Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Wiggle, wiggle. Squirm, squirm.

As opposed to saying "wrong", which is a word of certitude, and then squiggling and worming?

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ORIGINAL: obvert

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Nah. It's a perfectly apt description of what's going on here.

I'll stop using it, though. The point's been made.

This is very juvenile. I feel like I'm in my HS freshman foundations course here.

You're being vague again. Say what you are implying and then someone can respond directly.

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Having said my piece, I'll move on from further media/education bias discussions. That is indeed best left to another thread or a beer together. Just don't take my silence as acquiescence.

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

State-level visualization of data.

https://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/

Note that if you highlight Georgia (apropos of CR's gut reaction claim that "the South has done well"), on the very bottom chart which is scaled by population size, you'll find that they're in the "bottom" 25. Louisiana is in the "bottom" 10.

Other Southern states in the bottom 25: Florida, Tennessee, and Mississippi.

The 25th "worst" state is New Hampshire.

So, Southern states not in the bottom 25, scaled to population on present day numbers (this dating is important, because if a state is a few days behind any of these "bottom 25" states in the count of days since passing 1 case/1M, they will not appear in the "bottom 25"):

Alabama (although their curve tracks with Tennessee's, they are about 3 days behind in the numbers)

North Carolina (8 days behind NH but many states under the TN curve and not on a trajectory to pass New Hampshire)

South Carolina (which has almost as many cases per MM as New Hampshire, but is 6 days behind the curve)

Texas (10 days behind NH and slightly above NC, may peak above NH)

West Virginia (OK, not technically "the south" but its politics are pretty similar; it is 16 days behind NH in reporting but only 5 days behind in number of cases/MM; will almost certainly pass NH)

Kentucky (7 days behind NH in reporting and right on the NH curve)




Basically, all of the Southern states are doing about as "well" as the median state (which is roughly NH).

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Here's one study on college faculty.

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Man! Juvenile. Sophomoric. Posturing. etc. etc. etc.

The level of antagonism here is just awesome.

Bear in mind, all the comments about current trends etc. have been properly qualified.

What was missing was any of that last week and earlier this week.

There is a double-standard, as Erik essentially acknowledge just above: "Err on the side of negative."

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Man! Juvenile. Sophomoric. Posturing. etc. etc. etc.

The level of antagonism here is just awesome.

Bear in mind, all the comments about current trends etc. have been properly qualified.

What was missing was any of that last week and earlier this week.

There is a double-standard, as Erik essentially acknowledge just above: "Err on the side of negative."

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Here's one study on college faculty.

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2017/02/27/research-confirms-professors-lean-left-questions-assumptions-about-what-means

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2017/02/27/research-confirms-professors-lean-left-questions-assumptions-about-what-means

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ORIGINAL: mind_messing

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Man! Juvenile. Sophomoric. Posturing. etc. etc. etc.

The level of antagonism here is just awesome.

Bear in mind, all the comments about current trends etc. have been properly qualified.

What was missing was any of that last week and earlier this week.

There is a double-standard, as Erik essentially acknowledge just above: "Err on the side of negative."

A comfort to see that you default to form with others, and I'm not special

Make an assertion, have it challenged with evidence, then attack the person and not the argument. Poor form!

Minor point, please try to post the study itself and not a news article on the study. Makes it easier to get to the good stuff.

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

This excerpt from the link provided by MM two posts above and here: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/322256559_How_Public_Confidence_in_Higher_Education_Varies_by_Social_Context

Consider the ratio established: 14:66. (and that 66 will actually bump up, as noted in that paragraph)

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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

17 year old comes in with a fever. Been to the skate park every day since school was canceled AND he went out on a date last night. Is that "social distancing"?

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ORIGINAL: Cad908

According to the U of Washington COVID-19 projection, Michigan, my home state, is today at its peak in projected deaths. Just for reference, here is a summary of the results to date in Michigan.

Just a couple of comments/observations:

The numbers are the official state totals. The reporting lags as Michigan has experienced erratic data flows from the county and hospital level. The use of "Confirmed Case" and "Reported Death" are subject to the same interpretation "bias" as has been discussed at length in this forum.

The regional differences are stark. The experience of S.E. Michigan (Metro Detroit) is tragic. 1 in 280 of its people have tested positive, while its 1 in 3,482 in Western Michigan (Grand Rapids-Kentwood-Muskegon). I do not know if the west side of the state will start to"catch up", but it is hard to imagine the economic, social, political, ect., ramifications of this disparity going forward. Michigan is not the only state which will have this COVID-19 legacy, and I am hopeful it brings out the "better angels of our nature". But the pragmatic side of my nature observes quicksand all around.

-Rob

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Rob,

Do you have any feel whether the lagging case reports are reflected in the U. Washington model/projection?

Attached is the U. Wash. projection for Michigan, as of today.

Pardon me if you're already 100x ahead of me on this, but my experience with the Wash. projections over the past week is that it predominantly overestimates mortality (sometimes considerably) and much more rarely underestimates (but not in my experience considerably). From what I've seen, I'd expect the model to incorporate lagging data and other things behind the curtain, so that the projections continue consistently. Or do you find something that leads you to believe U. Wash. projection will likely seriously underreport, as we'll see in coming days.

I'm anxious to know, because the site has a good record (from where I sit). If it is subject to mistakes, I'd want to know (and presumably they would too!).

Thanks for posting. Good luck to the Wolverine State.

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ORIGINAL: Cad908

According to the U of Washington COVID-19 projection, Michigan, my home state, is today at its peak in projected deaths. Just for reference, here is a summary of the results to date in Michigan.

Just a couple of comments/observations:

The numbers are the official state totals. The reporting lags as Michigan has experienced erratic data flows from the county and hospital level. The use of "Confirmed Case" and "Reported Death" are subject to the same interpretation "bias" as has been discussed at length in this forum.

The regional differences are stark. The experience of S.E. Michigan (Metro Detroit) is tragic. 1 in 280 of its people have tested positive, while its 1 in 3,482 in Western Michigan (Grand Rapids-Kentwood-Muskegon). I do not know if the west side of the state will start to"catch up", but it is hard to imagine the economic, social, political, ect., ramifications of this disparity going forward. Michigan is not the only state which will have this COVID-19 legacy, and I am hopeful it brings out the "better angels of our nature". But the pragmatic side of my nature observes quicksand all around.

-Rob

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ORIGINAL: witpqs

Good article.
The Trail Leading Back to the Wuhan Labs

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

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ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

"I think what we're going to have embedded and imprinted in us forever is the realization that something as catastrophic as what the world is experiencing now can happen," Fauci said.

WHAT THE #$@%. Have you ever read a history book?!


catastrophic????????????????? REALLY?


"embedded and imprinted" Now we are getting to the point!

The impacts are (relatively) catastrophic. When you're forced to choose between government spending at levels not seen since WW2 (would that classify as "catastrophic" to you?) so that people can feasibly practice social distancing (which is itself an extreme behavioral change) without starving to death, or door #2 with the realistic potential for a few million deaths (>0.5% of the population) over the course of a few months - those are catastrophic stakes. For reference, the total American dead in WW2 was just over 400,000 which was 0.32% of the total population.

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Pokeweed is edible if harvested early (sprouting) and properly prepared. When mature it's poisonous.

Granny Clampett was always talking about pokeweed. :)

(Phydolacca americana, from my memory store unaccessed on that name in twenty years or more).

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

You probably are well aware, but redbud (Cercis canadensis) is a member of the legume/pea family. You're right, the flowers taste just like peanuts.

Pokeweed will be available soon. :)

I despise the pokeweed plant. I'm trying to eradicate it on my property but without much success.