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Can't Invade Norway - 4/2/2020 7:34:51 PM   
abchambe


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Status: offline 		Currently playing 1.06. I played WarPlan upon initial release and had no issues with performing invasions at that time.

I am trying to invade Norway and am not successful. I have declared war on Norway, sailed a naval covering force and an embarked 10 strength Inf Corp to the hex SW of Oslo, which is in clear weather. I click on the transport icon to disembark the unit, and the following message pops up:


No selectable units to invade or disembark. Can’t partisan or in garrison status.
Land units can’t invade.
Lack of landing craft, is a partisan, or is in garrison status.


I do have 10 landing craft available which should be adequate to load my 10 strength Infantry. I double checked and the Inf Corp was not in garrison status when I embarked it. As this did not work, I reloaded the turn, and tried the same thing with a 3 strength Inf Div in Denmark, and had the same message come up.

I also watched a Youtube Invasion of Norway video online, and I am doing exactly what was done on the video to successfully invade Norway. According to the recent Invasion Guide posted on the forum, I appear to be doing everything correctly.

I have seen references to a similar problem and message on the Steam discussion forum, but there appears to be no response to what the problem is, except for a reference to the Invasion Guide, which I am following.

What has changed in v 1.06, and how do I resolve this problem?



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RE: Can't Invade Norway - 4/2/2020 8:16:39 PM   
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#1 DOW on Norway.
#2 load division
#3 move with to the hex SW of Norway
#4 toggle the hex icon with the landing craft which is the same button you used to embark the unit.
#5 right click the red lit hex I want to invade
#6 celebrate with German beer






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RE: Can't Invade Norway - 4/2/2020 8:17:28 PM   
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RE: Can't Invade Norway - 4/2/2020 9:03:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		I did look at the Invasion Guide.

Tried a few more times just now. I still get this message (that I don't understand) when I try to invade with the 10 strength Inf Corp. However, I was able to invade today with the Inf Div, BUT I do know that I tried the same sequence of events yesterday with the Inf Div, and I was getting the same error. I cannot explain why it is working now, but it did not work yesterday, making this very difficult for you to diagnose. I do have IT coding job experience, as well as experience beta testing SC3 and other wargames, so I cannot explain what the difference is between when I did this yesterday, and what I did just now.

I will state that I am not the only one who seems to have seen this message "No selectable units to invade..." as there are references to this in the Steam WarPlan forum.

To clarify Alvaro, I was getting the message at the end of step #4, and I did not get a red lit hex to select in step #5.

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RE: Can't Invade Norway - 4/3/2020 12:24:12 AM   
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One has to know that when the invasion hex turns red-orange (easy to miss!!), one has to, I believe, right-click to disembark.
I saw one YouTuber playing War Plan who was totally frustrated because he was trying to left-click the invading unit in!
Clarification should be made as to specific weather conditions that allow or disallow an invasion, and of course, there should be a pop-up reminder to declare war(!), so one doesn't smash one's computer screen in frustration.

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RE: Can't Invade Norway - 4/3/2020 12:27:56 AM   
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RE: Can't Invade Norway - 4/3/2020 12:28:32 AM   
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RE: Can't Invade Norway - 4/3/2020 8:19:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: RPKUPK

there should be a pop-up reminder to declare war(!), so one doesn't smash one's computer screen in frustration.


+1


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RE: Can't Invade Norway - 4/3/2020 11:52:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Alvaro Sousa

#6 celebrate with German beer


I can't find the button either in the interface or in the manual.

Another bug for Friday?


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RE: Can't Invade Norway - 4/3/2020 1:31:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		I again had some difficulty with invasion
My 'Mediterranean strategy' playing 'Europe Italian Option:' for whatever reason after losing their air unit to Axis bombing of Malta, the British decided to evacuate or disband their ground garrison leaving the island open. I moved a German division unit to the Malta invasion hex along with two Italian naval units. I was unable to disembark to invade. When I moved away the two Italian protective naval escorts leaving only the transport waiting to disembark, I was able to disembark and invade.
To invade, do both ground unit and naval units need be from the same country?(!) What gives?

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RE: Can't Invade Norway - 4/3/2020 10:32:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Alvaro Sousa

I did this 1st turn of the game.

#1 DOW on Norway.
#2 load division
#3 move with to the hex SW of Norway
#4 toggle the hex icon with the landing craft which is the same button you used to embark the unit.
#5 right click the red lit hex I want to invade
#6 celebrate with German beer


To my amazement, I managed to replicate steps 1-5 and if I can, anyone can. No #6 tho' as I hate beer as much as I do partisan units.............

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RE: Can't Invade Norway - 4/4/2020 2:55:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: RPKUPK

I again had some difficulty with invasion
My 'Mediterranean strategy' playing 'Europe Italian Option:' for whatever reason after losing their air unit to Axis bombing of Malta, the British decided to evacuate or disband their ground garrison leaving the island open. I moved a German division unit to the Malta invasion hex along with two Italian naval units. I was unable to disembark to invade. When I moved away the two Italian protective naval escorts leaving only the transport waiting to disembark, I was able to disembark and invade.
To invade, do both ground unit and naval units need be from the same country?(!) What gives?


I'll take a look at this.

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RE: Can't Invade Norway - 4/17/2020 11:42:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've followed all steps and when I click on the invade mode button no hexes are highlighted for selection. It' a division and there are 10 landing ships available.

I've declare war on Norway.

May it be because of rain?

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RE: Can't Invade Norway - 4/17/2020 11:44:07 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Stego

I've followed all steps and when I click on the invade mode button no hexes are highlighted for selection. It' a division and there are 10 landing ships available.

I've declare war on Norway.

May it be because of rain?


It indeed depends on season. What is the actual month in your game?

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RE: Can't Invade Norway - 4/17/2020 1:05:10 PM   
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RE: Can't Invade Norway - 4/17/2020 1:38:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well I discovered it. You invaded in what is considered a cold month which means you can't invade. I forgot to put in the weather icon for cold-rain which looks like the frozen sub but for rain. That's why.

The beta has that update.

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RE: Can't Invade Norway - 4/17/2020 3:18:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		i did the list for invading norway..I land a large corp and it took 30 landing craft. I couldnt land a 2nd corp as I had twenty landing craft. shouldnt it just take 10 landing craft to carry a 10 strength corp to land? please advise ..thanks

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RE: Can't Invade Norway - 4/17/2020 4:51:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		No because a corps is more than it's combat strength. If I remember of a 20k corps only 3,000 men are actually the fighting soldiers in the front. The rest are support.

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RE: Can't Invade Norway - 4/17/2020 4:58:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		In the manual there's no reference to "cold months". Which are?

The information panel only indicates "Rain" for that hex, nothing about cold. It is not just the icon.

So USA can't invade North Africa in Nov 42?

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RE: Can't Invade Norway - 4/17/2020 6:54:23 PM   
dcinlassen

 

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Status: offline 		the window for production under landing ships states that one landing point can move one health point of a unit. where is the value for the health points located and is it different from the combat value on the unit counter?

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RE: Can't Invade Norway - 4/17/2020 7:42:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Stego

In the manual there's no reference to "cold months". Which are?

The information panel only indicates "Rain" for that hex, nothing about cold. It is not just the icon.

So USA can't invade North Africa in Nov 42?


page 47 of the 1.00.06 manual

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RE: Can't Invade Norway - 4/17/2020 7:49:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: dcinlassen

the window for production under landing ships states that one landing point can move one health point of a unit. where is the value for the health points located and is it different from the combat value on the unit counter?


That's a typo. Should be 1 landing craft for 1 strength, double for armor and mech.

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RE: Can't Invade Norway - 4/17/2020 7:51:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		i see no where in the manual where health points are mentioned, only in the production window..how do I predict how many landing craft a unit will need? something does not seem right here, it is very confusing

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RE: Can't Invade Norway - 4/17/2020 7:53:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		I stand corrected. Landing craft cost is per current strength point not maximum potential strength point. I was checking the code.

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RE: Can't Invade Norway - 4/17/2020 7:53:53 PM   
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RE: Can't Invade Norway - 4/18/2020 4:07:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Alvaro Sousa


page 47 of the 1.00.06 manual



OK, thanks. I was consulting the original manual.

What are the months when snow or blizzard are possible?

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RE: Can't Invade Norway - 4/18/2020 4:16:35 AM   
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RE: Can't Invade Norway - 4/18/2020 3:48:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		Doesn't work for me as well, inf unit refuses to unload when clicking on the beach hex; no error message as I have the 10 landing pts for my division; just naught happens when clicking. Weather is rainy...
Made me lose half of the KM, that's a real pain !

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RE: Can't Invade Norway - 4/18/2020 4:03:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm also having some problems with Norway, as a test, on September 1 1939, after declaring war on Norway, I embarked the German division on the North Sea coast, and moved it to just north of Bergen, on beach hex 151, 81. The transport has moved less than 24 hexes and has one operational point left. When I click on Show invasion/Disembark hexes, none are shown (see attached screenshot), yet I'm pretty sure I ought to be able to to invade the beach hex. I can reproduce this every time. I have no such problems if I try to invade hexes near to Stavanger or Oslo. I have 10 landing craft points available and weather is not cold. What is the problem here?

NB: this is with the latest beta version

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RE: Can't Invade Norway - 4/18/2020 4:52:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: OxfordGuy3

I'm also having some problems with Norway, as a test, on September 1 1939, after declaring war on Norway, I embarked the German division on the North Sea coast, and moved it to just north of Bergen, on beach hex 151, 81. The transport has moved less than 24 hexes and has one operational point left. When I click on Show invasion/Disembark hexes, none are shown (see attached screenshot), yet I'm pretty sure I ought to be able to to invade the beach hex. I can reproduce this every time. I have no such problems if I try to invade hexes near to Stavanger or Oslo. I have 10 landing craft points available and weather is not cold. What is the problem here?

NB: this is with the latest beta version


Got the same exact issue (my post above) but on official 1.06 ... thx for the screenshot, it's more visual :)
Anyway it's game breaking, how can one win a game without working invasions ?
And the UI for invasion is real bad and confusing, it'll be much clearer to declare invading land units first and highlight possible destinations ...

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