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RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and ... - 4/17/2020 12:44:23 PM

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The Soviet fighter is shot down, and the ATR is cleared.

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RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and ... - 4/17/2020 12:53:06 PM

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Will USSR include the notional, or not.

Edit: Hex 46,54 is the only Axis attack. Germany will be selecting combat table.

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RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and ... - 4/17/2020 1:00:13 PM

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Germany will add one LND 3 in ground support.

The Soviet Union has 3 bombers that can provide defensive ground support, and one fighter that can provide escort to the bombers.

Axis has two FTR2, and one FTR3, available for counter-interception.

Will USSR fly any air?

Picture from Sep/Oct '41 Impulse #7 (Axis) - Land Combat

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RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and ... - 4/17/2020 2:40:01 PM

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After much discussion on whatsapp about how nationals work and whether odds displayed are including +1 for notional it looks like Peter has sorted it out for us so thank you. :) I used to know these things but it's been too long since I resolved an MWIF combat with nationals that I had to think about very much.

His guess of how odds are working is:
Notional(55/12): 9,16 + 1 disorg, + 1 para -2 weather.
No notional(55/10): 11 + 1 para -2 weather

Given this understanding SU will choose to include the notional and fly I-153 and SB-2RK. Return I-153 to Smolensk and SB-2K to Gomel if they survive. If Allies get a result in A2A and Soviet bomber is still around choose result vs Axis FTR if only 1 FTR is in combat. If other situation Petteri or I can choose. Thanks.

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RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and ... - 4/17/2020 5:26:35 PM

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Germany adds one FTR2.

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RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and ... - 4/17/2020 5:31:09 PM

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Will USSR abort the bomber, or the fighter?

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RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and ... - 4/17/2020 5:57:14 PM

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fighter please. thanks.

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RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and ... - 4/17/2020 6:22:59 PM

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Final odds. Germany selects blitz.

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RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and ... - 4/17/2020 6:24:27 PM

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Forgot to post how the air combat ended. Germany aborted after the first round.

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RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and ... - 4/17/2020 6:32:12 PM

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Germany take the combat hex. No losses to either side.

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RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and ... - 4/17/2020 7:34:16 PM

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5 units are disorganized.

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RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and ... - 4/17/2020 7:35:09 PM

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Air Rebase:

Japan:
FTR2 (Shanghai) -> 71,153 (Korea)
NV2 (Sian) -> 76,135

Germany:
FTR2 (Kiev) -> 46,54
FTR 48,35->48,38
ATR SW Warsaw->SE Pskov

Italy:
LND3 (51,55) -> 47,52
KND3 (45,50) -> 52,56

Germany reorganize two MECH.

Picture from Sep/Oct '41 Impulse #7 (Axis) - Reorganization

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RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and ... - 4/17/2020 7:40:54 PM

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Turn continues on a roll of 9. (1 to end)

The weather turns fine.

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RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and ... - 4/18/2020 1:49:46 PM

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41 SO i9 (allied):
CW combined, SU land

Naval
CA with INF div from Liverpool to North Sea box 3.
AMPH, CV, all BBs from Plymouth to North Sea box 3 loading MAR.
US TRS San Diego -> Christmas Island embark NAV2

Strat bomb
2 LND4's raid Ploesti 14+1 roll a 1 and miss completely

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RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and ... - 4/18/2020 3:11:32 PM

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SO 41 i9 continued:

Rail
Tula fact -> Tiflis
Stalingrad MIL -> Smolensk
MIL Auckland -> Wellington

Land move
MIL in India 2 south
China reshuffle lines, move 2-2 Kunming MIL east out of remote mountains
SU pull Zhukov back from forest SE of Kiev, place strong defensive stack SE of Vitebsk, 5-4 into Swamp near Timoshenko

Intrepid CW MAR corp and DIV invade Frederikshavn. Will Italy use notional? There is a lot of shore bombardment avail so it seems yes? Also pick blitz or asslt if you are able to make that decision now. If not it can wait of course.

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RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and ... - 4/18/2020 3:54:06 PM

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Royal Marines manage to get ashore and stay ashore despite losses in tough fighting vs the Italian V Infantry corp.

Rebase
Longrange Spitfire to east coast of UK.
MIG-1 Kiev area to Smolensk area

Reorg
Yeremenko re-orgs 2 INF, 1 MIL near Vitebsk/Smolensk

Turn ends on a 1 roll with <4 or less chance. No partisans, U.S. picks chit v JP but doesn't play any options.

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RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and ... - 4/19/2020 1:27:57 PM

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Light losses for the turn.

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RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and ... - 4/19/2020 1:33:15 PM

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We have a serious bug here. Somehow, the CV Illustrious, though disorganized, managed to send its CVP to the North Sea last impulse. See picture above with the orange CVP1 with 3 in naval air. And that cause trouble with return to base with just one CVP alone at sea, even though it is listed as being aboard the carrier.

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RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and ... - 4/19/2020 1:34:42 PM

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And here is HMS Illustrious, disorganized, in port. Missing the offending CVP that was stacked on her at the beginning of last impulse. Note that the offending CVP is shown both at sea or in port.

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RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and ... - 4/21/2020 10:58:44 AM

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Axis end of turn:

Preliminary planning:
Germany - 30 production points - 30 BPs.
Italy - 11 production points - 11 BPs. Save oil in Turin, and Milan.
Japan - 16 production points - 16 BPs.
Vichy France - 3 production points - 16 BPs. (plus 3 saved BPs on the map)

Stay at sea:
The following units stay at sea.

Germany:
East Med: CP
Baltic Sea: 4 x CPs.

All 4 Vichy CPs stay at sea.

Italy:
Italian Coast: CP

Japan:
Japanese Coast: 2 x CP
China Sea: 9 x CP
South China Sea: 4 x CP
Bismarck Sea: CP

Return to Base:

Germany:
Faeroes Gap: 2 x SUB -> Brest
Baltic Sea: FTR2 -> 44.38 (NW Copenhagen); 2 x BB + TRS -> Kiel
North Atlantic: 2 x SUB -> Brest
Arctic Ocean: FTR2 -> 20,53
East Med: FTR2 + NAV3 -> 75,40 (Sicily)
Italian Coast: FTR2 -> 73,37 (Sicily)

Vichy France:
-

Italy:
East Med: 2 x CA -> La Spezia
Italian Coast: BB + CA -> La Spezia
Norwegian Sea: 3 x SUB -> Hamburg

Japan:
China Sea: 2 x CA + TRS -> Fukuoka

Use Oil:

Germany:
All units, except 2 x BB + TRS + 2 x CP + ATR3, are reorganized for 2 oil (2.45). Use 1 oil in Berlin, and 1 in Budapest.

Italy:
All units are reorganized for 1 oil (1.3). Use 1 oil in Rome.

Japan:
NAV3 + TRS + CA (Maya) are reorganized for 0 oil (0.4).

Vichy France:
No reorganization needed.

Breakdown: -

Prod plan Final:
Germany - No changes needed - 30 BPs
Italy - No changes needed - 11 BPs
Japan - No changes should be needed - 16 BPs
Vichy France - No changes should be needed - 16 BPs

Scrap:
-

Production:
Germany (30):
MIL
GARR
INF
MOT
ART (4)
FTR3
NAV3
2 x Pilot
MECH

Italy (11):
HQI
FTR2
Pilot
2 x SUB (Repair)

Japan (16):
MIL
GARR
TRS (2nd)
SUB 4465 (2nd)
NAV3
CVP1
Pilot
CP

Vichy France (16 +3):
Save 4 BP in Lyons, 4 BP in Marseilles, 3 BP in Nice, 3 BP in Touloun, 3 BP in Toulouse, and 2 BP in Vichy.

Factory destruction: -

Reinforcements:

Germany:
FTR2 (FW 190A-2) -> K�nigsberg
FTR2 (FW 190A-1) -> Kiel
GARR -> K�nigsberg
2 x INF + MTN Div -> Kiel

Italy:
2 x NAV3 -> Genoa
CA -> La Spezia

Japan:
CVP1 (D3A1 - 4 range) -> CVL (Chiyoda) (being placed in Fukuoka)
CVL (Chiyoda) -> Fukuoka
BB -> Tokyo

Voluntary Resource Lending:
Modified; Germany -> Italy: 8 resources, (1 oil, minimum) + 2 BP

Axis goes first if we win the initiative. No re-roll.

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RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and ... - 4/21/2020 2:30:33 PM

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Did you get the CVP bug straightened out?

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RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and ... - 4/21/2020 8:06:50 PM

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I replayed the impulse and left the CV in port to avoid the bug. This is of course not ideal.

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RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and ... - 4/24/2020 7:04:36 PM

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Turn end Allies

Prelim prod
China 2 BPs + 1 BP saved last turn
CW 21 BPs (9 oils out of 11 in are UK burned for production) and saves 13 oils elsewhere (problems with traded BP and resources to USSR, solved (ignored) because CW is supposed throw away 2 BPs to compensate CPs created by bug)
Free France 0
US 21 BPs save 1 oil

Stay at sea and RTB

USSR
Both SUBs in Baltic returns to Leningrad.
FTR from Arctic Ocean lands near Archangel.

US
TRS -> Pago Pago with NAV2

CW
Only one BB stays in North Sea.
Escorts stay in seas.
TRS to Liverpool.
TRS to Cape Town.
TRS and INF to Singapore.

Free France
2x CA to port in Caribbean.

Oil use
CW reorg all for 4,8 oil.
FF reorg all for free.
US reorg CP, NAV2, TRS, 2 BB's for free.
USSR reorg all for 1 oil.

Breakdown
USSR breakdown 5-6 MECH into 1-5 MOTDIV and 2-6 MECHDIV.

Production

China 3
Save all 3 BPs.

CW 21
TRS (2nd)
3x CP (and discarding 2 BPs to compensate CPs created by bug)
BB (1st)
Sub (2nd)
INF div
2x Pilot
CVP1
FTR3

US 21
TRS (1st)
BB (2nd)
AMPH (2nd)
CP
2x Pilot
INF
NAV2
CVP1

USSR 26
2x Pilott
2X ftr2
CAV
INF
GAR
Save 11 BPs

Reinforcements

China
CAV to Chunking

CW
FTR2 London
2x CP Belfast
CP to Bombay

US
GAR Philadelphia
INF New York
BB Indiana San Diego
BB North Carolina Norfolk

USSR
GAR Gomel
INF Smolensk

Axis win initiative and goes first in fine weather everywhere.

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RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and ... - 4/26/2020 12:13:29 PM

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Nov/Dec '41
Impulse #1 (Axis)

No declarations of war.

Land: Germany, Japan
Combined:
Naval:
Air: Italy

No port strikes.

Germany fly one FTR2 to the North Sea 2-box (from Kiel).
Italy fly one NAV2 to the North Sea 2-box (from Bordeaux).

The Italian naval bombers begin searching for HMS Nelson. Will CW support the BB with any air? CW has 3 FTR2 that can reach up to the 1-box, and several bombers that can reach up to the 3-box (one on extended range).

Picture from Nov/Dec '41 Impulse #1 (Axis) - Naval Combat

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RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and ... - 4/26/2020 1:28:30 PM

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No planes thank you. They will arrive next impulse

If BB is aborted, to Plymouth.

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RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and ... - 4/26/2020 3:05:29 PM

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No combat in the North Sea. Both sides roll 5.

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RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and ... - 4/26/2020 3:35:01 PM

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The Japanese air force has been challenged to do something about the Chinese production.

So their Strategic Air Force begin operation Broken Keel by sending their elite squadrons to bomb Chungking.

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RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and ... - 4/26/2020 3:37:04 PM

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Picture from Nov/Dec '41 Impulse #1 (Axis) - Strategic Bombing

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RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and ... - 4/26/2020 3:44:55 PM

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And the elite bomber formation does not disappoint. Phase one of Broken Keel is a complete success.

Picture from Nov/Dec '41 Impulse #1 (Axis) - Strategic Bombing

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RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and ... - 4/26/2020 4:11:38 PM

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Nov/Dec '41
Impulse #1 (Axis)

Germany, and Italy, flies 6 bombers on three ground strike missions on the central front in Belarus, USSR. See picture.

The Soviet Union has two fighters available for interception.

Germany, and Italy, has 4 FTR2, and one FTR3, available for counter-interception?

Will USSR intercept any of the ground strikes?

Picture from Nov/Dec '41 Impulse #1 (Axis) - Ground Strike

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