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BTS Play-Testing - 4/5/2020 10:33:07 PM

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Am opening this thread for the play-testers to be able to comment on for the newest version of BTS.

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 4/5/2020 10:52:45 PM

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Let me at it John....GP

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 4/5/2020 11:28:40 PM

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This is the message I sent our testers prior to Opening the thread:

Here are some of the pertinent questions:
1. Check all AIR ART both sides. I know we need Liz Art, A7M1, and A7M1a art. Look for more missing�
2. Check all NAVAL ART both sides.
3. Look at the starting locations for BOTH sides. There are massive changes from anything we�ve done before.
4. The Japanese Economy. Can really only check by running some turns.
5. Check Upgrades and Conversions for all ships.

This file is pretty much BTS Heavy. You will not see the Owari-Class BB or the Niitaka-Class CA.

Once you have looked around, lets try to pair off and run some turns. Would like to run at least two week�s worth to see if we have issues.

Do we want to start a new OPEN thread on the design side of the Forum? If so, we can Post our thoughts and issues there. I�ll keep notes and we can discuss any issues found.

LOTS MORE but let us get this rolling and see what we see.

Time for you boys to earn your keep. Go get �em!!!

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 4/5/2020 11:35:19 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: John 3rd

This is the message I sent our testers prior to Opening the thread:

Here are some of the pertinent questions:
1. Check all AIR ART both sides. I know we need Liz Art, A7M1, and A7M1a art. Look for more missing�
2. Check all NAVAL ART both sides.
3. Look at the starting locations for BOTH sides. There are massive changes from anything we�ve done before.
4. The Japanese Economy. Can really only check by running some turns.
5. Check Upgrades and Conversions for all ships.

This file is pretty much BTS Heavy. You will not see the Owari-Class BB or the Niitaka-Class CA.

Once you have looked around, lets try to pair off and run some turns. Would like to run at least two week�s worth to see if we have issues.

Do we want to start a new OPEN thread on the design side of the Forum? If so, we can Post our thoughts and issues there. I�ll keep notes and we can discuss any issues found.

LOTS MORE but let us get this rolling and see what we see.

Time for you boys to earn your keep. Go get �em!!!

Haven't received the email John....GP

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 4/5/2020 11:58:10 PM

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You should have...trying again...

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 4/6/2020 12:03:11 AM

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Check

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 4/6/2020 12:06:15 AM

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Great!

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 4/6/2020 12:25:02 AM

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I sent everything to Larry. Did you happen to create a wire chart for Airframe upgrades?....GP

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 4/6/2020 12:39:07 AM

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I found an Allied aircraft that doesn't have a location. Is that a game stopper?

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 4/6/2020 12:43:19 AM

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Here's another one:

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 4/6/2020 12:44:39 AM

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Here's a third one:

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 4/6/2020 3:17:50 AM

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Fantastic Larry. This is the EXACT sort of thing we are looking for.

Keep Posting and/or write down the unit numbers so I can go into the Master and fix it.

Kitakami is jumping on board to help as well.

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 4/6/2020 3:20:28 AM

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Had the question as to what version of BTS this is. The answer is BOTH. I've moved everything into the one scenario. We'll go thru and clean it up and then I'll differentiate it by which ships are active and which are not.

EX: If Yamato-Class and the Fuji-Class are present, it is BTS--Heavy. If Owari-Class BB and Niitaka-Class CA is present then we are in BTS--Lite. Make sense?

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 4/6/2020 3:21:19 AM

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Do you need more eyes on it? I have lots of time on my hands, retired more than a year ago and on lockdown for good while yet.

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 4/6/2020 3:24:31 AM

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Hey Sir. Appreciate the offer. PM me with your email and I can send the Folder.

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 4/6/2020 3:25:42 AM

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We plan to go thru the Mod looking for issues, do clean-up, and then split into Jap--Allied teams to run a good 12-30 days of game to see if things are working.

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 4/6/2020 3:59:15 AM

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Pm sent

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 4/6/2020 11:24:23 AM

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Good morning boys....GP

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 4/6/2020 12:18:42 PM

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OK, This maybe OK, but doesn't the A6M2 Zero have an upgrade path?....GP

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 4/6/2020 12:43:06 PM

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Type overlap....GP

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 4/6/2020 2:05:06 PM

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Morning Fellas.

I have added Nomad and Kitakami and they have files sent.

Since it is causing some confusion, I am thinking of separating the Master File into the BTS Lite and Heavy so one can load the differing Mods and see the unique ship builds. Will do that after we brave the wilds of shopping this morning.

There is no upgrade to the A6M2. It is what it is. Until one can bring in the A7M1 there are no options for the Japanese Carriers.

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 4/6/2020 3:06:25 PM

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Greets all, and honoured to be helping a bit with this.

Japanese IJN Planes:

- A6M2 upgrade points to 612, which is not defined. I think it should point to itself, 603.
- A6M2 Sen Baku upgrade points to 607, which is not defined. I think it should point to itself, 604.
- B5N2-C upgrades to the D4Y1-C... is that correct? Not saying no, just asking.
- F1M2 upgrades to the A6M2-N. Question: would the A6M2-N fit in the Japanese CAs? I am not sure, that is why I ask.

Will look at the IJA planes next.

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 4/6/2020 5:03:39 PM

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I thought that China was supposed to have some massive changes? They look about the same to me.

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 4/6/2020 5:26:46 PM

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There are 2 bases named Oro Bay 987 and 994 both in the same location.

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 4/6/2020 5:48:09 PM

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Japanese IJA Planes:

- Ki-61-Ib is available 10/43; Ki-61-Ic is available 9/43... is that correct?

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 4/6/2020 5:51:45 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Nomad

I thought that China was supposed to have some massive changes? They look about the same to me.

The files for china apparently got corrupted at one point prior to the playtest files being sent out, and was therefore not included in this test.

Anyway, regarding art, the following plane models are outright missing art:
Yasukuni
N1K4-J
All Japanese heavy bombers
J6M1, which is just the Navy Ki-83 as far as i can tell.

The B6N2a, B5N2-C, B7A3, C6N2 and D4Y5 all share bitmaps with prior models.

No allied Air Art is missing as far as i can tell. I'm going to check naval art later today.

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 4/6/2020 6:42:39 PM

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Am home and shall divide the Master File into BTSL and BTSH. This should alleviate concerns...

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 4/6/2020 6:54:37 PM

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Ships:
Chesapeake for some reason has both a size 6 floatplane and a size two floatplane unit on it. It has a maximum floatplane capacity of 6, so it cannot handle both units once they are filled out. The units in question are slot 2159 (size six) and 2522 (size two).

Endracht has no ship art. On the Japanese side, Niitaka, G.6 CVL, Fuji CB, Owari BB are missing art.

The slot numbers for the units that Larry previously found as having no locations are: 1859 (VF-32), 2301 (Royal Sov. floatplane), and 1860 (VT-32).
VF-103 [2248] and VB-103 [2249] starts off stationed on Tanger, which is an AV.

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 4/6/2020 7:01:14 PM

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bdt64 asked about a wire chart for airframe upgrades. I always make one when I start a new scenario as the Japanese... I would not be able to do much without it. Tried to upload it in this message, but it is too big a PDF. What should I do?

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 4/6/2020 7:45:00 PM

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bdt64 asked about a wire chart for airframe upgrades. I always make one when I start a new scenario as the Japanese... I would not be able to do much without it. Tried to upload it in this message, but it is too big a PDF. What should I do?

Do you have a Google Drive setup. You can upload to the Google drive and share it. Then copy and paste the link here. And thank you Kitakami for making one....GP

Oh, did you zip it up???

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