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RE: Folly Part Deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 - 4/11/2020 9:03:27 AM   
AllenK


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Status: offline 		Align with CW. 2 CP's and TERR to port in Belgium Congo. CAV to Liege. 2 x INF to Antwerp, thanks.

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RE: Folly Part Deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 - 4/11/2020 9:07:25 AM   
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Impulse: 11 (Axis)

Japan: Land
Germany: Land
Italy: Combined

Port Attack: None
Naval Air: None

Naval Movement: None

Strategic Bombing:
Japan

A NAV flies to Changsha. The throw was a 3 (no effect)




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RE: Folly Part Deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 - 4/11/2020 10:48:33 AM   
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Ground Strike:
Japan

A bomber attempts to hit the Chinese communists in the mountains

Germany

A Bomber flies to Antwerp for the same purpose (well not exactly the same as there are no Chinese communists in Antwerp). They try and hit Belgian troops instead.




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RE: Folly Part Deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 - 4/11/2020 10:57:30 AM   
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Impulse: 11 (Axis)

Rail Movement: None
Land Movement:
Italy

The Italians in East Africa are ordered to take a more defensive approach

Germany

The Germans set up to attack the units in Liege. The failed ground strikes makes an attack on Antwerp impossible.


Japan

The Japanese continue to manoeuvre against the communist forces.

Land Combat:
Germany

Two attacks are announced. An automatic vs Liege and against Warsaw which is +11. Which table do the Poles want to choose?




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RE: Folly Part Deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 - 4/11/2020 11:30:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		It'll have to be Assault as no retreat path.

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RE: Folly Part Deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 - 4/11/2020 11:35:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: AllenK

It'll have to be Assault as no retreat path.
warspite1

Sorry, until I understand the rule I will have to keep asking .

The land roll was a 15(23) and the two Polish units are destroyed.





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RE: Folly Part Deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 - 4/11/2020 11:39:11 AM   
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Impulse: 11 (Axis)

Rebase:
Germany

Two fighters are rebased to Belgium

Reorganisation: None


End of Turn: Turn Ends on Less than a 6 (a 1 is thrown).

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RE: Folly Part Deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 - 4/11/2020 11:43:00 AM   
warspite1


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Impulse: End of Turn Malarchy

Neutrality Pact:
2 x Defensive Chits please

Production Planning:

Germany

Oil situation:

2 x Oil from Romania (both saved in Berlin)
2 x Oil from USSR (both saved in Berlin)
1 x Oil from Austria (to production)
1 x Oil from Germany (to production)

3 Oil last turn so should be 7 (less what is used to reorganise)
16 Build Points (incl. 0 saved)

Italy

Oil Situation:

1 x Oil from Romania (to production)

1 Oil last turn so should be 1 (less what is used to reorganise)
3 Build Points (incl. 0 saved)

Japan

Oil Situation:

2 x Oil from the USA (both to production)
1 x Oil from the NEI (saved in Tokyo)
1 x Oil from the NEI (saved in Canton)

4 Oil last turn so should be 6 (less what is used to reorganise)
10 Build Points (incl. 0 saved)

Stay At Sea:
Japan

Convoys only

Italy

Convoys only

Germany

Convoys only

Return to Base:
Japan

N/a

Germany

N/a

Italy

N/a

Oil Reorganisation:
Japan

Reorganise all for 1.1 Oil (1 Oil expended) - use Canton if possible

Germany

Reorganise all for 2.0 Oil (2 Oil expended)

Italy

Reorganise n/a for 0.0 Oil (0 Oil expended)


Breakdown:
Japan

The black print 5-3 INF east of Tungkwan


Production:
Germany

Scrap the 3 x LND

1 x INF
1 x MIL
1 x FTR (3)
1 x LND (2)
3 x PIL

Italy

1 x Sub Construction
1 x PIL

Japan

1 x TERR
1 x MECH
1 x INF

Conquest:

NOTE A 1 is thrown for van Heemskerck so goes to the Allies.


Reinforcement:
Germany

Assign the He-112 Fighter
Aachen: 3-3 ART, He-112
Cologne: 6-3 INF, 2-5 ARM DIV

Italy

Assign the CR.42
Rome: CR.42
Genoa: 5-4 MOT

Japan

TERR: ?


Trade Agreement: None


Re-Roll if I have one
If I get the chance to move first I will.


MEMO ITEM:

Germany
Oil (5 x Berlin) = 5
Build Points (0)

Italy
Oil (1 x Milan) = 1
Build Point (0)

Japan
Oil (4 x Tokyo, 1 x Canton) = 5
Build Points (0)


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RE: Folly Part Deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 - 4/11/2020 12:08:41 PM   
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USSR puts chit to defence.

US puts chit into Ge/It.

The Japanese get hot under the collar when they hear of Allied plans to send resources to Japan (1 rolled. Chit to tension pool).


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RE: Folly Part Deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 - 4/11/2020 4:47:18 PM   
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The black print 5-3 INF east of Tungkwan


What did you want it broken down to? The two INF Divs?


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RE: Folly Part Deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 - 4/11/2020 5:02:40 PM   
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The black print 5-3 INF east of Tungkwan


What did you want it broken down to? The two INF Divs?


warspite1

Ohhh ohhh I don't know I had a choice. I saw a 2-3 INF and a 1-4? Anyway, whatever, yes - could I have two INF DIVs please?


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RE: Folly Part Deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 - 4/11/2020 5:44:23 PM   
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RE: Folly Part Deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 - 4/11/2020 5:53:48 PM   
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RE: Folly Part Deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 - 4/11/2020 6:16:45 PM   
AllenK


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CW: Various escorts stay out. BB , CV and CVL in East Med to Gib'. Biscay - Queens to Cape Town. TRANS and BB's to Plymouth.

France: TRANS in West Med to Tunis.

US: TRANS by Pearl back to San Diego.

Oil Use

CW reorgs all for 2 oils (1.7).

France reorgs all spending the oil at Bordeaux (0.7).

US reorgs all for 0 points (0.4).

No breakdowns.

Production

China 5 - INF, MIL

CW 10 - Scraps some Polish planes and CVP's. INF, FTR-2, Pilot x2, CVP-0 x2, Repair CA London.

France 4 - MIL x2

US 11 - AMPH 1st, CV 1st, INF Div, Piloy x2.

USSR 8 - MTN, Pilot x2.

Reinforcements

CW - MIL's to Brussels and Batavia. CP to Liverpool. BB Valiant to Plymouth. Pilots to Hurricane and Whitley (London) and Blenheim (Southampton).

France - MIL's to Dakar and Marseilles.

US - 3 CL's to San Diego.

USSR - MIL to Lanchow.

Trade Agreements

CW sends 1 oil and 2 resources to France. One oil is sent to China.

Initiative: Axis 7, Allies 5. No re-rolls for Allies, so Axis move first.

Weather a touch soggy in the north but probably not enough to put the Axis off their stride.




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RE: Folly Part Deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 - 4/11/2020 8:01:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1


quote:

ORIGINAL: AllenK

It'll have to be Assault as no retreat path.
warspite1

Sorry, until I understand the rule I will have to keep asking .

A unit can not retreat into an impassible hex, across an impassible hexside, onto an enemy unit, or into a vacant hex that has an enemy ZOC exerted into it.

Also, if it retreats into an overstack, it must continue retreating not into a hex it has retreated from. If there is no hex it can retreat to after a chain of retreats, it is destroyed.

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RE: Folly Part Deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 - 4/12/2020 9:12:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Courtenay


quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1


quote:

ORIGINAL: AllenK

It'll have to be Assault as no retreat path.
warspite1

Sorry, until I understand the rule I will have to keep asking .

A unit can not retreat into an impassible hex, across an impassible hexside, onto an enemy unit, or into a vacant hex that has an enemy ZOC exerted into it.

Also, if it retreats into an overstack, it must continue retreating not into a hex it has retreated from. If there is no hex it can retreat to after a chain of retreats, it is destroyed.
warspite1

Okay thanks the two bits in bold is what confused me. But I get it now. The overstack presumably can be any length but needs to end not in ZOC.


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RE: Folly Part Deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 - 4/12/2020 9:13:50 AM   
warspite1


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Impulse: 1 (Axis)

Declarations of War and Alignments: None

Japan: Combined
Germany: Land
Italy: Combined

Port Attack: None
Naval Air: None

Naval Movement:
Japan

Two TRS move to the South China Sea and pick up an ENG and an AT.

Strategic Bombing: None
Ground Strike: None

Rail Movement:
Germany

A 7-3 INF is railed to Karlsruhe, and an ART and an ENG to Dusseldorf.

Land Movement:
Japan

Two units continue their trek north from the south coast.

Germany

The Germans adjust positions in the west and set up for an attack against Brussels. In Poland the remaining units re-position themselves - some for transfer west and others to form the garrison.

Italy

One of the Italians in Somaliland moves out of the capital and heads southwest.

Debark
Japan

An ENG disembarks in Tsingtao

Land Combat:
Germany

One attack - against Brussels. It's a +21. The Germans bring in no ground support. The CW has 4 bombers, but no fighters that can reach. The Germans have 5 fighters that are available for counter-interception. What do the CW want to do?

Note: There is also a 3-factor fighter not shown that can reach.



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RE: Folly Part Deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 - 4/12/2020 10:32:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		A faint Everley Brothers-esque melody wafts through the air. It's the RAF pilots with the hit of the moment. "We'll do no flying in the rain".

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RE: Folly Part Deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 - 4/12/2020 10:48:50 AM   
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The attack on Brussels was automatic and I chose Assault so there is no breakthrough.

Rebase:
Germany

Two short-arsed stukas try and head back from Poland but barely get out of Pomerania....

Two fighters move to the new front-line.

Italy

Two fighters swap positions between Genoa and the south.

Japan

A bomber and NAV move closer to the front line

Reorganisation: None

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RE: Folly Part Deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 - 4/12/2020 1:50:30 PM   
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No DoW or alignments.

Land: France, China.
Combined: The rest.

CW sends 4 BB and CA to North Sea 3-box from Plymouth. Empty CVL from Gib' to Biscay 2-box.

US loads INF Div at San Diego onto CL and takes it to Midway.

MIL railed from Delhi to Calcutta.

No air missions.

USSR moves the Lanchow WLD slightly south.

Chinese forces post movement.




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RE: Folly Part Deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 - 4/12/2020 2:03:09 PM   
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RE: Folly Part Deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 - 4/12/2020 2:11:47 PM   
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France rebases CVP to Bordeaux and LND to Paris.

CW rebases Hampdens from Dover to Norwich and Hurricanes from London to Dover.

Weather turns a touch frosty.




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RE: Folly Part Deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 - 4/12/2020 5:36:07 PM   
warspite1


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Impulse: 5 (Axis)

Declarations of War and Alignments: None

Japan: Land
Germany: Land
Italy: Combined

Port Attack: None
Naval Air: None

Naval Movement: None

Strategic Bombing: None
Ground Strike: None

Rail Movement:
Germany

A MTN is railed to Munich
An INF DIV is railed to Saarbrucken

Japan

An SNLF is railed to Hangchow

Land Moves:
Japan

The Japanese continue west toward the communists. In the south they take a resource southwest of Kweilin

Germany

The Germans continue to move units between east and west - including one they forgot all about last impulse

Debark:
Japan

An AT lands in Shanghai

Land Combat: None

Rebase:
Germany

Two stukas re-base to Aachen

Reorganisation: None




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RE: Folly Part Deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 - 4/12/2020 6:24:24 PM   
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No DoW or alignments.

Land: China
Combined: All except
Pass: US

Naval Movement

CW sends 2 TRANS from Calais to North Sea 3-box. They pick up London MIL and MECH from Plymouth. Queens load SA TERR and take it to Singapore.

French TRANS sails from Tunis to Cape Verde 0-box and loads Dakar MIL.

CW sends Whitleys to bomb Hamburg but to no effect.




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RE: Folly Part Deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 - 4/12/2020 6:33:43 PM   
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RE: Folly Part Deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 - 4/12/2020 6:38:02 PM   
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RE: Folly Part Deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 - 4/12/2020 6:52:09 PM   
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Chinese rebase their FTR to Chungking.

No reorgs.

Turn continues on an 8 (less than 3 needed).

Weather clears up somewhat.




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RE: Folly Part Deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 - 4/12/2020 9:06:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1


quote:

ORIGINAL: Courtenay


quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1


quote:

ORIGINAL: AllenK

It'll have to be Assault as no retreat path.
warspite1

Sorry, until I understand the rule I will have to keep asking .

A unit can not retreat into an impassible hex, across an impassible hexside, onto an enemy unit, or into a vacant hex that has an enemy ZOC exerted into it.

Also, if it retreats into an overstack, it must continue retreating not into a hex it has retreated from. If there is no hex it can retreat to after a chain of retreats, it is destroyed.
warspite1

Okay thanks the two bits in bold is what confused me. But I get it now. The overstack presumably can be any length but needs to end not in ZOC.


Yes about the any length. It can only end in an enemy ZOC if there is a friendly unit there already. Can't go to a vacant hex in an enemy ZOC.

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RE: Folly Part Deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 - 4/13/2020 5:51:38 AM   
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Impulse: 11 (Axis)

Declarations of War and Alignments: None

Japan: Land
Germany: Combined
Italy: Combined

Port Attack: None
Naval Air: None

Naval Movement:
Germany

The Germans move two subs into the 2 and 3-box of the Faroes Gap

Axis - 6
Allies - 7

No combat

Strategic Bombing:
Germany

The Germans send three bombers to Lille (escorted by a 5-strength Bf-109), Metz and Lyons. Over Lille, the French have a 4-strength fighter with which to intercept and the Germans have a 4-strength fighter to counter. What do the French wish to do?




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RE: Folly Part Deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 - 4/13/2020 9:04:29 AM   
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