know of in the US, the SE corner of OR, in Malheur county. Even they have one case. This is the kind of territory that has signs when you leave a town (usually consisting of 5-10 buildings) that tell you how far it is to the next gas station.

I once got stuck out there with a 69 Buick in the ditch thanks to a herd of Black Angus cows crossing the road at dusk. Didn't hit any, and the car was so durably built it had only some cosmetic damage. Some BLM guys drove by and stopped, used the winch to pull it out. If not for them I could have been sleeping in it that night.

Anyway, check out the link and your local county if you're in the states. Wish there was one like this of the UK.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html?action=click&module=RelatedLinks&pgtype=Article

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/2/2020 12:13:12 PM

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ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

obvert thanks, I was looking for more comprehensive charts. The one I used yesterday was because of time limits. I had a chainsaw to fix.

Hope you got it working.

I'm on my way out to dig some new post-holes for my shed extension. Gotta take advantage of nap time around here or I can't get anything done.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/2/2020 12:13:27 PM

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The Department of Justice is remaining vigilant in detecting, investigating, and prosecuting wrongdoing related to the crisis. In a memo to U.S. Attorneys, Attorney General Barr said, "The pandemic is dangerous enough without wrongdoers seeking to profit from public panic and this sort of conduct cannot be tolerated."

https://www.justice.gov/coronavirus

If you think you are a victim of a scam or attempted fraud involving COVID-19, you can report it without leaving your home though a number of platforms. Go to:

Contact the National Center for Disaster Fraud Hotline at 866-720-5721 or via email at disaster@leo.gov
Report it to the FBI at tips.fbi.gov
If it's a cyber scam, submit your complaint through https://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

If you have information on hoarding or price gouging of critical supplies, you can report it without leaving your home to the National Center for Disaster Fraud by calling the National Hotline at (866) 720-5721 or by e-mailing disaster@leo.gov.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/2/2020 12:17:31 PM

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obvert thanks, I was looking for more comprehensive charts. The one I used yesterday was because of time limits. I had a chainsaw to fix.

Hope you got it working.

I'm on my way out to dig some new post-holes for my shed extension. Gotta take advantage of nap time around here or I can't get anything done.

Yep, it's running now. Have a good day digging!

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/2/2020 12:24:32 PM

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My county is still Cases:1

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/2/2020 12:26:27 PM

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Two weeks ago, I posted "as goes Italy, so goes the world." A week ago, I added, "As goes NYC, so goes the USA."

I hope JohnD might update how the fight is going in NYC. Last week, he offered some hope that the numbers might be turning. I hope that's still the case. I know mortality peak lags behind active cases peak, but it's hard to get through all the chaff at the underlying numbers.

Regarding Italy, there's little doubt the curves in both categories have flattened, though the numbers remain stubbornly high.

That same trend will likely hold true in the US, when the time comes for flattening. In many/most places we may flatten the curve significantly but at the cost of lengthening the x-axis (an outcome many charts showed a few weeks ago, some of them posted in here). This was nevertheless our best option in fighting this given what we know and the possibility/likelihood that with additional time we'll be better able to go into Round 2, if there is one.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/2/2020 12:26:44 PM

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Coronavirus Live Updates: Economic Picture Darkens as Detected Infections Approach One Million
2AP20

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/world/coronavirus-news.html

"Whole sectors of the economy have been battered, and millions of people have lost their jobs. There is no precedent for the current fiscal challenge, and economic forecasts increasingly pointed to a deeper and longer lasting slump than previously imagined."

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/2/2020 12:27:31 PM

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The government is inefficient and cumbersome

Perhaps, but I don't see anybody else stepping up today. Folks seem pretty happy that me and my daughter (Veterans Administration)are putting on our PPE and putting ourselves in high risk areas to keep the world running. Not to mention my other daughter (pharmacy tech in a town with 800 cases). I personally played a major role in the construction in the largest 911 call taking and dispatch center in the world. And it is preforming magnificently although we are starting to run out of healthy folks to man it. Yes, I'm inefficient and cumbersome but if me and my coworkerks don't show up in NYC and other places this morning what do we have? I'm from the government. I'm here to help. There will be tens of thousands of 911 calls today and many of those calls are from people having the worst, and perhaps last, days of their lives. And someone, from the government, will show up to help. Not a lot of those folks are looking to shrink government to a size you could drown in a bathtub. I don�t see anyone from private industry showing up to take my place on the line today.

Not the time to blast government, John. I absolutely agree. Of course, the Mayor is not wasting any time blasting the Federales, is he? Arguably, supermarket workers ARE on the front lines. Ditto medical and even pharmacy staffs...etc. etc. In a public health emergency you need government. It's analogous to Chicom landing craft dropping their ramps on Long Island.

Hope you are well.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/2/2020 12:30:00 PM

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Experts tell White House coronavirus can spread through talking or even just breathing
Thu April 2, 2020

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/02/health/aerosol-coronavirus-spread-white-house-letter/index.html

"A prestigious scientific panel told the White House Wednesday night that research shows coronavirus can be spread not just by sneezes or coughs, but also just by talking, or possibly even just breathing.
"While the current [coronavirus] specific research is limited, the results of available studies are consistent with aerosolization of virus from normal breathing," according to the letter, written by Dr. Harvey Fineberg, chairman of a committee with the National Academy of Sciences.
Fineberg told CNN that he will wear start wearing a mask when he goes to the grocery story."

grocery story????????????????????

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/2/2020 12:31:49 PM

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I did get one interesting number from an ER nurse in NJ. 85% of the cases that go on vents do not survive. Now that might be because the ERs are only taking the worst cases right now. Also, NYC EMS is no longer transporting cardiac cases without a pulse. You will see it reported as �no longer taking cardiac cases�. Not exactly true. If you have a pulse or they can get one back to you your are going to get a ride

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/2/2020 12:34:29 PM

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Why is New Orleans' Coronavirus death rate 7 times New York's? Obesity is a factor
April 2, 2020

https://www.thejakartapost.com/life/2020/04/02/why-is-new-orleans-coronavirus-death-rate-7-times-new-yorks-obesity-is-a-factor.html

"The coronavirus has been a far deadlier threat in New Orleans than the rest of the United States, with a per-capita death rate much higher than in New York City. Doctors, public health officials and available data say the Big Easy's high levels of obesity and related ailments may be part of the problem."

"The prevalence of obesity, diabetes, hypertension and heart disease in New Orleans and Louisiana plays into that, she said."

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/2/2020 12:35:54 PM

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"Some 97% of those killed by COVID-19 in Louisiana had a preexisting condition, according to the state health department. Diabetes was seen in 40% of the deaths, obesity in 25%, chronic kidney disease in 23% and cardiac problems in 21%."

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/2/2020 12:36:55 PM

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ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

My DEATH CHART was posted for discussion of comparison. It's NOT my creation nor my beliefs.

Modern politics is for CHILDREN. I've got news for both sides - "America is over" been heading that way for awhile.

"In 2019, around 42.4 million pregnancies ended in abortion worldwide.

According to Worldometers, which tabulates global statistics on abortion procedures based on the most current available figures from the World Health Organization, 40 to 50 million abortions are performed annually worldwide."

45 million /3

The main point of posting that chart: YOU GONNA DIE

The behavior Ive seen in public from people is DISGUSTING. And what we are allowing fear to do.....

What's going gonna happen when CV19 sends us Turn2 in the fall.

It puts things in perspective.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/2/2020 12:39:38 PM

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Yes, please keep posting about abortions. We haven't discussed that enough, have we?

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/2/2020 12:42:13 PM

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�The ability to observe without evaluating is the highest form of intelligence�, - Jiddu Krishnamurti. Indian philosopher

Militarily this keeps things clear, until a decision is needed.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/2/2020 12:42:35 PM

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�Viruses are themselves an enigma that exist on the edges of life. They are not simply small bacteria. Bacteria consist of only one cell, but they are fully alive. Each has a metabolism, requires food, produces waste, and reproduces by division.
Viruses do not eat or burn oxygen for energy. They do not engage in any process that could be considered metabolic. They do not produce waste. They do not have sex. They make no side products, by accident or design. They do not even reproduce independently. They are less than a fully living organism but more than an inert collection of chemicals

�Whatever the origin, a virus has only one function: to replicate itself. But unlike other life forms (if a virus is considered a life form), a virus does not even do that itself. It invades cells that have energy and then, like some alien puppet master, it subverts them, takes them over, forces them to make thousands, and in some cases hundreds of thousands, of new viruses. The power to do this lies in their genes.�

�Whenever an organism reproduces, its genes try to make exact copies of themselves. But sometimes mistakes (mutations) occur in this process.
This is true whether the genes belong to people, plants, or viruses. The more advanced the organism, however, the more mechanisms exist to prevent mutations. A person mutates at a much slower rate than bacteria, bacteria mutates at a much slower rate than a virus - and a DNA virus mutates at a much slower rate than an RNA virus.
DNA has a kind of built-in proofreading mechanism to cut down on copying mistakes. RNA has no proofreading mechanism whatsoever, no way to protect against mutation. So viruses that use RNA to carry their genetic information mutate much faster (from 10,000 to 1 million times faster) than any DNA virus.
Different RNA viruses mutate at different rates as well. A few mutate so rapidly that virologists consider them not so much a population of copies of the same virus as what they call a 'quasi species' or a 'mutant swarm.�

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/2/2020 12:47:59 PM

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Virus: Knock, Knock

Cell membrane:"Who's there?"

Virus: "mRNA"

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/2/2020 12:48:39 PM

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Falvo said:

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Even happier news are the PTSD that will hit the whole World when all of this will be over. Don't fool yourself in thinking otherwise: we will be all suffering from PTSD (**). Doctors and nurses will be the hardest hit, then the Police/Army, politicians (no matter what your opinion is about them and what they are doing, a large number is sleeping for three hours/day while taking decisions that will affect tens of millions of people), and then us.

Man, did you nail that. Imagine all the decisions to let people die for lack of ventilators. All the family members who can't be with their sick loved ones. It's a freaking nightmare. I am not sleeping well and we are not in the worst of it by any means here. At the hospital Monday the Ob Nurse Practitioner gave me s*** for wearing fresh gloves to type on the common keyboard that 500 people use a day. "I'm getting tired of YOU DOCTORS not taking your gloves off after going into patient rooms". I wanted, literally, to kill her. I chanted silently to myself..."hare krishna, hare hare, hare lama" then I couldn't remember the next part but the murderous rage was subsiding.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/2/2020 1:03:58 PM

MakeeLearn

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A Million N95 Masks Are Coming From China---on the Patriots' Plane
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/a-million-n95-masks-are-coming-from-china-on-the-patriots-plane/ar-BB1242KH?li=BBnb7Kz

"At 3:38 a.m. Wednesday morning, the New England Patriots� team plane departed from an unusual locale: Shenzhen, China. On board the Boeing 767, in the cargo hold that used to be home to Tom Brady�s duffel bags, were 1.2 million N95 masks bound for the U.S."

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/2/2020 1:04:14 PM

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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Falvo said:
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Even happier news are the PTSD that will hit the whole World when all of this will be over. Don't fool yourself in thinking otherwise: we will be all suffering from PTSD (**). Doctors and nurses will be the hardest hit, then the Police/Army, politicians (no matter what your opinion is about them and what they are doing, a large number is sleeping for three hours/day while taking decisions that will affect tens of millions of people), and then us.

Man, did you nail that. Imagine all the decisions to let people die for lack of ventilators. All the family members who can't be with their sick loved ones. It's a freaking nightmare. I am not sleeping well and we are not in the worst of it by any means here. At the hospital Monday the Ob Nurse Practitioner gave me s*** for wearing fresh gloves to type on the common keyboard that 500 people use a day. "I'm getting tired of YOU DOCTORS not taking your gloves off after going into patient rooms". I wanted, literally, to kill her. I chanted silently to myself..."hare krishna, hare hare, hare lama" then I couldn't remember the next part but the murderous rage was subsiding.

Stress - the inability to choke the **** out of someone who so desperately needs it.

You should have informed her "I just put a fresh pair of gloves on so I would not possibly transmit the corona virus so YOU would not get it."

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