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OT: Board game Pacific War - Struggle Against Japan 194... - 5/30/2020 1:57:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've owned WitP:AE for a decade and have played only against the AI only because of limited time.

I'm thinking of getting Pacific War- Struggle Against Japan 1941 - 1945 for..., well no reason. I wondering if anyone here owns the game and their impressions.

Cheeks

Edit: Jeezzz, sorry - I just saw where I missed labled the subject title. It should read Pacific War.

I'm also a "counter-moving guy". I hope there is a decent VASSAL module for it.

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RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Agains... - 5/30/2020 2:03:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Cheeks

I've owned WitP:AE for a decade and have played only against the AI only because of limited time.

I'm thinking of getting War In The Pacific - Struggle Against Japan 1941 - 1945 for..., well no reason. I wondering if anyone here owns the game and their impressions.

Cheeks


I use to have it. It was destroyed during a move to Massachusetts. It was great fun. Big game, lots of fun....GP

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RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Agains... - 5/30/2020 2:04:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have it, but I have never played it...
problem with wargames is it is hard to find enough players, unless you go online, but then what is the point or a boardgame?

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RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Agains... - 5/30/2020 2:08:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have it. It's been in my closet for about 25-30 years. The most I ever did was read a few pages of rule and admire the counters and map. It's a lovely looking game, but too cumbersome to play. I doubt it would be nearly as much fun as playing AE against a live opponent.

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RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Agains... - 5/30/2020 2:35:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have a stack of 'big-board" games. Everyone has different feelings about different designers and their work I guess. Like many, I read and gaze more than playthrough.

Pacific War, I don't have it, but it's on my wish list.

Empire of the Sun, have it. It's actually playable and we did run it. I enjoyed it.

War in the Pacific, have it. The ultimate hanger queen. I'm pretty sure it's unplayable. I've never totally set it out.

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RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Agains... - 5/30/2020 2:36:25 AM   
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RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Agains... - 5/30/2020 2:40:14 AM   
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RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Agains... - 5/30/2020 2:40:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		I tried setting it up once. Overnight Catzilla moved in on Tokyo. Haven't tried to play it since. It's my understanding that it was a fantastic design for the time.




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RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Agains... - 5/30/2020 3:08:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		If you're curious this is how to read the information on the counters for the game. It came with a lot of charts and tables. If any board game came close to the intricate detail of Witp AE this was it. It even covered float planes on warships.




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RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Agains... - 5/30/2020 3:41:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		Had it and played it maybe two dozen times and liked it a lot.
Need space to keep it set up though since it'll take a while to do most of the campaign games.
Different flavors also, Malaya Campaign with a lot of ground units and other scenarios that are mostly naval.
Sadly it was destroyed in a basement flood when some idiot closed a valve in the sewer system during heavy rains.
Could have been worse, neighbor two houses down had six feet of water in his basement only 18 inches in mine but
bottom shelf misery.
Definitely not the game to set up if you have a cat, those counter stacks are very enticing to them.
SWAT! purrrrrrrrr.

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RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Agains... - 5/30/2020 4:31:28 AM   
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RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Agains... - 5/30/2020 8:36:26 AM   
Reg


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ORIGINAL: Malevolence

Pacific War, I don't have it, but it's on my wish list.


Then you'll be glad to know GMT Games have launched a P500 reprint....


Edit: I read that an improved Vassal module was part of the package.




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RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Agains... - 5/30/2020 10:17:42 AM   
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I have it.

Very intense. You will need some large tables to set it up on.

I bought several large sheets of plexiglass to cover over, flatten and protect
The paper maps and charts.

Interesting game design. It is worth having for a Pacific war fan.

I’ve not set it up in years because I have a cat that lives with us named
Commodore Beauregard Perry who loves to wreck puzzles and board games.


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RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Agains... - 5/30/2020 1:51:52 PM   
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What I would suggest is Vassel however I cannot confirm if it is listed as one of the thousands of games available just to save yourself a lotta cash, also you require a secure space to play the monster.
Have several monster games on Vassel, all free but again never played anyone of them.


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RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Agains... - 5/30/2020 2:47:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Looks like there is a Vassal module for it.



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RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Agains... - 5/30/2020 9:17:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here is a picture of CoachZuck and I about to start a game many years ago. We started a few times, but never finished.

I remember when I was in High School, my mother was going into NYC for the day and I asked her to go to SPI and buy the game for me. She said that when she asked for it, they told her that it was a very complicated game and she replied that her son is very smart. Not sure who was right in this case...




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RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Agains... - 5/30/2020 10:11:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think 2 different board games are being discussed here :-) SPI's War in the Pacific and Victory Games Pacific War - both great games that I played a lot of solitaire due to lack of rural opponents

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RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Agains... - 5/30/2020 10:55:51 PM   
Reg


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Check out this image from BGG on a SPI WITP boardgame set up...

If we all could only have such a control centre.

https://boardgamegeek.com/image/4051798/war-pacific-second-edition


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RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Agains... - 5/30/2020 11:04:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		I played it once with a human and we had it set up in an unused dorm room at the University of Aberdeen in Scotland for 13 months and we played until September 1942 during that time. We had to dismantle it as we moved on but before we did we wrote out where each piece was located on the board as we were sure we would pick the game up again at some point. That was in 1989, it has yet to be set back up (it currently resides in a box in a shed). My old opponent is still alive living in Finland somewhere.... such is the movement of time.

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RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Agains... - 5/30/2020 11:24:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MBF

I think 2 different board games are being discussed here :-) SPI's War in the Pacific and Victory Games Pacific War - both great games that I played a lot of solitaire due to lack of rural opponents


Yeah, we are certainly discussing two monster games at once here. I think the OP edited his post to indicate he meant the title on the left.






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RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Agains... - 5/30/2020 11:36:36 PM   
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RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Agains... - 5/30/2020 11:40:53 PM   
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RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Agains... - 5/30/2020 11:59:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've got(had) both, plus The Eagle & The Sun!!!!

How stupid!!

Played Pacific War a fair bit, never to completion but the first 12ish months a few times.

WITP was a bit harder, played a bit but never had enough space long term. I'm sure the game is now landfill in Perth.

As for Eagle & the Sun, what potential, what a disaster.

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RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Agains... - 5/31/2020 12:07:52 AM   
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I tried setting it up once. Overnight Catzilla moved in on Tokyo. Haven't tried to play it since. It's my understanding that it was a fantastic design for the time.




Operations and the shorter campaigns were very playable. The complete war campaign game was not as easy... the rules lacked on that point.

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RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Agains... - 5/31/2020 12:10:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MBF

I think 2 different board games are being discussed here :-) SPI's War in the Pacific and Victory Games Pacific War - both great games that I played a lot of solitaire due to lack of rural opponents


Yeah, we are certainly discussing two monster games at once here. I think the OP edited his post to indicate he meant the title on the left.






The second edition of War in the Pacific was released a few years ago. I played the first edition a bit because a friend had both the space and the plywood sheets (it IS a monster).

Nowadays I would go for Empire of the Sun. Much more manageable.

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RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Agains... - 5/31/2020 2:26:38 PM   
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I had both ....GP

Still have my copy of the SPI game.

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RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Agains... - 5/31/2020 4:17:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		OK Now I understand. I had the SPI game mounted it on the wall with sheet metal and magnetized 3200 pieces! The two sided counters of the Victory at Sea confused me. I tried to play several times before I learned to program.. Gave up! Too much paperwork!

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RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Agains... - 6/1/2020 12:03:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		I still have them all; Both versions of War in the Pacific, Pacific War, Carriers,Flattop, Dauntless,Rising Sun, Eastern Fleet & Strike South to name a few! All classics to be sure. And I've owned just about every computer game covering the same topic. Starting with Grigsby's Carrier Strike that first came out for the Apple 2E!!! Yeah I'm that old and too darn lazy to set up 1000's of counters today.

That's why I'm looking forward to the soon to be released in June, "Carrier Battles" by Avalon Digital. It is the Desktop conversion from their IOS game Carrier Battles for Guadalcanal. It has captured the classic Pacific War Carrier Boardgames (like those I mentioned above)but for the computer. Amazing in terms of the tension and realism in WWII carrier battles. There's a couple of first looks over on YouTube. With this game coming out I think it's time for me to think about selling my classic boardgames.

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RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Agains... - 6/1/2020 12:49:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		I still have the SPI and VG games, both. Wrapped away probably forever. Never played Pacific War, although it looked like it had a lot to offer. I played SPIs War in the Pacific, once into June as IJ (time moved on, could not continue). Once as Allies through to the end. That one took a one car garage and about 2-1/2 years. My brother landed upon an India-conquest strategy that almost won the game by shortening the war. Shortening to the point where I never would've got to nukes. He ended up conceding, I was afraid he would commit hara-kiri. I had to bludgeon for all I was worth.

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RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Agains... - 6/1/2020 1:21:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		The one boardgame I kept from my Arizona storage area and shipped to Korea was the one on the left in Shellshock's photo. Sadly, I opened it up at my apartment and there were no unit counters. The box did contain a lot of plain black counters with white numbers, which my daughter has had great fun with.

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