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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/5/2020 4:28:51 PM   
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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/5/2020 5:26:48 PM   
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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/5/2020 6:00:14 PM   
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Miri taken, but all the oil factories are destroyed. 300,000 supply needed there...

Archimedes or Task Force Z hanging out at Kuantan.




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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/5/2020 6:01:54 PM   
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Miri taken, but all the oil factories are destroyed. 300,000 supply needed there...




Better hope that doesn't become a trend.


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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/5/2020 6:03:25 PM   
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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/5/2020 6:04:55 PM   
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Miri taken, but all the oil factories are destroyed. 300,000 supply needed there...




Better hope that doesn't become a trend.



My guess is it will be, as I bet Andy beefed up the engineers at all the bases. Miri certainly was heavily defended compared to stock game.

Perhaps rng will smile on me a little bit. Hong Kong fell without a point of damage...but it seemed to not have a larger garrison either.


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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/5/2020 11:32:28 PM   
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December 24, 1941

Miri taken, but all the oil factories are destroyed. 300,000 supply needed there...


Crap!!!

That's sad news indeed. …



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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/5/2020 11:40:38 PM   
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so if the enemy have engineers there is a chance to get industry destroyed; and more engineers, more chances?

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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/5/2020 11:43:49 PM   
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I feel that my advance is horrendously slow, at least very slow compared to a pbem game.

We try to catch Archimedes or Task Force Z at Kuantan, but they have left and are now adjacent to Singers and their 115 fighters.

We catch elements of the thundering herd head east...a surprising direction but easily spotted.

Battleship Division 1 is on approach to Manado, and they shrug off six bomb hits from strafing Beaufighters.

Day Time Surface Combat, near Babeldaob at 93,86, Range 13,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Haguro, Shell hits 1
DD Kuroshio
DD Oyashio

Allied Ships
xAP President Madison, Shell hits 16, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Doryssa, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAP Kota Gede, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Kota Radja, Shell hits 11, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAP Kota Pinang, Shell hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Modjekerto, Shell hits 20, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Sloterdijk, Shell hits 7, heavy fires
xAP Van Overstraten, Shell hits 18, heavy fires, heavy damage


Day Time Surface Combat, near Babeldaob at 93,86, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Haguro
DD Kuroshio
DD Oyashio

Allied Ships
xAP President Madison, Shell hits 9, and is sunk
xAP Kota Gede, Shell hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Kota Pinang, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Modjekerto, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
xAK Sloterdijk, Shell hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Van Overstraten, Shell hits 11, and is sunk

Reduced visibility due to Rain
Maximum visibility in Rain: 15,000 yards




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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/5/2020 11:44:53 PM   
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It is engineers + random; right?

so if the enemy have engineers there is a chance to get industry destroyed; and more engineers, more chances?


That is the theory. A lot of times it seems mostly random, or at least I remember those more clearly.

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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/6/2020 12:17:36 AM   
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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/6/2020 7:46:14 AM   
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Can you post a screenie of the Archimedes from the database (or your best guess as to what class it is)? That has me curious.

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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/6/2020 12:15:03 PM   
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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/6/2020 12:35:03 PM   
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Luzon: Getting shipping into and out of Luzon is dangerous with all the American Air power still there. Trying to get rid of the Warhawks, but it is tough going.

Alor Star taken...this might speed up the conquest of Malaya.

Allied adjusted defense: 87

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Alor Star !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(-), preparation(-), morale(-)
experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
283 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 22 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled

Allied ground losses:
6383 casualties reported
Squads: 170 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 292 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 33 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 111 (111 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 25 (25 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 2

Assaulting units:
11th Infantry Regiment
5th Engineer Regiment
41st Infantry Regiment
5th Recon Regiment
1st Tank Regiment
91st Naval Guard Unit
25th Army
5th Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
3rd SSVF Brigade
109th RAF Base Force




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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/6/2020 12:43:27 PM   
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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/6/2020 12:54:14 PM   
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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/6/2020 1:00:03 PM   
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I don't want to lose Kagero class destroyers.

ASW attack near Groot Natoena at 58,79

Japanese Ships
DD Hamakaze, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
BB Kongo
DD Akigumo
DD Arashio
DD Asashio
DD Tanikaze

Allied Ships
SS Thor

SS Thor launches 6 torpedoes at DD Hamakaze
Thor bottoming out ....
DD Arashio fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Asashio fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tanikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Asashio fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Tanikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tanikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tanikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tanikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Groot Natoena at 58,79

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna
DD Ushio
DD Sazanami
DD Hibiki

Allied Ships
SS Thor, hits 4

SS Thor is sighted by escort
DD Ushio fails to find sub and abandons search

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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/6/2020 1:04:22 PM   
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This is the only other non Alaska class CB in the database:

Archimedes





what is this "40" capacity? planes/ float planes?

is this why it is a "flight cruiser"

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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/6/2020 1:07:49 PM   
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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/6/2020 1:10:28 PM   
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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/6/2020 1:19:07 PM   
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This is the only other non Alaska class CB in the database:

Archimedes





what is this "40" capacity? planes/ float planes?

is this why it is a "flight cruiser"



Flight Cruiser is the name Andy gave to his creation. I am going to assume, from the spy pictures that they carry float fighters and float dive bombers or other float naval strike creations.

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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/6/2020 1:19:10 PM   
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Your posts in this AAR read like a very strong echo of your obvert AAR posts.  Are you certain you're not recycling those old posts via cut and paste?

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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/6/2020 1:20:28 PM   
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Lowpe,

Your posts in this AAR read like a very strong echo of your obvert AAR posts.  Are you certain you're not recycling those old posts via cut and paste?

Alfred


Did I ever play Obvert? I don't think so...

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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/6/2020 2:26:39 PM   
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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/6/2020 3:24:29 PM   
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brace for "Hurri-floats" and "Swordfish-float"


Prescient.

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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/6/2020 3:24:51 PM   
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Kuantan at 51,79

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 66 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 26
Ki-27b Nate x 23

Allied aircraft
Sea Gladiator 2F x 30

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 10 destroyed, 3 damaged
G3M2 Nell: 1 destroyed by flak
Ki-27b Nate: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
BB Prince of Wales
CL Dragon

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x G3M2 Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo




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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/6/2020 3:28:02 PM   
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Nells pay a heavy price the attack on Task Force Z. That squadron is combat ineffective now, and will fly back to Formosa for rebuilding and new pilots.




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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/6/2020 3:51:05 PM   
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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 5/6/2020 7:12:37 PM   
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I bet you will see them a lot in places with low infrastructure (level 0/ 1 airbases)


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