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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/1/2020 9:32:56 PM   
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A few days have gone by. Japan building strength and moving forward in Manado, Luzon, Miri and Malaya.

The Chinese are emboldened attacking several places and getting pasted, with the exception where they routed some Chinese tax units in Hwainan.

But today off Tavoy, a scene of a large fighter buildup....scouts report some shipping and a squadron of Nells on standby sortie.

Examination of the debris shows an estimated 45 Allied fighters destroyed with the ship.






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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/1/2020 9:35:57 PM   
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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/1/2020 9:38:56 PM   
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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/1/2020 10:46:38 PM   
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December 16th, 1941

Out of the depths, the British stab at me totally by surprise. Kates' attempting revenge run into Sea Hurricanes and are shredded.

Carrier Division 3 risks annihilation.




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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/1/2020 10:53:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		No combat report on this damage to the troop transport Hakone Maru, I am guessing she was hit by a search plane....45 fires!

She will attempt to cruise into Morotai and disband to get away from the British strike planes hopefully....while the Carrier Division 3 is forced to make a flank speed run to Babeldaob.

Fires, enemy carriers, flooding, you name it almost only bad things can happen here.

This is a catastrophe of the highest order.

A little to the north of this disaster, two cruiser SAG are patrolling for the Thundering Herd, which I guess the Mavis did spot the previous day when they should have been looking for enemy carriers...

Good results and even better a Long Lance attack on the unsuspecting!:
Day Time Surface Combat, near Siargao at 85,91, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Nagara
DD Yamakaze, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Kawakaze
DD Umikaze
DD Suzukaze
DD Shiokaze

Allied Ships
xAP Poelau Bras, Shell hits 28, and is sunk
xAP Kota Tjandi, Shell hits 30, and is sunk
xAK Boero, Shell hits 24, and is sunk
xAK Langkoeas, Shell hits 10, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Somelsdijk, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Mariso, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAP Van Cloon, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Day Time Surface Combat, near Siargao at 86,90, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Nagara
DD Yamakaze
DD Kawakaze
DD Umikaze
DD Suzukaze
DD Shiokaze

Allied Ships
xAK Bellerophon, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Toendjoek, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Reduced visibility due to Rain
Maximum visibility in Rain: 15,000 yards
Range closes to 16,000 yards...
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 11,000 yards
Japanese launch Long Lance torpedoes at 11,000 yards before allies detect Japanese presence
CL Nagara launches Long Lance Torpedoes at xAK Toendjoek at 11,000 yards
DD Shiokaze fires at xAK Toendjoek at 11,000 yards
xAK Toendjoek sunk by DD Suzukaze at 11,000 yards








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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/1/2020 10:56:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hurricanes take some damage here from the old girls.

Night Naval bombardment of Kwangchowan at 73,60

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
Vildebeest III: 10 damaged
Vildebeest III: 2 destroyed on ground
Vengeance I: 3 damaged
Vengeance I: 1 destroyed on ground
Hurricane IIb Trop: 5 damaged
Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed on ground

Japanese Ships
BB Hyuga
BB Ise
BB Fuso
BB Nagato

Manpower hits 4
Fires 4641
Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 16
Port hits 6
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 1

BB Hyuga firing at Kwangchowan
BB Ise firing at Kwangchowan
BB Fuso firing at Kwangchowan
F1M2 Pete acting as spotter for BB Nagato
BB Nagato firing at Kwangchowan

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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/1/2020 10:58:50 PM   
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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/2/2020 12:27:42 AM   
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No combat report on this damage to the troop transport Hakone Maru, I am guessing she was hit by a search plane....45 fires!

She will attempt to cruise into Morotai and disband to get away from the British strike planes hopefully....while the Carrier Division 3 is forced to make a flank speed run to Babeldaob.


Dorniers. Check the op's report … anything without CAP is at risk from those buggers …

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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/2/2020 12:31:36 AM   
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Just saying that methodical and focused is needed here. You have to carefully pick your targets, very carefully, and then go in hard and heavy. The mop up will take FAR longer than normal. You cannot expect to take things free, and you need to get your targets before your amphib bonus is lost. In stock, that is easy, but this ain't Kansas no more.



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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/2/2020 1:12:18 PM   
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Stage 1 in the Manado invasion is successful. Carrier Division 3 is safe in Port, or relatively safe as there are B17 raids every few days.

CVL Ryujo has 12 sys, 17 flood and 30 engine damage. Bad, but it could have been so much worse. Meanwhile 5th Carrier Division is just off Truk, and will support either Rabaul/ Northern New Guinea push or Manado push as needed. I suspect Manado will fall in a few days time barring Allied intervention.

I need to scrounge around and get some naval attack planes there next.






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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/2/2020 1:16:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Iboats off Pearl were hoping at getting a shot at some damaged battleships, no joy for that goal --but of the six engagements here two do damage. The Iboats will be called back for perimeter scouting missions shortly. The midget carriers are all back at Kwaj already.

A Dutch sub sinks a merchant ship of Soc Trang.




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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/2/2020 1:21:52 PM   
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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/2/2020 1:32:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Once again, I don't know where I am going to find the fighters to protect Miri...plus bombers to make it into a threat.

Japan desperately needs more dive bomber squadrons...

The British are seemingly evacuating some key bases...






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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/2/2020 1:35:34 PM   
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No combat report on this damage to the troop transport Hakone Maru, I am guessing she was hit by a search plane....45 fires!

She will attempt to cruise into Morotai and disband to get away from the British strike planes hopefully....while the Carrier Division 3 is forced to make a flank speed run to Babeldaob.


Dorniers. Check the op's report … anything without CAP is at risk from those buggers …


As expected:

xAP Hakone Maru has spotted an Allied Aircraft at 81,99
xAP Hakone Maru is reported HIT


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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/2/2020 1:38:24 PM   
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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/2/2020 1:39:48 PM   
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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/2/2020 1:44:08 PM   
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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/2/2020 1:49:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		No tracker for me in this game, so get used to looking at the industry screen.

10 days into the war and the economy is thriving...

Maizuru is increasing their naval dock to 50...

Nate production is shutdown...

Merchant and Naval shipyards are building everything. I am thinking about expanding the capacity here and can probably afford to shutdown a small number of merchant shipyards without effecting production.

Vehicles are expanding.




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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/2/2020 2:05:10 PM   
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Brutal air war.




Not bad losses actually.

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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/2/2020 2:05:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		Japanese Naval bombers are doing good work. The typical setting is Naval Attack with 10 to 30 percent search or set to naval search 30-50.

I plan to be running Betties and Nells...until and if we get to the Frances in numbers.

Rotating strike and search groups with rest groups.




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Status: offline 		Naval strike squadrons, pitiful. Yokosuka KuK-2 needs to be bought out and sent to the SRA somewhere. But you cannot buy them out as they are restricted...you can however transfer them to a CV and free them up that way. Not sure I will do that, as I am not sure the AI does it.






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No tracker for me in this game, so get used to looking at the industry screen.

10 days into the war and the economy is thriving...

Maizuru is increasing their naval dock to 50...

Nate production is shutdown...

Merchant and Naval shipyards are building everything. I am thinking about expanding the capacity here and can probably afford to shutdown a small number of merchant shipyards without effecting production.

Vehicles are expanding.



Well, you are several levels better player than I am, I don't need to build any MERCH build at all for the game. I doubt you do either.

So, yes, stopping MERCH build helps a lot to conserve HI. Expanding NAV? Maybe. But long term you will need to watch both ARM and VEH carefully. Managing supply is even more crucial than PBEM because you're fighting a MUCH bigger adversary. Of course you can win tactically, but if you run out of supply, strategically you just lost.

Last tidbit: watch your encircled enemy. The AI isn't too "smart", it will do things a PBEM player never would (except for Nemo).

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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/2/2020 2:26:41 PM   
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Naval strike squadrons, pitiful. Yokosuka KuK-2 needs to be bought out and sent to the SRA somewhere. But you cannot buy them out as they are restricted...you can however transfer them to a CV and free them up that way. Not sure I will do that, as I am not sure the AI does it.


To the best of my knowledge, the AI doesn't have any restrictions. It can load/move units irrespective of any restriction. Hopefully Alfred can confirm/correct this …

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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/2/2020 2:58:32 PM   
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Naval strike squadrons, pitiful. Yokosuka KuK-2 needs to be bought out and sent to the SRA somewhere. But you cannot buy them out as they are restricted...you can however transfer them to a CV and free them up that way. Not sure I will do that, as I am not sure the AI does it.


To the best of my knowledge, the AI doesn't have any restrictions. It can load/move units irrespective of any restriction. Hopefully Alfred can confirm/correct this …


The AI doesn't move onto CVs terrestrial squadrons. Thus it never engages in the human player cheat of resizing units which historically never either operated from carriers or resized on a carrier to then move back to terrestrial operations.

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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/2/2020 3:16:19 PM   
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Naval strike squadrons, pitiful. Yokosuka KuK-2 needs to be bought out and sent to the SRA somewhere. But you cannot buy them out as they are restricted...you can however transfer them to a CV and free them up that way. Not sure I will do that, as I am not sure the AI does it.


To the best of my knowledge, the AI doesn't have any restrictions. It can load/move units irrespective of any restriction. Hopefully Alfred can confirm/correct this …


The AI doesn't move onto CVs terrestrial squadrons. Thus it never engages in the human player cheat of resizing units which historically never either operated from carriers or resized on a carrier to then move back to terrestrial operations.

Alfred


Thanks Alfred and Pax, I am not going to do it. I never liked resizing squadrons to begin with. Or for that matter freeing up squadrons from restricted status by moving them onto a CV and off again.

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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/2/2020 3:43:07 PM   
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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/3/2020 2:34:08 AM   
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But I am pretty sure that the AI can load restricted LCU's and move restricted air groups as it needs.


The AI responds to the orders given to it by the scenario designer via the script. The AI looks at the unit specified slot number, not at the unit HQ attachment. Hence, irrespective of HQ attachment, specified units are sea lifted as called for by the script.

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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/3/2020 2:26:17 PM   
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War keeps moving along, with Japan furiously straining to ship troops forward...

Not Task Force Z, perhaps Task Force A for Archimedes whatever that ship is.

Sub attack near Kuantan at 51,79

Japanese Ships
SS I-164

Allied Ships
CB Archimedes
CA Effingham
CL Durban
DD Maratha
DD Endeh

SS I-164 launches 3 torpedoes at CB Archimedes
DD Endeh fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Endeh fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Sub attack near Kuantan at 51,79

Japanese Ships
SS I-162, hits 3

Allied Ships
CB Archimedes
CA Effingham
CL Durban
DD Maratha
DD Djampea
DD Endeh

SS I-162 launches 4 torpedoes at CB Archimedes




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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/3/2020 2:28:10 PM   
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ASW attack near Taihoku at 89,62

Japanese Ships
DD Akikaze, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
xAP Buenos Aires Maru
xAKL Sakae Maru
PB Kinsyo Maru #2

Allied Ships
SS Searaven

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